BF2S Forums Pandemic thread

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

Oh wow a disease was the greatest cause of mortality in a demographic that is typically death free!!! Zomg! You're bad at math.

i refer you to the last 180 pages of discussion for your track record on stats. you couldn't even read and understand an unlabelled graph about the curve.

you evidently are dimwitted. you do not understand the very simple extrapolation of what will happen if nothing is done, and we do not have measures.

young people get seriously ill in sufficient number that it would pose a major public health risk, if hospitals were full.

yes, young people have a better chance of survival, but many require ventilation. no ventilators free, avoidably dead person. lots of other people die for avoidable reasons when the hospitals are at max capacity for prolonged periods.

people have been repeating this to you for 4 months. you are genuinely dimwitted.

uzi, I was correct in everything I said. You're so blinded by wanting to be right all the time that you've made yourself miserable by convincing yourself the world is going to end. I genuinely feel sorry for you. You are the least likeable, most miserable person I've ever encountered.

uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

i refer you to the last 180 pages of discussion for your track record on stats. you couldn't even read and understand an unlabelled graph about the curve.

you evidently are dimwitted. you do not understand the very simple extrapolation of what will happen if nothing is done, and we do not have measures.

young people get seriously ill in sufficient number that it would pose a major public health risk, if hospitals were full.

yes, young people have a better chance of survival, but many require ventilation. no ventilators free, avoidably dead person. lots of other people die for avoidable reasons when the hospitals are at max capacity for prolonged periods.

people have been repeating this to you for 4 months. you are genuinely dimwitted.

uzi, I was correct in everything I said. You're so blinded by wanting to be right all the time that you've made yourself miserable by convincing yourself the world is going to end. I genuinely feel sorry for you. You are the least likeable, most miserable person I've ever encountered.

nobody is miserable here. you always escalate it to this level as soon as anyone asks you to think through the implications of what you're saying.

'i feel sorry for you, living in fear'. you have repeated this performance about 8 times already in this thread. make a point. nobody here who is criticising your posts is 'living in fear' or 'taking out their misery on everyone else'. you are a thick cunt. and you have a face like a raspberry.

uziq wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

0.1% is the typical death rate for the flu. Out of every 1,000 people that get the flu, 1 typically dies.

For covid, the rate is less than 0.3%, so approximately 1 out of every 333 people die after contracting it. The odds for someone under 50 dying is 1 out of 2000, and that person most likely had a comorbidity. It kills the elderly at a rate of about 1 per 150. The US death toll is so high because, due to shitty policies our governors came up with, the virus ran wild in the population most likely to die from it: people in nursing homes.

Without the test to prove your numbers your stats are conjecture?

this is jay's whole act. pick out the worst-case scenarios to lambast the experts, cherrypick the best stats from his preferred source to minimise the whole thing.

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

uzi, I was correct in everything I said. You're so blinded by wanting to be right all the time that you've made yourself miserable by convincing yourself the world is going to end. I genuinely feel sorry for you. You are the least likeable, most miserable person I've ever encountered.

nobody is miserable here. you always escalate it to this level as soon as anyone asks you to think through the implications of what you're saying.

'i feel sorry for you, living in fear'. you have repeated this performance about 8 times already in this thread. make a point. nobody here who is criticising your posts is 'living in fear' or 'taking out their misery on everyone else'. you are a thick cunt. and you have a face like a raspberry.

I'm seriously surprised you haven't made several suicide attempts.

They're not projections uzi. They're actual test results. Go look in the original article. Everything is sourced.

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Anyone upset that the economy died due to the lock down are getting mad at the wrong thing. The baby depression we are in was a policy choice. The federal government could have done dozens of things to prevent the total decline but it it didn't. The U.S. had an unique set of financial tools that no other country in the world has and we decided not to use them due to executive incompetence and right wing ideology.

Oh stop. Stop with the UBI nonsense. You can't write unlimited debt and expect it to work out. Dumbest shit the Sanders/AOC camp has come up with. We should've never shut down.

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

I'm seriously surprised you haven't made several suicide attempts.

aren't you the guy who was complaining about how unbearable it was to be at home for 5 weeks with his wife and family? sounds like you're nearer to the edge than i am, clearly in some sort of existential torment.

They're not projections uzi. They're actual test results. Go look in the original article. Everything is sourced.

do you have any idea how many methodological assumptions there are in compiling 'general' results like that? how they arrive at those stats? do you know how unreliable the tests are, furthermore? it's bad stats built on bad stats. even the people who designed the tests caution against their reliability. and yet you take it as gospel. like i said, you're thick.

Ok. Completely pointless trying to give you good news. Please don't stick your head in the oven. It doesn't work anymore.

Last edited by uziq (2020-05-25 11:29:14)

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

0.1% is the typical death rate for the flu. Out of every 1,000 people that get the flu, 1 typically dies.

For covid, the rate is less than 0.3%, so approximately 1 out of every 333 people die after contracting it. The odds for someone under 50 dying is 1 out of 2000, and that person most likely had a comorbidity. It kills the elderly at a rate of about 1 per 150. The US death toll is so high because, due to shitty policies our governors came up with, the virus ran wild in the population most likely to die from it: people in nursing homes.

Without the test to prove your numbers your stats are conjecture?

They're based on antibody testing.

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

They're based on antibody testing.

The reliability of antibody testing is still not settled and I already spoke about the sampling problems when Andrew C. released the NY state numbers.

If you hate work this much, why not get yourself a patreon account and some sponsors who will let you work your calling, which is clearly (not) painting toys, and curating the reddit accounts of porn stars. I'm sure there's money to be made somehow.