SuperJail Warden
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I spoke to a girl from New York on the phone. She said I have a very Jersey accent
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RTHKI
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Y'all got owned
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SuperJail Warden
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I knew a girl from Texas in college. She would drop "y'all's" from time to time.
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unnamednewbie13
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In "celebrity" news (corporations are people), EVGA's dramatic, messy divorce with NVIDIA. Says it wasn't treated right, says it was a non-difficult decision.

My last few video cards have been EVGA-branded. I wish them well on their ventures with computer mice and PSUs.
SuperJail Warden
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EVGA are my preferred GPU brand. Really surprising
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pirana6
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English people:

I was told by a coworker in England they're currently in a pub "celebrating queen lizzy". Is there a celebration? I thought it was all a memorial? Or does her comment imply she was anti-queen?

It's currently Monday afternoon/evening there.
uziq
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people drink at funerals. it's called a wake. a funeral is a 'celebration of a life' as well as a solemn occasion for mourning.

raising a drink for someone's memory isn't (necessarily) disrespectful.

of course, there's plenty of people in pubs or at home with their feet up who are happy the queen is dead.

it's a national holiday because of the funeral, so perfectly possible to be drinking in honour or dishonour of a monday afternoon.
SuperJail Warden
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Just put her in the tomb already. This has gone on long enough.
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Dauntless
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We don't need much of an excuse to go to the pub.

It's also a bank holiday today so most people aren't working, it's basically a Sunday.
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unnamednewbie13
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Analysts are warning that the few extra days off for all the queen stuff this year could tip UK's economy into another recession. That doesn't seem like a sign of a very resilient economy.

I'm sure I'll hear more about "why did they ever get rid of Boris" from conservatives.
SuperJail Warden
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I heard they cancelled medical appointments and surgeries for the days they are closed up for the Queen. A point conservatives could use to argue against government healthcare if they weren't also talking up how "classy" the queen was. I knew that is where they were going to go. Hate that I was right.
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unnamednewbie13
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Oh no, disconnects don't give them pause in the slightest. Same breath even, if they have the lung capacity.
uziq
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Analysts are warning that the few extra days off for all the queen stuff this year could tip UK's economy into another recession. That doesn't seem like a sign of a very resilient economy.

I'm sure I'll hear more about "why did they ever get rid of Boris" from conservatives.
the UK economy is already in a recession.

‘not a very resilient economy’. lol it’s at 10-15% inflation in the medium term and most workers can’t even bargain for a 5% payrise.

the cost of heating our homes this winter is going to cost £120bn of taxpayer’s money, plus clear out something like the bottom 40%’s entire disposable income and savings to pay the energy companies.

that’s to say nothing of the scores of businesses who face extinction because of the same rising overheads, and a general lack of price caps and legislation which the consumer sector at least notionally enjoys. small and medium size businesses face the axe, all of which is highly conducive to the economy contracting. 

when your working class don’t have any disposable income, when they can’t afford their bills, when food and essentials are blowing up because of inflation, it causes a recession pretty quickly.

NHS queues and waits are due to covid and it’s aftermath. a mixture of 12 years of defunding the health service by conservatives and now post-pandemic burnout and backlogs. NHS workers have not been given a raise over the last few years when they badly need it. a lot of physicians have quit or drastically pulled back their public hours.

the queen dying and workers having one extra day’s holiday is a drop in the bucket. imagine blaming the royal family for a national recession.

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KEN-JENNINGS
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My boss took the day off today to mourn the queen or something. I imagine it's probably just a good reason for her to catch up with her family over in England.
uziq
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i get the impression from friends and acquaintances in the UK that a lot of the last 10 days or so has been a collective opportunity for grieving for those recently lost. as she was the figurehead of the state and body-politic the transference of emotions isn’t exactly so crazed and deluded.

many people lost loved ones in the last 2-3 years who were either of the queen’s generation or at least a link back to an ‘older UK’. you’ll have to remember that even attending the funeral services of your loved ones was strictly not permitted during the worst phases of covid. a lot of people never got to say goodbye or go through rituals of grief. the queen herself, notably, was the only person in attendance at the funeral of her husband.

the sort of mad scenes of people crying in the street make sense when you consider that it might have been the first funeral or acknowledgment of mourning that they’ve even been through themselves since covid.
SuperJail Warden
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I think you are being too charitable to the crying street people. They seem to have the same mental link to a distant God that Trump supporters have over here. Even down to getting dressed up in flag stuff.
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unnamednewbie13
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uziq wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Analysts are warning that the few extra days off for all the queen stuff this year could tip UK's economy into another recession. That doesn't seem like a sign of a very resilient economy.

I'm sure I'll hear more about "why did they ever get rid of Boris" from conservatives.
‘not a very resilient economy’. lol it’s at 10-15% inflation in the medium term and most workers can’t even bargain for a 5% payrise.
I mean in response to the assertion that a few extra days off would crash UK. I also see this kind of argument also employed against expanding vacation time in the states. If someone doesn't think an economy can withstand paying people a little more or giving them some extra time off, then they're not speaking very confidently of that economy.

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uziq
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people are irrational and sad because the representative of their country and the marker of a highly consequential epoch in our nation's history is over.

likening people who are sad about the queen dying to trumpists is retarded.

royalists don't really have a pernicious political ideology. there is none of the ugliness or reactionary political movement around royalists. again, you badly misunderstand the political salience and temperature of these things if you really think that a queen sympathizer is somehow out there campaigning for more absolutism or socially destructive policies.

the conservative government and populist turn of the last 2.5 administrations have much more in common with trumpism than people who are sad about the monarchy. UKIP supporters are our trumpers, right down to the same links to steve bannon and shadowy tech companies and dodgy campaign financing.

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i'm sorry but you're just going to have to accept that people can be shocked and sad when an everyday presence passes on, especially when it's the longest serving monarch in british history. she was ubiquitous and now she's gone. that registers a sort of animal sadness. not frothy-mouthed political extremism like the MAGA nuts.

you are simply off base in your interpretation of this stuff. you seriously need to leave new jersey for a few times in your life if you think european ceremonial heads of state inspire anything like the same feelings as a trump rally.
uziq
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

uziq wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Analysts are warning that the few extra days off for all the queen stuff this year could tip UK's economy into another recession. That doesn't seem like a sign of a very resilient economy.

I'm sure I'll hear more about "why did they ever get rid of Boris" from conservatives.
‘not a very resilient economy’. lol it’s at 10-15% inflation in the medium term and most workers can’t even bargain for a 5% payrise.
I mean in response to the assertion that a few extra days off would crash UK. I also see this kind of argument also employed against expanding vacation time in the states. If someone doesn't think an economy can withstand paying people a little more or giving them some extra time off, then they're not speaking very confidently of that economy.
i see. yes, the UK economy is resilient enough to accept a bank holiday (although of course they take measurable productive hours out of the annual gross).

experiencing months and years of spiralling costs and energy scarcity will give you a recession more handily than a state funeral, however.
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Mac and I live in an America where a company called "Cyber Ninjas" is in political news.
SuperJail Warden
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Let's just split the baby and admit that it all looks very strange to most Americans.
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uziq
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except for the strictly devout anglicans, for whom the queen was also the head of their church, and who are an increasingly tiny minority in the UK, the royal family in general are just mascots of a vague and abstracted 'britishness'. they're not 'a link to a distant God'. people liked the queen because she seemed like a sort of national grandmother, not because she promised to bring them greatness or deliver their political fantasies. the queen was almost assiduously apolitical in her public utterances and statements: she never expressed an opinion on anything, really. hard to think of a more diametrically opposed personality to trump.

because she said so little and avoided controversy so sedulously, people could easily project their feelings onto her of being a kind, sweet old lady. which, i suspect, to a large extent she was – even if she was also the beneficiary of a vast amount of privilege and the head of an institution with some blood on its hands, historically speaking. a steady pair of hands and a main mast during our times of crisis.

if macbeth were kenyan or indian, i could understand his antipathy towards the queen. there's real historical grievances there – although i would add that the general response in those places is one of ambivalence and indifference, not this constant criticism. but he's an american who only seems able to interpret and understand this phenomenon through the lens of celebrity media gossip or, bizarrely, populism. what on earth is a populist royalist?
uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Let's just split the baby and admit that it all looks very strange to most Americans.
you had a state funeral for RBG. now tell me what's strange.

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i bet your average briton couldn't even name a member of our supreme court. as it should be, surely, for anyone not in the legal profession or judiciary. they're not meant to be fucking celebrities.

we didn't even give margaret thatcher a state funeral. national leader for a decade.
SuperJail Warden
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It has been 2 weeks dude. We didn't do 2 weeks of national mourning for RBG.
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SuperJail Warden
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Do you agree that they should just quickly stick Charles in the ground if he died tomorrow or should every monarch get two weeks of mourning?
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