Last edited by RTHKI (2020-07-08 18:52:57)
Wait, so people who don't wear masks are cowards now?Jay wrote:
Why is that people's big hangup? Oh my CO2 buildup! It sucks, and it's uncomfortable but it's not dangerous. People are being such babies about the masks.
Sure, let's go with that.Dilbert_X wrote:
Wait, so people who don't wear masks are cowards now?Jay wrote:
Why is that people's big hangup? Oh my CO2 buildup! It sucks, and it's uncomfortable but it's not dangerous. People are being such babies about the masks.
I never flip-flopped, but ok. I wear a mask every day for work.Dilbert_X wrote:
Great, but don't ever call anyone a flip-flopper.
Last edited by uziq (2020-07-09 04:42:52)
No, I was saying that people hiding in their homes and demanding the economy be shut down were cowards. I've never been against taking precautions like washing hands, maintaining spacing or wearing PPE. I think you personally are a coward because you're sitting in your shitbox apartment, giving in to hysteria, and not giving a single thought to people who would lose their jobs because you are scared.uziq wrote:
you were recycling all the namecalling of public-space-avoiding, mask-wearing people as 'cowards' not even a month ago.
tacitly endorsing the militias who were protesting lockdown conditions.
dismissing scientific experts and epidemiological guidance; criticizing hysterical democrat leaders.
now you wear a mask? lol you are as cucked as blustering bolsonaro.
OkDilbert_X wrote:
You're scared your shares could drop, its totally understandable, take some deep breaths - maybe not near your kids if they've been to kindergarten - those little fuckers spread Bat Flu like crazy.
where did i demand the economy be shut down? i've continued to work for the entire period whilst my tax money has paid in large part for a huge swathe of the economy to be furloughed at 80% pay. do you see me complaining? no.Jay wrote:
No, I was saying that people hiding in their homes and demanding the economy be shut down were cowards. I've never been against taking precautions like washing hands, maintaining spacing or wearing PPE. I think you personally are a coward because you're sitting in your shitbox apartment, giving in to hysteria, and not giving a single thought to people who would lose their jobs because you are scared.uziq wrote:
you were recycling all the namecalling of public-space-avoiding, mask-wearing people as 'cowards' not even a month ago.
tacitly endorsing the militias who were protesting lockdown conditions.
dismissing scientific experts and epidemiological guidance; criticizing hysterical democrat leaders.
now you wear a mask? lol you are as cucked as blustering bolsonaro.
medical workers having a good whinge on reddit.I'm a Physical therapist is a level one trauma center in a city/state that did a good job of flattening the curve. I see patients who required hospitalization at every step of their recovery. 3 young guys come to mind.
Early 30s, works full time, has wife and kids. Literally no past medical history. Prolonged intubated that eventually lead to extreme muscle wasting, and what presented as a full body motor weakness. He eventually developed sepsis and has had multiple organ issues. He couldn't walk, couldn't swallow. I think was in the hospital a total of about 30 days and has been on our rehab double that. And he can still barely walk. While he will recover he will likely always have long term damage.
Another young guy with a presentation that in addition to being on a ventilator for weeks, then having a trach, he also had more neuro presentation. I've read other countries are literally giving this presentation a guillian barre diagnosis, and that's honestly how it presented. Extreme weakness of the trunk muscles, I literally have to hold his head up when we try to sit up. He can't control his legs or arms, cannot coordinate movement, can't brush his hair, wash his face because his motor coordination is so poor. He got sick in early May and is just now in our step down unit. He won't get be strong enough to go to rehab for some time, he'll end up in a long term care hospital.
And we just had our first covid stroke. I think he was in his 40s, basic covid case. Not in the ICU at all. But during evaluation he presented like a classic MCA stroke. Imaging shows diffuse strokes all through his brain. He's also got a long road ahead, but will likely walk again. Not sure if he'll ever recover motor function of his hand. But we caught it immediately, so he did get great medical interventions, so should recover well.
And now, we are starting to see recovered covid patients come back. They test negative, but they still can't breathe and their x-rays look just as horrible as they did when the disease was active in them. I've only seen older people with this new fibrosis pneumonia, but I can only imagine all those Young folks without symptoms might actually be developing fibrosis that will haunt them in years to come.
The Masks Masquerade by Nassim Nicholas Taleb is worth a read.
“Libertarians” (in brackets) are resisting mask wearing on grounds that it constrains their freedom. Yet the entire concept of liberty lies in the Non-Aggression Principle, the equivalent of the Silver Rule: do not harm others; they in turn should not harm you. Even more insulting is the demand by pseudolibertarians that Costco should banned from forcing customers to wear mask — but libertarianism allows you to set the rules on your own property. Costco should be able to force visitors to wear pink shirts and purple glasses if they wished.
Note that by infecting another person you are not infecting just another person. You are infecting many many more and causing systemic risk.
Wear a mask. For the Sake of Others.
Right. Which is why I wear a mask. I don't have to, I already have antibodies, but its a small price to pay to avoid giving the people around me anxiety.uziq wrote:
https://kottke.org/20/06/jesus-christ-just-wear-a-face-maskThe Masks Masquerade by Nassim Nicholas Taleb is worth a read.
“Libertarians” (in brackets) are resisting mask wearing on grounds that it constrains their freedom. Yet the entire concept of liberty lies in the Non-Aggression Principle, the equivalent of the Silver Rule: do not harm others; they in turn should not harm you. Even more insulting is the demand by pseudolibertarians that Costco should banned from forcing customers to wear mask — but libertarianism allows you to set the rules on your own property. Costco should be able to force visitors to wear pink shirts and purple glasses if they wished.
Note that by infecting another person you are not infecting just another person. You are infecting many many more and causing systemic risk.
Wear a mask. For the Sake of Others.
Last edited by uziq (2020-07-09 14:32:10)
Oh, please. You were using handwashing as a put-down from page one.Jay wrote:
No, I was saying that people hiding in their homes and demanding the economy be shut down were cowards. I've never been against taking precautions like washing hands, maintaining spacing or wearing PPE. I think you personally are a coward because you're sitting in your shitbox apartment, giving in to hysteria, and not giving a single thought to people who would lose their jobs because you are scared.uziq wrote:
you were recycling all the namecalling of public-space-avoiding, mask-wearing people as 'cowards' not even a month ago.
tacitly endorsing the militias who were protesting lockdown conditions.
dismissing scientific experts and epidemiological guidance; criticizing hysterical democrat leaders.
now you wear a mask? lol you are as cucked as blustering bolsonaro.
Last edited by Jay (2020-07-09 14:36:50)
I was. Because you're mostly a dipshit and I knew it would get under your skin, Mr. Hughes.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Oh, please. You were using handwashing as a put-down from page one.Jay wrote:
No, I was saying that people hiding in their homes and demanding the economy be shut down were cowards. I've never been against taking precautions like washing hands, maintaining spacing or wearing PPE. I think you personally are a coward because you're sitting in your shitbox apartment, giving in to hysteria, and not giving a single thought to people who would lose their jobs because you are scared.uziq wrote:
you were recycling all the namecalling of public-space-avoiding, mask-wearing people as 'cowards' not even a month ago.
tacitly endorsing the militias who were protesting lockdown conditions.
dismissing scientific experts and epidemiological guidance; criticizing hysterical democrat leaders.
now you wear a mask? lol you are as cucked as blustering bolsonaro.
Also can we please stop saying that working from home if you're able during a viral pandemic is a form of cowardice? Would that have ever been your estimation of telecommuting before this viral pandemic? No? Then shut up.
Trolling you, yes.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
"I was really trolling all along," -Ragequit Jay
Yeah right.
