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Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

You should be happy having given patriotic service to your country, Jay. Pay Uncle Sam back.
Sure, and you should stop paying your employees and see if they'll come into work out of love for you.
Newbie's workers would. He is the Joe Exotic of transitioning male adults to female puppies.
I bet he offers them expired meat too!
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Jay wrote:

Did you, or would you, offer up 4 1/2 years of your adult life to your country?
You signed up for free college, you're not an idealist. Where's that scribd essay you did.
I worked for that money, it wasn't handed to me because I had a pulse.
Erm yes it was.
Epstein didn't kill himself
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


Dude, just stop. The GI Bill isn't welfare. Did you, or would you, offer up 4 1/2 years of your adult life to your country? Don't pretend you would. I worked for that money, it wasn't handed to me because I had a pulse.
You know many other countries, including America's biggest military rivals, don't pay for the college education of their soldiers? You know that soldiers benefits like the ones you received are a luxury fought for and passed by the democrats? Will you at least acknowledge that you owe Presidents Wilson and Roosevelt a debt for starting the thing that turned your entire life around?
I'll thank the American Legion for lobbying for it and the bipartisan effort that led to its passing. I'm not going to give FDR credit for shit.
The Congress that passed the GI bill was a Democrat Congress. It was the New Deal congress that took over after Republicans crashed the economy and gassed veterans looking to cash in the last Democrat GI Bill. This is a basic political fact that I guess you will never acknowledge because it shoots to shit a lot of what Republicans say about Democrats.
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

You know many other countries, including America's biggest military rivals, don't pay for the college education of their soldiers? You know that soldiers benefits like the ones you received are a luxury fought for and passed by the democrats? Will you at least acknowledge that you owe Presidents Wilson and Roosevelt a debt for starting the thing that turned your entire life around?
I'll thank the American Legion for lobbying for it and the bipartisan effort that led to its passing. I'm not going to give FDR credit for shit.
The Congress that passed the GI bill was a Democrat Congress. It was the New Deal congress that took over after Republicans crashed the economy and gassed veterans looking to cash in the last Democrat GI Bill. This is a basic political fact that I guess you will never acknowledge because it shoots to shit a lot of what Republicans say about Democrats.
The Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944, commonly known as the G.I. Bill, was a law that provided a range of benefits for returning World War II veterans (commonly referred to as G.I.s). The original G.I. Bill expired in 1956, but the term "G.I. Bill" is still used to refer to programs created to assist U.S. military veterans.

It was largely designed and passed through Congress in 1944 in a bipartisan effort led by the American Legion who wanted to reward practically all wartime veterans. Since the First World War the Legion had been in the forefront of lobbying Congress for generous benefits for war veterans.[1] Roosevelt, by contrast, wanted a much smaller program focused on poor people regardless of military service.[2] The final bill provided immediate financial rewards for practically all World War II veterans, thereby avoiding the highly disputed postponed life insurance policy payout for World War I veterans that had caused political turmoil in the 1920s and 1930s.[3] Benefits included low-cost mortgages, low-interest loans to start a business or farm, one year of unemployment compensation, and dedicated payments of tuition and living expenses to attend high school, college, or vocational school. These benefits were available to all veterans who had been on active duty during the war years for at least 90 days and had not been dishonorably discharged.[4]

By 1956, 7.8 million veterans had used the G.I. Bill education benefits, some 2.2 million to attend colleges or universities and an additional 5.6 million for some kind of training program.[5] Historians and economists judge the G.I. Bill a major political and economic success—especially in contrast to the treatments of World War I veterans—and a major contribution to U.S. stock of human capital that encouraged long-term economic growth.[6][7][8] However, the G.I. Bill received criticism for directing some funds to for-profit educational institutions and for failing to benefit African Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Bill

Last edited by Jay (2020-04-09 17:53:42)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
unnamednewbie13
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Jay wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

You should be happy having given patriotic service to your country, Jay. Pay Uncle Sam back.
Sure, and you should stop paying your employees and see if they'll come into work out of love for you.
#whoosh, read a few posts back.

Just toeing Coolidge and Hoover.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


I'll thank the American Legion for lobbying for it and the bipartisan effort that led to its passing. I'm not going to give FDR credit for shit.
The Congress that passed the GI bill was a Democrat Congress. It was the New Deal congress that took over after Republicans crashed the economy and gassed veterans looking to cash in the last Democrat GI Bill. This is a basic political fact that I guess you will never acknowledge because it shoots to shit a lot of what Republicans say about Democrats.
The Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944, commonly known as the G.I. Bill, was a law that provided a range of benefits for returning World War II veterans (commonly referred to as G.I.s). The original G.I. Bill expired in 1956, but the term "G.I. Bill" is still used to refer to programs created to assist U.S. military veterans.

It was largely designed and passed through Congress in 1944 in a bipartisan effort led by the American Legion who wanted to reward practically all wartime veterans. Since the First World War the Legion had been in the forefront of lobbying Congress for generous benefits for war veterans.[1] Roosevelt, by contrast, wanted a much smaller program focused on poor people regardless of military service.[2] The final bill provided immediate financial rewards for practically all World War II veterans, thereby avoiding the highly disputed postponed life insurance policy payout for World War I veterans that had caused political turmoil in the 1920s and 1930s.[3] Benefits included low-cost mortgages, low-interest loans to start a business or farm, one year of unemployment compensation, and dedicated payments of tuition and living expenses to attend high school, college, or vocational school. These benefits were available to all veterans who had been on active duty during the war years for at least 90 days and had not been dishonorably discharged.[4]

By 1956, 7.8 million veterans had used the G.I. Bill education benefits, some 2.2 million to attend colleges or universities and an additional 5.6 million for some kind of training program.[5] Historians and economists judge the G.I. Bill a major political and economic success—especially in contrast to the treatments of World War I veterans—and a major contribution to U.S. stock of human capital that encouraged long-term economic growth.[6][7][8] However, the G.I. Bill received criticism for directing some funds to for-profit educational institutions and for failing to benefit African Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Bill
Did you really need to check wikipedia?

Does wikipedia explain why the democrats were willing to expand benefits to soldiers while a decade earlier Republicans preferred to gas veterans in the middle of Washington D.C. when they asked for less?

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Jay
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+2,003|4078|London, England

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:


The Congress that passed the GI bill was a Democrat Congress. It was the New Deal congress that took over after Republicans crashed the economy and gassed veterans looking to cash in the last Democrat GI Bill. This is a basic political fact that I guess you will never acknowledge because it shoots to shit a lot of what Republicans say about Democrats.
The Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944, commonly known as the G.I. Bill, was a law that provided a range of benefits for returning World War II veterans (commonly referred to as G.I.s). The original G.I. Bill expired in 1956, but the term "G.I. Bill" is still used to refer to programs created to assist U.S. military veterans.

It was largely designed and passed through Congress in 1944 in a bipartisan effort led by the American Legion who wanted to reward practically all wartime veterans. Since the First World War the Legion had been in the forefront of lobbying Congress for generous benefits for war veterans.[1] Roosevelt, by contrast, wanted a much smaller program focused on poor people regardless of military service.[2] The final bill provided immediate financial rewards for practically all World War II veterans, thereby avoiding the highly disputed postponed life insurance policy payout for World War I veterans that had caused political turmoil in the 1920s and 1930s.[3] Benefits included low-cost mortgages, low-interest loans to start a business or farm, one year of unemployment compensation, and dedicated payments of tuition and living expenses to attend high school, college, or vocational school. These benefits were available to all veterans who had been on active duty during the war years for at least 90 days and had not been dishonorably discharged.[4]

By 1956, 7.8 million veterans had used the G.I. Bill education benefits, some 2.2 million to attend colleges or universities and an additional 5.6 million for some kind of training program.[5] Historians and economists judge the G.I. Bill a major political and economic success—especially in contrast to the treatments of World War I veterans—and a major contribution to U.S. stock of human capital that encouraged long-term economic growth.[6][7][8] However, the G.I. Bill received criticism for directing some funds to for-profit educational institutions and for failing to benefit African Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Bill
Did you really need to check wikipedia?

Does wikipedia explain why the democrats were willing to expand benefits to soldiers while a decade earlier Republicans preferred to gas veterans in the middle of Washington D.C. when they asked for less?
Oh, I dunno, because they created a Hooverville in DC? Because they were an embarrassment? Saying they were gassed is a bit hyperbolic as well. Tear gas is hardly mustard gas.

Besides, Hoover was an atrocious president. Almost as bad as FDR.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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i love jay's takes on history, he is really really well read
SuperJail Warden
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Whenever historians do presidential polls, FDR, Lincoln, and Washington trade the top three spots. Anyone who calls FDR a bad president is really on the political fringe.
uziq
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people should stop giving trump such a hard time. people didn't pick on FDR!!!
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Whenever historians do presidential polls, FDR, Lincoln, and Washington trade the top three spots. Anyone who calls FDR a bad president is really on the political fringe.
He extended the depression and made it worse, he ignored convention and ran for the presidency 4 times, he tried to pack the court, would you like me to go on? He was a power-hungry fascist.

Why is Lincoln good? Because he gave a nice speech at Gettysburg? Because he freed the slaves? Because he suspended habeus corpus? Or because he held on by his fingertips to the country while dealing with incompetent generals for three years? Maybe if he'd had better political skills the country would not have divided in the first place? I mean I'm happy the Union was preserved, but I'm not sure how much governing Lincoln actually did during his presidency. He was rather pre-occupied.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Whenever historians do presidential polls, FDR, Lincoln, and Washington trade the top three spots. Anyone who calls FDR a bad president is really on the political fringe.
He extended the depression and made it worse, he ignored convention and ran for the presidency 4 times, he tried to pack the court, would you like me to go on? He was a power-hungry fascist.

Why is Lincoln good? Because he gave a nice speech at Gettysburg? Because he freed the slaves? Because he suspended habeus corpus? Or because he held on by his fingertips to the country while dealing with incompetent generals for three years? Maybe if he'd had better political skills the country would not have divided in the first place? I mean I'm happy the Union was preserved, but I'm not sure how much governing Lincoln actually did during his presidency. He was rather pre-occupied.
So who was the best or at least good presidents if Lincoln and FDR were failures?
SuperJail Warden
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FDR wasn't the first president to run more than 2 terms by the way. He was the first person to be so popular as to pull it off.
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

FDR wasn't the first president to run more than 2 terms by the way. He was the first person to be so popular as to pull it off.
Yes, his cousin was first.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

FDR wasn't the first president to run more than 2 terms by the way. He was the first person to be so popular as to pull it off.
Yes, his cousin was first.
Sorry, it was Grant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-pres … rm_attempt
Jay
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Learned something new today.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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Biden still sucks.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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Are you going to pick a president you think was good? Do you need some wikipedia articles to help you decide?
Dilbert_X
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Jay wrote:

I'm not sure how much governing Lincoln actually did during his presidency. He was rather pre-occupied.
I thought you were in favour of small government, now you're criticising for not doing enough?
Epstein didn't kill himself
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Are you going to pick a president you think was good? Do you need some wikipedia articles to help you decide?
I'd pick Coolidge and Eisenhower. Washington for setting up the government and stepping down after two terms.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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+2,003|4078|London, England
The best of my lifetime has probably been Clinton.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
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A big government socialist, congrats.
Epstein didn't kill himself
Jay
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Nah, his signature achievements were balancing the budget and welfare reform.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Jay wrote:

The best of my lifetime has probably been Clinton.
And yet you hated his wife so much you voted to keep him out of the White House?
Dilbert_X
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But he's a self-confessed liberal who took people's guns away.

And liberals never balance budgets, must be fake news.
Trump is already on track for a yuuuge surplus, possibly the greatest surplus ever in fact.

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