Dilbert_X
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Almost 5% of the people in the Chinese city of Wuhan may have been infected with Covid-19, a study by researchers at the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention has shown.

Wuhan's population is estimated at 11 million, which suggests that almost 500,000 people may have had the virus.

If true, that is almost 10 times higher than Wuhan's officially recorded number of 50,354 cases.

Asymptomatic cases are not counted in China's official case tally.

The study, carried out early this year, took samples from 34,000 people in Wuhan, as well the broader Hubei province, Beijing, Shanghai and four other provinces, said China's CDC in a statement on WeChat.

Researchers found an antibody prevalence rate of 4.43% in Wuhan, and a prevalence rate of 0.44% in the broader Hubei province.

The study comes ahead of a visit by a team of international scientists to Wuhan to investigate the origins of the virus. They will visit next month, following months of negotiations with Beijing, who had been reluctant to agree to an independent inquiry.

China had earlier this year been accused of a lack of transparency over its virus figures, with critics casting doubt on the extent to which their numbers could be trusted.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55481397
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uziq
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you cut off the also interesting bottom part of the article, where it says that experts now doubt covid-19 originated in the wet market.
Dilbert_X
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I didn't notice that, I said a while back that people have been saying it may have been the route from the lab.
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LOL oh yes, if not the wet market then a top-secret lab leaking viruses instead.
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Its a fairly mainstream theory that it leaked from the lab to the wet market.
Apparently its well known that labs sell their rats for food.
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uziq
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of course, a top-level government laboratory is in need of money so badly that they sell medical rats for food.

what sort, pray tell? sprague-dawley? delicious!
KEN-JENNINGS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

It clearly did originate in China though.
There's a difference between saying COVID-19 originated in China and calling it the "Chinese Virus". People who are calling it Chinese Virus or Kung Flu usually have an agenda around denying the severity of the virus and a lack of action in developing any sort of plan to mitigate the spread. Because, you know, it's China's fault, so be angry at them for starting it(?) instead of local politicians for doing fuckall about it.
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I'm fine with how my local politicians, and the general public, have handled it here.
They picked the wrong moment and made a mistake in going alone in calling China out on their lies.

The 'China Virus' and their dishonesty has cost us billions and many lives, its only China which doesn't like hearing it.
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It'S oNlY ChiNa tHaT dOeSn'T lIkE HeArINg iT!

This happened down the street from me. But since it doesn't affect Dilbert, it's a non-issue.
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Americans are weird, the virus still originated in China and they could have helped a lot by not concealing it for 2+ months.
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And calling it the Chinese Virus achieves what, exactly, in relation to that?
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This particular skirmish has probably seen at least 20 cycles in this thread alone. Once again, people don't call it the "China Virus" because it's direct or out of some noble sense of efficiency. They call it the "China Virus" because it feeds into anti-Asian bias propaganda artists have been stuffing down their throats.

By the way, "Spanish Flu" was incorrect:
https://www.history.com/news/why-was-it … panish-flu

While it’s unlikely that the “Spanish Flu” originated in Spain, scientists are still unsure of its source. France, China and Britain have all been suggested as the potential birthplace of the virus, as has the United States, where the first known case was reported at a military base in Kansas on March 11, 1918. Researchers have also conducted extensive studies on the remains of victims of the pandemic, but they have yet to discover why the strain that ravaged the world in 1918 was so lethal.
Dilbert_X
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

And calling it the Chinese Virus achieves what, exactly, in relation to that?
I dunno, it identifies it?

Maybe we shouldn't call swine flu swine flu, pigs have feelings you know.

I imagine the American Legion is still butthurt about Legionnaires disease.

The fact the Chinese have been aggressive from day one should be instructive.

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https://t.co/Q9Ue8mBsCT

american rogue hospital workers are destroying the vaccine.

60% of people in ohio have said they’re not going to have the vaccine.

the perfect crisis for a society grown fat on disinformation. i’m guessing covid isn’t being wrapped up any time soon in the states.
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40% is enough for herd immunity right
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I would be supportive of calling it Wuhan Flu and using it as a cudgel to beat the Chinese with if our own government didn't purposefully botch our virus response. When the initial outbreak in NYC took place the Trump adminstration was happy to let it go wild because they thought it would be a blue state problem. Trump almost literally tried to commit policide on blue states. There is nothing the Chinese could do to make me forget that the president wanted people like me to get sick and die.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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Maybe Trump is a Chinese agent.

It would be good to always call this the Chinese Bat Virus, so people don't forget.

Or maybe we could rename the Nazi Holocaust the Global Holocaust, because, you know, it was really.
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Who the Holocaust belongs to is a serious argument among some people. There are some Jewish historians who thinks the title belongs exclusively to the 6 million Jews while others says it belongs to all of the 11 million non-combatants purposefully killed by Nazi Germany. I think the title belongs to all of the 11 million. The Nazis had the same plans for the Poles and Russians that they had for the Jews after all.
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I've never heard it specifically referred to as the 'Nazi Holocaust', it's always just 'The Holocaust'. Nobody says 'Wow The Holocaust sure sucked' only to hear back 'Which one?'
There's been lord-knows-how-many genocides but so far only the WWII one holds the title of 'The' holocaust.
uziq
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dilbert’s faculty for analogy is very bad, perhaps the worst example in any human being i have ever met.
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uziq wrote:

https://t.co/Q9Ue8mBsCT

american rogue hospital workers are destroying the vaccine.

60% of people in ohio have said they’re not going to have the vaccine.

the perfect crisis for a society grown fat on disinformation. i’m guessing covid isn’t being wrapped up any time soon in the states.
Hopefully will remain isolated, but I wouldn't be surprised if more of that happened.

Between all the ongoing anti-vax propaganda, the politicization of the pandemic, the "too soon! MASSIVE side effects" crowd, and the lack of good description in the 24 hr news cycle, it's no wonder people are scared away from the vaccine.

How many Americans know what an mRNA is? Mutant gene that will make them grow slime glands?
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I would be supportive of calling it Wuhan Flu and using it as a cudgel to beat the Chinese with if our own government didn't purposefully botch our virus response. When the initial outbreak in NYC took place the Trump adminstration was happy to let it go wild because they thought it would be a blue state problem. Trump almost literally tried to commit policide on blue states. There is nothing the Chinese could do to make me forget that the president wanted people like me to get sick and die.
I think Republicans living in blue states need to take more note of that.
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I'm happy that my parents are seemingly on board and gung-ho for vaccination. I haven't seen anyone in my orbit publically expressing those concerns, but I know they're out there. The selectiveness of it is what gets me, though. These people have almost certainly had other vaccinations where there's no concern about the adjuvants, but this one is just so sinister (although we also should be praising Trump for his contributions in getting it out according to them).

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pirana6 wrote:

I've never heard it specifically referred to as the 'Nazi Holocaust', it's always just 'The Holocaust'. Nobody says 'Wow The Holocaust sure sucked' only to hear back 'Which one?'
There's been lord-knows-how-many genocides but so far only the WWII one holds the title of 'The' holocaust.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50743973
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uziq wrote:

dilbert’s faculty for analogy is very bad, perhaps the worst example in any human being i have ever met.
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