it's probably geographical. a lot of the hubs for it in europe are places like rotterdam, very blue-collar ex-industrial areas. people pile into these giant like stadium-sized concrete arenas. the music gets incredibly fast. like there's no sex or feeling in it. just 190bpm 'terror core' or whatever they call it. it sounds like a panic attack, to me.SuperJail Warden wrote:
It's funny that that sort of music I guess has a Nazi element to it in Europe? American Nazis are deep into metal and punk. The music I linked is 100% associated with millennial and Gen Z urban culture.uziq wrote:
that's more like the music i associate with the low countries. speed heads and truck drivers and people in tracksuits. it's why i laughed when larssen made out he had some sort of high-pedigree taste because he's 'spent time in the netherlands and belgium'. the most popular forms of electronic music there are like gabber techno and hardcore, full of skinheads slowly chewing off their own faces.
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A long and storied tradition:uziq wrote:
it's probably geographical. a lot of the hubs for it in europe are places like rotterdam, very blue-collar ex-industrial areas. people pile into these giant like stadium-sized concrete arenas. the music gets incredibly fast. like there's no sex or feeling in it. just 190bpm 'terror core' or whatever they call it. it sounds like a panic attack, to me.SuperJail Warden wrote:
It's funny that that sort of music I guess has a Nazi element to it in Europe? American Nazis are deep into metal and punk. The music I linked is 100% associated with millennial and Gen Z urban culture.uziq wrote:
that's more like the music i associate with the low countries. speed heads and truck drivers and people in tracksuits. it's why i laughed when larssen made out he had some sort of high-pedigree taste because he's 'spent time in the netherlands and belgium'. the most popular forms of electronic music there are like gabber techno and hardcore, full of skinheads slowly chewing off their own faces.
places like amsterdam have very good scenes, very international, great clubs, great radio stations, great local record stores/labels. but it's very much a minority affair. i doubt larssen has even heard of rush hour *snorts*
in general the dutch are pretty much white trash. note why larssen keeps trying to emphasise that his second great-aunt twice removed was born in jutland when it belonged to germany, or whatever. they all know they are truckdrivers and stevedores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w58BPcLeGt4
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That doesn't look too bad when you consider Americans were setting their concerts on fire around the same time.Pochsy wrote:
A long and storied tradition:uziq wrote:
it's probably geographical. a lot of the hubs for it in europe are places like rotterdam, very blue-collar ex-industrial areas. people pile into these giant like stadium-sized concrete arenas. the music gets incredibly fast. like there's no sex or feeling in it. just 190bpm 'terror core' or whatever they call it. it sounds like a panic attack, to me.SuperJail Warden wrote:
It's funny that that sort of music I guess has a Nazi element to it in Europe? American Nazis are deep into metal and punk. The music I linked is 100% associated with millennial and Gen Z urban culture.
places like amsterdam have very good scenes, very international, great clubs, great radio stations, great local record stores/labels. but it's very much a minority affair. i doubt larssen has even heard of rush hour *snorts*
in general the dutch are pretty much white trash. note why larssen keeps trying to emphasise that his second great-aunt twice removed was born in jutland when it belonged to germany, or whatever. they all know they are truckdrivers and stevedores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w58BPcLeGt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZclaXQWVRCg
EDIT - Check out the dude at 3:40. He's grinding so hard his spine is damaged.
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yes but it was also the death of a very popular trend. rock music was mainstream again after that. and it stayed that way until ... well, EDM, basically. so jay was still definitely on the wave. there's a reason why everyone in his high-school listened to dropkick murphys instead of detroit radio.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Disco Sucks was an late 70's and 80's thing. Jay was still in high school around in '99. Disco was already extinct by then.
SHE usually brings treats, pastries, etc. Lots of phyllo dough and sugar. They are really fucking good.SuperJail Warden wrote:
What does he bring you? I adore Arabic food.
I was there, and I was at one the first bonfires. We started with the mountains of pizza box trash and then tore down the plywood around the sound stages and started fire jumping. Was fun!SuperJail Warden wrote:
That doesn't look too bad when you consider Americans were setting their concerts on fire around the same time.Pochsy wrote:
A long and storied tradition:uziq wrote:
it's probably geographical. a lot of the hubs for it in europe are places like rotterdam, very blue-collar ex-industrial areas. people pile into these giant like stadium-sized concrete arenas. the music gets incredibly fast. like there's no sex or feeling in it. just 190bpm 'terror core' or whatever they call it. it sounds like a panic attack, to me.
places like amsterdam have very good scenes, very international, great clubs, great radio stations, great local record stores/labels. but it's very much a minority affair. i doubt larssen has even heard of rush hour *snorts*
in general the dutch are pretty much white trash. note why larssen keeps trying to emphasise that his second great-aunt twice removed was born in jutland when it belonged to germany, or whatever. they all know they are truckdrivers and stevedores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w58BPcLeGt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZclaXQWVRCg
EDIT - Check out the dude at 3:40. He's grinding so hard his spine is damaged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Uhr5r6sUM
uziq wrote:
we never had a 'disco sucks' thing in europe. the whole burning records on a baseball field thing. jay is very much of that lineage of blue-collar sports fan who thinks music with funk and dancing is 'gay'.
american society really is uniquely insecure about masculinity, isn't it?
Why did you destroy all of that property?Jay wrote:
I was there, and I was at one the first bonfires. We started with the mountains of pizza box trash and then tore down the plywood around the sound stages and started fire jumping. Was fun!SuperJail Warden wrote:
That doesn't look too bad when you consider Americans were setting their concerts on fire around the same time.Pochsy wrote:
A long and storied tradition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZclaXQWVRCg
EDIT - Check out the dude at 3:40. He's grinding so hard his spine is damaged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Uhr5r6sUM
No, limp bizkit was long gone. Red Hot Chili Peppers were on stage at the time.Pochsy wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwBjhgC139I
Here's the single performance that is credited with really inciting the riot. I always thought of it as blue collar aggression, and not some grander appeal to the quiddity of manliness.
Oh man, there was a lot of anger built up over 3 days. It was scorching hot, into the high 90s on a hot ass airfield, and water was $5/bottle. Pizza was like $15 for a 10 inch personal pie. Just relentlessly hot, relentlessly overpriced, the porta potties were all overflowing. The music was awesome, but the overwhelming feeling is that we were all being turned over and having every penny shook from our pockets by the promoters. I left when people started looting and robbing ATMs and stuff though.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Why did you destroy all of that property?Jay wrote:
I was there, and I was at one the first bonfires. We started with the mountains of pizza box trash and then tore down the plywood around the sound stages and started fire jumping. Was fun!SuperJail Warden wrote:
That doesn't look too bad when you consider Americans were setting their concerts on fire around the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Uhr5r6sUM
How do you feel about the anti-police riots taking place right now?Jay wrote:
Oh man, there was a lot of anger built up over 3 days. It was scorching hot, into the high 90s on a hot ass airfield, and water was $5/bottle. Pizza was like $15 for a 10 inch personal pie. Just relentlessly hot, relentlessly overpriced, the porta potties were all overflowing. The music was awesome, but the overwhelming feeling is that we were all being turned over and having every penny shook from our pockets by the promoters. I left when people started looting and robbing ATMs and stuff though.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Why did you destroy all of that property?Jay wrote:
I was there, and I was at one the first bonfires. We started with the mountains of pizza box trash and then tore down the plywood around the sound stages and started fire jumping. Was fun!
I think they have some serious grievances that need to be addressed. It doesn't mean pulling back from the community, which is what cops always threaten to do whenever they get their peepee slapped, but it does mean retraining and getting rid of the racist bullies. Our police forces as a whole need to stop with the us vs them mentality they've built up and start being members of the community again. One way is to return to elected sheriffs. They seem to do a better job balancing public relations with enforcement than appointed cops do.SuperJail Warden wrote:
How do you feel about the anti-police riots taking place right now?Jay wrote:
Oh man, there was a lot of anger built up over 3 days. It was scorching hot, into the high 90s on a hot ass airfield, and water was $5/bottle. Pizza was like $15 for a 10 inch personal pie. Just relentlessly hot, relentlessly overpriced, the porta potties were all overflowing. The music was awesome, but the overwhelming feeling is that we were all being turned over and having every penny shook from our pockets by the promoters. I left when people started looting and robbing ATMs and stuff though.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Why did you destroy all of that property?
Thank you for your responses. That's all the information I need. You will be contacted by detectives Dilbert and Uzique shortly.Jay wrote:
I think they have some serious grievances that need to be addressed. It doesn't mean pulling back from the community, which is what cops always threaten to do whenever they get their peepee slapped, but it does mean retraining and getting rid of the racist bullies. Our police forces as a whole need to stop with the us vs them mentality they've built up and start being members of the community again. One way is to return to elected sheriffs. They seem to do a better job balancing public relations with enforcement than appointed cops do.SuperJail Warden wrote:
How do you feel about the anti-police riots taking place right now?Jay wrote:
Oh man, there was a lot of anger built up over 3 days. It was scorching hot, into the high 90s on a hot ass airfield, and water was $5/bottle. Pizza was like $15 for a 10 inch personal pie. Just relentlessly hot, relentlessly overpriced, the porta potties were all overflowing. The music was awesome, but the overwhelming feeling is that we were all being turned over and having every penny shook from our pockets by the promoters. I left when people started looting and robbing ATMs and stuff though.
