And yet neither you nor uziq have actually seen it so you're both going off sheeplike groupthink.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
It's ludicrous to claim that Cats '19 was just unfairly ganged up on by the bandwagon.
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"The truth about the world, he said, is that anything is possible. Had you not seen it all from birth and thereby bled it of its strangeness it would appear to you for what it is, a hat trick in a medicine show, a fevered dream, a trance bepopulate with chimeras having neither analogue nor precedent, an itinerant carnival, a migratory tentshow whose ultimate destination after many a pitch in many a mudded field is unspeakable and calamitous beyond reckoning.
The universe is no narrow thing and the order within it is not constrained by any latitude in its conception to repeat what exists in one part in any other part. Even in this world more things exist without our knowledge than with it and the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way. For existence has its own order and that no man's mind can compass, that mind itself being but a fact among others."
blood meridian. well known as a very, very bad book.“It's a mystery. A man's at odds to know his mind cause his mind is aught he has to know it with. He can know his heart, but he dont want to. Rightly so. Best not to look in there. It aint the heart of a creature that is bound in the way that God has set for it. You can find meanness in the least of creatures, but when God made man the devil was at his elbow. A creature that can do anything. Make a machine. And a machine to make the machine. And evil that can run itself a thousand years, no need to tend it.”
It promotes criminality and violence.uziq wrote:
i don't think any movie leads people to kill, except for extreme limit cases of deluded and mentally unwell individuals. cf. my remarks about the batman theatre shooting, passim. i don't think christopher nolan is responsible for mass shootings; i think anyone who is compos mentis can consume a work of art with what is called in dramaturgical theory the 'suspension of disbelief' and then return to ordinary life, knowing that what they saw was in fact not reality. art is a reflection upon life, its function is to analyse it: most humans over the mental age of 5 seem able to distinguish between representation and reality.
dilbert enjoys umpteen examples of movies/tv shows that portray violence. he doesn't like the sopranos because he has a chip on his shoulder about 'sophisticates' and doesn't like the idea that smarmy well-educated liberals are 'intellectualizing' over a mobster. it's philistine and reactionary, which is nothing surprising from him. but he consumes any number of media starring less than 'fine and upstanding citizens', and of course he knows it. there would be nothing worth watching without them, for fuck's sake. a drama or plot fundamentally requires a conflict: and where do you get conflict in a world of perfectly well-behaved virtuous citizens?
i am losing IQ even having to explain this.
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*Yeah, no. See previous post. Funny how it's not good enough for us not having seen Cats '19 because of what we know about the original work, play, the writing, commentary from critics, also backed by commentary from writers, artists, musicians, and experts on the genre (iT's GoT tO bE a bAnDwAgOn). But your not having seen Sopranos (which is practically at the opposite end of the critical spectrum), and dunking on it besides, are perfectly fine because you have a gut feeling. Hyper-hypocrisy, dude.Dilbert_X wrote:
And yet neither you nor uziq have actually seen it so you're both going off sheeplike groupthink.*unnamednewbie13 wrote:
It's ludicrous to claim that Cats '19 was just unfairly ganged up on by the bandwagon.
I'm sure The Sopranos has some great acting, that great acting could have been done in a TV show about a decent high-achieving individual who was a useful member of society, not a vicious self-pitying self-serving lowlife who the world would be better off without.
Say what?Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't really care, its small-minded people who can't imagine anything they can't see, or conceive a world different from the one which is in front of them, or situations which haven't already happened.
you do realise how wide a category 'realism' is, right? saving private ryan was 'realistic'.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't really care, its small-minded people who can't imagine anything they can't see, or conceive a world different from the one which is in front of them, or situations which haven't already happened.
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If only you felt the same way about the real world around you dilbert.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't really care, its small-minded people who can't imagine anything they can't see, or conceive a world different from the one which is in front of them, or situations which haven't already happened.
Pretty funny that you don't understand the difference between science fiction and fantasy.uziq wrote:
it's pretty funny that dilbert only values fantasy and things which are 'made up', but then the biggest fantasy writer of the day cites the sopranos.
so a mob drama from 25 years ago is responsible for most malcontent and crime in the world today.
but tv shows representing sheer violence, incest and rape are fine ... if there be dragons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHC1g9dI0U
