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unnamednewbie13
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It's been my experience that for the most part, people are understanding if someone slips up. Most of the pronoun rage right now seems to originate from the anti-crowd and not from fuming trans-lesbians.
SuperJail Warden
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I met the kid. He (chosen pronoun) is super cool. My favorite kid this year.

He came into class totally gothed out. Super goth. He very much still looked his dead gender. He looked miserable. Obese. I used their chosen name but with an A ending instead of o. He corrected me and looked upset.

Later in that class I went over and smiled and talked to him. I told him I got his email and I am super cool with. "Keep correcting me if I get it wrong". The kid said okay and laughed. The kid had a bag with dozens of pins like those punk kid do. BLM and Bernie Sanders etc. I noticed a Cure button and said I loved that band. I asked to take a picture of the bag because of how cool it is. It is super cool. The kid didn't look upset anymore.

On the way out I walked with him a little bit. Since I have an associates degree in White People Studies, I was able to name drop every post-punk and metal band from the 80's. The kid was very happy. I told them on the way out, and I really think I deserve a cookie for coming up with this on the fly, "I may not look like it but I am goth on the inside" The kid laughed and looked happy. I knocked it out of the park.
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I feel like I should buy a lotto ticket. Free hotel room and great students this year.


Seriously
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unnamednewbie13
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Still sad that this stuff gets presented as exceptional feel-good anecdotes and not, you know, business as usual. Country is fucky.

"Today I was a teacher that didn't try and make a student feel like dirt."
SuperJail Warden
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Sad situation. Good thing I am an empathetic and caring person.
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unnamednewbie13
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Except when it comes to bulls, apparently.
SuperJail Warden
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It is my culture. A proud Spanish tradition.
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unnamednewbie13
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flimsy
SuperJail Warden
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If the bulls wanted my pity they need to listen to the Smiths, Joy Division, and the Cure.
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unnamednewbie13
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Have you ever seen those videos of cattle coming up to the fence to listen to bands? They probably would.
SuperJail Warden
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Love will Tear them Apart
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Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I met the kid. He (chosen pronoun) is super cool. My favorite kid this year.
You pandered to a narcissists ego, well done.

How did that make the quiet hard-working kids feel?
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uziq
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a schoolchild as a 'narcissist'. coming from dilbert in which everything in the world must conform to your experience and expectations.

lm fa
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Dilbert_X
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Isn't 'uziq' a non-gendered pro-noun?
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uziq
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imagine calling a pre-teen a 'narcissist' for having the temerity to figure out what their identity is. even if they're mistaken or its a phase, it's hardly narcissistic for a person encountering adolescence to be confused or exploring things.

it's really funny the groups you prefer to punch down on. it reveals a great deal about yourself.

whilst 'um, ackshually'ing and caveating about energy companies' profits and right for the mega-rich to continue business-as-usual.

you parrot all the culture wars bullshit from the media rags and media outlets that they own, all so handsomely.

but you're also really, really smarts! the smartest boi ever! your mummy tells you so every day. doesn't she? yes she does! who's a good boy?

lmao.
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

the temerity to figure out what their identity is. even if they're mistaken or its a phase,
OK
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uziq
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what is wrong with a 14 year old tinkering with a minor part of english grammar? why does this bother you in the slightest? jesus christ. how does it affect your life in ANY way?

i’m an editor. part of the bread-and-butter of my job is about making grammatical prescriptions. i don’t care about pronoun use. if anyone can pretend to have an objective, professional concern about such developments, it’s linguists, editors, grammarians, educators, etc. tellingly, we are not all melting down over this issue. i wonder why?

of all the great threats and ills facing society today, teenagers wearing goth clothes and asking to be called a certain pronoun are not in the top 100.

and yet you spend your time insulting children and pouring odium on overworked and underpaid teachers. lol. you’re really the saviour of civilisation man!

Last edited by uziq (2022-09-08 04:11:21)

Dilbert_X
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Its small-minded tedium, pandering does not help.
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uziq
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it's not small-minded, it's rather important to people who are still settling on their identities, wouldn't you say?

what it IS is something of zero consequence to you. being polite and respectful to someone isn't 'pandering'.

how do you 'pander' to someone's sense of identity? it's their fucking business. lmao. jesus christ you are cracked. it doesn't AFFECT you AT ALL. the only thing it costs you is common courtesy.
Dilbert_X
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Why do they make it so public then?

I'd like to be addressed as Mr-Dilbert-Sir in future.
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SuperJail Warden
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Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

I met the kid. He (chosen pronoun) is super cool. My favorite kid this year.
You pandered to a narcissists ego, well done.

How did that make the quiet hard-working kids feel?
The class is an "at risk" class. They are all there because they aren't quiet and/or hard working. Last stop before dropping out.
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uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Why do they make it so public then?

I'd like to be addressed as Mr-Dilbert-Sir in future.
even in your petulant little counter-arguments you make no sense.

you are already Mr Dilbert. you can pretend to have a knighthood too, if you want, and people will treat you accordingly – which is perhaps for the best, you being an eccentric crank, after all.

why is asking to be called by the correct pronoun or name a 'making it public'? it's a wish for someone to recognise the basics of your identity.

if someone insisted on calling you mrs dilbert and treating you like a woman, when you self-identify as a man, wouldn't you make a point to ask someone to, please, refer to you as Mr?

i swear to god conservatives make no sense on this argument. it's a tiny act of graciousness that costs them nothing. and they're supposedly the ones that range 'values' and christian morality on their side. you're almost pretending that shaping a slightly different syllable when you speak is coming at some great personal cost to yourself.

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SuperJail Warden
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It wasn't a tiny act of graciousness on my part. It was a major turning point and absolved me of all my sins from June to August.

I am pure now.
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uziq
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i mean for the likes of dilbert. i doubt they ever encounter transgender people in their day-to-day life. and about the biggest demand they'll ever make of them is to ask to use the right pronoun and to speak to them like a human being, with some common respect. OMG!!!
Dilbert_X
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An act of graciousness would be for people to not inflict their personal tedium on other people.
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Dilbert_X
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Its very likely I'll never encounter an actual transgender person.

Its equally likely I will encounter someone looking for a way to be the centre of attention.
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