Once again, Aus and NZ did 'close the border' then gradually reopened it.
We still have 14 days mandatory quarantine.
We still have 14 days mandatory quarantine.
Fuck Israel
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-lung … ers-lungs/KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
2010-2019: flu killed ~330,000 Americans
It's just the flu (*10)
ah, yes, i still bear the scars to this day from my bouts of flu.A Texas trauma surgeon says it's rare that X-rays from any of her COVID-19 patients come back without dense scarring. Dr. Brittany Bankhead-Kendall tweeted, "Post-COVID lungs look worse than any type of terrible smoker's lung we've ever seen. And they collapse. And they clot off. And the shortness of breath lingers on... & on... & on."
"Everyone's just so worried about the mortality thing and that's terrible and it's awful," she told CBS Dallas-Fort Worth. "But man, for all the survivors and the people who have tested positive this is — it's going to be a problem."
We had 0 community cases yesterday, Britain had 55,000, if you don't want to learn bad luck.uziq wrote:
once again, my point is there are still flights and people can still move between countries with a minimum of caution and a simple test.
you have been calling for far more stringent measures all year, which i have been calling unreasonable and ridiculous.
quarantining for 15 days on arrival in a new destination to make sure you'r all-clear from covid is wise, yes. tests too. no disagreement.
isn't australia still stopping even most australians from flying home right now? i saw the emirates just cancelled all their routes because of vastly reduced numbers allowed back. sounds very unreasonable.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-16/ … t/13063920Two people onboard a specially chartered flight into Melbourne for the Australian Open have tested positive for coronavirus, meaning players travelling with them will be confined to their rooms and unable to train for 14 days.
An aircrew member and an Australian Open participant who is not a player arrived on the flight from Los Angeles on Friday morning, COVID-19 Quarantine Victoria (CQV) said.
The passenger returned a negative result after a pre-departure test.
The two have been transferred to a "health hotel" after returning positive tests for COVID-19.
"All remaining 66 passengers on the flight have been determined to be close contacts. Any players and support people will not be able to leave quarantine to attend training," a CQV spokesperson said.
Under quarantine conditions ahead of the grand slam next month, COVID-negative players are allowed out of their hotel room for up to five hours each day to train.
Mexican player Santiago Gonzalez and Uruguayan player Pablo Cuevas were amongst players who posted on social media to confirm they were on QR7493 from LAX and would have to stay in their rooms.
"Players are being supported to access equipment for their hotel rooms to help them maintain their fitness during this time," the CQV spokesperson said.
Several EU countries are receiving significantly fewer doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine than expected, after the US firm slowed shipments.
Six nations called the situation "unacceptable" and warned it "decreases the credibility of the vaccination process".
Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia urged the EU to apply pressure on Pfizer-BioNTech.
Pfizer said the reduced deliveries were a temporary issue.
In a statement on Friday, the drugmaker said shipments were being affected by changes to its manufacturing processes designed to boost production.
"Although this will temporarily impact shipments in late January to early February, it will provide a significant increase in doses available for patients in late February and March," Pfizer said.
https://www.politico.eu/article/israel- … ss-secret/Just three weeks since the first Israeli citizen received the BioNTech/Pfizer jab — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu himself — the country has raced ahead of the rest of world with vaccinations, covering about 20 percent of its population to date.
Reasons behind this roaring start are fast emerging: Netanyahu revealed on January 7 that Israel struck an agreement with Pfizer to exchange citizens' data for 10 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine, including a promise of shipments of 400,000-700,000 doses every week.
Under this agreement, Israel will provide details to Pfizer (as well as and the World Health Organization) about the age, gender and medical history of those receiving the jab as well as its side effects and efficacy. No identifying information will be given in order to maintain some privacy.
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Netanyahu — who is hoping to get reelected in March — has also repeatedly brought up his close relationships with the chief executives of Pfizer and Moderna, suggesting his connections helped secure millions of doses.
"I speak to them all the time," Netanyahu said. He added that Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, a descendant of a Jewish family from Thessaloniki, is "a great friend" of Israel.
Imagine going into WW2 not knowing if it was going to last ten years or if you were going to win or lose.Larssen wrote:
It's on the news in multiple places that the UK virus variant may keep countries in lockdown until summer. I haven't much complained about control measures so far but this is just madness. Add the vaccine delivery delays to the EU and uncertainty over its protective ability against all the mutations that are popping up, I wonder if by the next easing of measures we should start reconsidering our strategy if indeed vaccinations aren't the holy grail. i.e. consider it an endemic disease and let it go.
I can't rationalise crippling all these young people and destroying livelihoods for a year and a half to save people who are overwhelmingly already retired or at life's end; the highest percentage of deaths by far is in the 80-89 bracket. And they too are subjected to increasing stresses not being able to see their loved ones. We shouldn't underestimate or trivialise the crushing effects of long term loneliness.
It's still fine for now but the prospect of 5 months lockdown, it just sounds insane.
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You stupid fuckersDilbert_X wrote:
If you keep coming up with the same ridiculous ideas thats what happens.
Great news though, we're holding an international tennis tournament - what could go wrong?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-16/ … t/13063920More than 120 people, including 47 players, have been counted as close contacts of the three positive cases, who arrived on charter flights into Victoria from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday morning.
Apparently european countries care as they aren't getting the vaccines they were promised but israel apparently is.uziq wrote:
everyone knew the vaccine distribution was going to be a great global game. israel’s population are a drop in the bucket in terms of total vaccines so who cares?
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israel has 9 million people. let’s say (very) charitably that 6 million of them will get vaccinated.Dilbert_X wrote:
Apparently european countries care as they aren't getting the vaccines they were promised but israel apparently is.uziq wrote:
everyone knew the vaccine distribution was going to be a great global game. israel’s population are a drop in the bucket in terms of total vaccines so who cares?
Its a little bit mysterious as they're being shipped out of europe to israel.
The unique part about this crisis is that we are no longer allowed to be the social beings we naturally are. People move in crowds, go to regular social gatherings, attend social rituals etc. During natural disasters, wartime or any other crisis all this still takes place. Now, it's taboo, for obvious reasons.Dilbert_X wrote:
Imagine going into WW2 not knowing if it was going to last ten years or if you were going to win or lose.Larssen wrote:
It's on the news in multiple places that the UK virus variant may keep countries in lockdown until summer. I haven't much complained about control measures so far but this is just madness. Add the vaccine delivery delays to the EU and uncertainty over its protective ability against all the mutations that are popping up, I wonder if by the next easing of measures we should start reconsidering our strategy if indeed vaccinations aren't the holy grail. i.e. consider it an endemic disease and let it go.
I can't rationalise crippling all these young people and destroying livelihoods for a year and a half to save people who are overwhelmingly already retired or at life's end; the highest percentage of deaths by far is in the 80-89 bracket. And they too are subjected to increasing stresses not being able to see their loved ones. We shouldn't underestimate or trivialise the crushing effects of long term loneliness.
It's still fine for now but the prospect of 5 months lockdown, it just sounds insane.
Three months could kill this thing, six months easily. Various groups need to be compensated and managed in the long term but it needs to be done.
Or we can let millions die and many of the survivors live with Han-virus lung. Extrapolating would 1.75m deaths in the UK be an acceptable price to allow young people to party again?
The bigger problem is what happens in the next pandemic, and the one after that, and the one after that, because its going to be like a conveyor belt.
And we've barely started to see all the old pandemics develop antibiotic resistance thanks largely to india and the rest of asia with their farming practices and profligate use of medicines. TB Alone could end international travel forever and I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.