BF2S Forums Pandemic thread

Last edited by Larssen (2022-01-05 04:12:59)

SuperJail Warden wrote:

You guys need to stop bullying Dilbert. One of these days you will be sorry for how you treated him. You will all be sorry. Let's just say it will a 'don't come to the forum tomorrow' type of thing here.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Funny thing about Jay threatening to punch Uzique is that he never threatened to do it to me, someone who could actually meet him someplace to fist fight like teenagers fighting over 2002 AOL Instant Messenger conversations.

uziq wrote:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10353913/amp/Covid-19-Australia-handful-Omicron-cases-ICU-variant-boosts-immunity-Delta.html

only a handful of australian ICU cases are omicron.

Just 0.1 per cent of Omicron cases in NSW are in ICU and 0.3 per cent in Victoria

scary stuff!

Only one patient has died with Omicron in Australia, a man in his 80s with underlying health conditions who caught it in his Sydney nursing home.

holy shit! one old guy! shut down everything! the vaccines are useless asffhhhhh£))(()2!!!!



it’s amazing that you have the temerity to throw around the term ‘evidence’, disputing dozens of studies from dozens of countries on recent vaccine/booster effectivity; then you argue that omicron is laying waste to australia and ‘putting people in ICUs’ to a worrying degree. with those numbers above.

you’re a joke. take a pill you hysterical eunuch.

NSW Health has revealed 74 per cent of COVID positive patients admitted to ICU since December 16 were infected with the Delta variant of the virus, not the Omicron strain.

uziq wrote:

RE: omicron, yeah, dilbert's dishonesty here is off the scale. telling us that 'ICUs are filling up with omicron, dipshit!' when they patently are not.

jan4 wrote:

“Sometimes a rapid-fire could burn through very quickly,” says Dr. David Ho of the omicron variant, “but then put itself out.”

The high-transmission rate of the omicron variant of COVID-19 could potentially mean that as it rips its way through the U.S. population leaving antibodies in its wake, herd immunity may actually be possible.

In a recent CNBC report, Dr. David Ho, a world-renowned virologist, posited that “Sometimes a rapid-fire could burn through very quickly but then put itself out.”

Dr. Ho, a Columbia University professor, said his theory is a speculative one, but it is agreed upon by other experts. Dr. Bruce Farber, Northwell Health’s chief of infectious diseases, said the “best-case scenario” of the coronavirus would be a highly contagious variant that doesn’t make most people particularly sick and creates a temporary baseline of immunity.

“It could certainly help end large spikes of deadly Covid with high hospitalizations,” he added.

While the idea of the coronavirus pandemic ending is promising, allowing the world to return to some semblance of normal life, scientists also warn that it is highly unlikely that COVID will ever disappear completely.

“This virus is so well adapted for human-to-human transmission that it’s never going to away,” Dr. Timothy Brewer says. “There will be periods when there will be more cases and [fewer] cases, just like it occurs with influenza every year.”

Eventually, disease authorities maintain, the coronavirus will weaken, and regular vaccination and continued anti-viral treatments, combined with immunity, will likely lessen its severity in the years that follow.

jan5 wrote:

“We are seeing an increase in the number of hospitalizations,” said Dr. Rahul Sharma, emergency physician in chief for NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell hospital. But the severity of the disease looks different from previous waves, he said. “We’re not sending as many patients to the ICU, we’re not intubating as many patients, and actually, most of our patients that are coming to the emergency department that do test positive are actually being discharged.”

Although it’s still early for firm predictions, the shift in hospital patterns fits with emerging data that omicron may be a variant with inherently milder effects than those that have come before, less prone to infecting the lungs, where it can cause serious disease. But the lower proportion of severe cases is also happening because, compared with previous variants, omicron is infecting more people who have some prior immunity, whether through prior infection or vaccination. The vast majority of omicron patients in ICUs are unvaccinated or have severely compromised immune systems, doctors said.

The number of ICU patients is a lagging indicator, likely to rise in the coming weeks, experts said. What’s more, some states are still struggling under the crush of hospitalizations from delta, a previous version of the virus that may be more virulent. (Hospitals are frequently in the dark about which variant newly admitted patients are infected with.)

Still, several reports suggest that omicron is a foe different from the variants that came before. And the challenges hospitals face — at least so far — are less about stockpiling equipment and more about staffing and contagion, doctors said.

“Early on in the pandemic, we were worried about running out of things, like ventilators,” said Dr. Ryan Maves, an infectious disease and critical care physician at the Wake Forest School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. “Now, the real limitations are obviously physical bed space, but even more so, it’s staffing.”