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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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do you take prescriptions to make you feel a-okay
SuperJail Warden
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Do you know you spent multitudes more time in inpatient treatment than my entire lifetime before you were even out of high school?
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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no i didn't, but thanks for the information. it has been catalogued.

Do you still see shadows in your room?
SuperJail Warden
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I don't recall ever seeing shadows.

???
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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I guess it's all in your head.
SuperJail Warden
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I didn't know he wrote that song. I'm so old.
SuperJail Warden
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When I get into the shower in the morning this song is usually on my playlist. The opening lyrics are highly relevant.
Adams_BJ
Warman is a hermaphrodite.
+2,028|5093|Little Bentcock
I used to have lucid dreams as a kid
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Epstein didn't kill himself
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,621|4259|Catherine Black
if I click a "static.bf2s" image link I get redirected to https://www.jacksonswesternstore.com/

lol
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
unnamednewbie13
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Surgically removed the links from a ken-deleted spampost. Pretty wild reading material, if you give it a chance:

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SuperJail Warden
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I had a newbie moment today. Amazon shipped my coffee grinder without a box. They just slapped a shipping label on the front of the thing from off the shelf and sent it to UPS. The top wasn't even taped on and it was a small miracle that it didn't come apart on the way here.
unnamednewbie13
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"You're not allowed to complain at any length about inadequate services. Only I'm allowed to funnel money to a ruthless corporation and not take any flak for it. Besides, my evil corporation isn't even the same thing and I'm doing it for nostalgia! Also, only I'm allowed to type 30-line posts because nobody else can type fast like I can. Nobody dare criticize their length, but your posts are fair game! You're lazy and cheap, macbeth. I will remember this so that when it comes up again much later, I can jump down your throat about how you've been banging on about it for months. OK, boomer?"

But seriously that sounds like a third party seller move.
uziq
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all i'm saying is you guys go for the cheapest option possible, knowing it undercuts everyone else, and then complain when you get a cheap or shoddy service.

there are literally hundreds of alternatives.

maybe stop being such corporate cucks?
unnamednewbie13
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That's hardly all you were saying.

There's also this misconception here that it's the universally cheapest option. It isn't. It's often comparable to competition with negligible differences.

From B&N top listings,

On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/on-tyr … 25454355#/ $6.74
https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Twenty-L … 804190119/ $6.93

Here's a book I want. $17.09 through B&N web, or $17.25 from the local small book store. Wow, these online prices are knocking it out of the park! As much as 16 cents savings is tugging at me, I don't want to be seen as a corporate cuck. Better go burn gas through city traffic on a 30 minute special trip just pick it up. Oh wait, I can have it delivered for $10 more dollars. *click*

Amazon's hardly the only company I've bought from to have issues with packing, but they are one of the most frequent offenders. That they are one of the fewer who've argued with me about a damaged delivery is a point in their favor, but I buy my books elsewhere.

$450 piece of hardware? Here, let me cross-check amazon, newegg, b&h, tigerdirect, and so on. Ooh, one of these sites has it for $100 off MSRP? Guess I'll be cheap and buy it there.

Is that unreasonable?
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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Completely. You should always pay MSRP directly from the manufacturer. No discounts. Cut out the middlemen.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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Uzi comes from the industry that charges poor college students $400 for a textbook and issues a new edition every 3 years that doesn't change the content, but destroys the value of all used editions.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
uziq
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i don't have anything to do with textbook publishing, never have and never will. not least because the work is absolutely soul-crushingly boring.

i've published non-fiction books, history, art history, philosophy -- the stuff you'd read and buy from a bookstore. and i publish academic research in journal and monograph form, you know, the stuff that actually drives forward progress in your beloved sciences. i work for a not-for-profit learned society, one of the oldest in the world and one of the main professional bodies for scientists. every pound we make is reinvested into physics research, physics education, encouraging people to study physics, public understanding of physics, etc.

so please try again

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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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uziq wrote:

i don't have anything to do with textbook publishing, never have and never will. not least because the work is absolutely soul-crushingly boring.

i've published non-fiction books, history, art history, philosophy -- the stuff you'd read and buy from a bookstore. and i publish academic research in journal and monograph form, you know, the stuff that actually drives forward progress in your beloved sciences. i work for a not-for-profit learned society, one of the oldest in the world and one of the main professional bodies for scientists. every pound we make is reinvested into physics research, physics education, encouraging people to study physics, public understanding of physics, etc.

so please try again
I don't care.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
uziq
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and i didn't even have to kill anyone or contribute to the slaughter, immiseration and displacement of millions of innocent people in order to get to this respectable position.



how's the month in aircon, jay? do you have any industry newsletters i could perhaps subscribe to?

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Larssen
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how do you go from a humanities background into a learned society for physics
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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You couldn't afford them. They're priced for corporate accounts.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
uziq
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Larssen wrote:

how do you go from a humanities background into a learned society for physics
i work in publishing. outside of the huge profit-driven conglomerates, like the textbook publishers to which jay is referring, many journals and periodicals are the work of learned societies. to publish research of any kind requires a broad amount of expertise, even in the editorial side of things; and a good book editor has a broad base of transferable skills to academic publishing, and vice versa. academic research is a very international, multi-lingual enterprise. plus scientists are not good communicators or writers in general.

i'd say about 60% of the people have PhD's in science and/or previous academic careers. the rest have PhDs or postgrad generally in a humanities or social science. someone working at a top university press managing and editing a backlist of, say, anthropology, could have a background in english or history. in fact it's almost impossible, and not necessary, for an editor in academic publishing to be an 'expert' in the many things they edit: that's what peer review is for. most professional scientists aren't expert enough in other scientists' work – the disciplines and research are just too advanced. this should be obvious.

say an editor with a PhD in physics, optics in particular, manages a portfolio of journals. none of them will have anything to do with optics, most likely, but instead, say, particle physics, or quantum physics, or extreme materials engineering. their expertise is already next to useless (even making the huge assumption that someone with knowledge of a field will have a masterful command of the entire field). say that same editor receives 30% of their papers from chinese researchers (quickly overtaking the US as the main area of research). who is going to be better qualified to re-write and translate that garbled chinese paper: the optics PhD or a humanities postgrad?

so there's a little primer for you on why publishing houses employ a broad range of people.

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Larssen
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Thanks for the explanation. Don't you get lost in subject specific vernacular every once in a while though? When I was in uni friends in medicine or STEM fields would sometimes ask me to review their papers. At times I ended up wrongly correcting their terminology (which can make for very strange sentences).

I don't consider myself a great writer but have to say that STEM and especially medical professionals produce & publish absolutely atrocious essays.

Good on you for landing a job there and enjoying the field. I wouldn't be able to do it.

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uziq
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i switched over because i was exhausted working with something close to my specialism everyday. it’s a truism in all the arts that you shouldn’t find a work-a-day job in your area of interest or passion. wanting to do a PhD in literature and working on literary books all day ... bad idea. after 8 hours reading an adjacent subject, i was too burnt out to make meaningful progress.

working on science is great. it’s very interesting. half of every journal article is obviously taken up with mathematical proof and hard physics. but the expository and descriptive stuff is fine, certainly not any more abstruse than literary theory or bloody Hegel. if you can stomach writing essays on heidegger, you can deal with science articles. plus, concision, clarity, simplicity of expression are the ideals of communicative prose. i’m often just taking something that’s syntactically broken and making it as simple as possible. that said, yes it takes a high level of skill at copy-editing by professional standards. as for the physics bits, i can restyle equations and know how to treat an exponential or a differential without needing to grasp the physics (mercifully). the rest has been double-blind peer reviewed two or three times by peers. if there’s anything to be corrected in it, it sure as hell ain’t my business (in all my time there have been no retractions for bad or mistaken science; good journals arrange good peer review and very high standards of academic integrity; it’s part of what researchers pay for).

a good editor learns to leave well alone anything with doubt; a bad editor would rewrite too much. for any doubt, there’s the telephone or email. last week i interacted both with north korean researchers (a first) and a leading quantum physicist, someone who has won just about every prize except the nobel and been knighted for it. it’s a satisfying job.

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