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It's a bit of a pointless injection. If I understand it correctly, Hanukkah isn't exactly a super-important holiday in Jewish tradition, even if it gets puffed up in response to American Christmas. Going directly into a lawsuit to put up a big plastic menorah next to a bunch of Christmas trees is kind of tedious, and again I remember other Jews criticizing the guy for it.

They tried to inject judaism into a christmas display at an airport you gimp.

Considering how much time they spend complaining about the holocaust its amazing they have time to brush their teeth let alone go off on tangents like this.

it's almost as if jews in the US and UK can be critical of israel's actions and not directly responsible for every single lawsuit ever filed.

mind blown !

even some orthodox jews are against zionism ffs.

mainstream 'liberal' jews who are critical of zionism are incredibly common. you will find them in the centre-left commentariat of every US and UK newspaper.

uziq wrote:

imagine being so cucked that you perceive the menorah as a threat to your identity. you see menorahs in windows or living rooms all over the U.K. and europe. a ‘hate symbol’ lmfao.

I don't see it as a threat to my Catholic identity. I was thinking about how Muslims and Middle Eastern youth in America would perceive it.

Menorah = Jews = Israel = Airstrikes on Muslims is the chain of thought I can see someone having when seeing the menorah. And Israel after all is THE Jewish state. Christmas trees on the other hand are part of the Christian identity that made up the foundational base of the country. Jews and Muslims in America are only 1 to 3 percent of the population each. There isn't really a vast group going underrepresented when only Christmas trees are up.

And that whole Menorah = Airstrikes seems ridiculous but different people fundamentally perceive things differently, right? People in Israel probably wouldn't look at a bunch of runes tattoo onto Jay and think 'that guy must be really proud of being Swedish"

Dilbert_X wrote:

Doesn't really happen though, the majority of American jews support Israel.

I think I've posted this before:

Americans Still Favor Israel While Warming to Palestinians
https://news.gallup.com/poll/340331/ame … nians.aspx

Strong support, though with favorable views more common among Republican respondents.

DesertFox- wrote:

I had to go back a page to see how this thread became about the Jews and am still baffled why it took that turn.

People being embarrassed about other people in their group, yeah.

I didn't bring it up "out of the blue," I brought it up to expand on the subject of groups of people being embarrassed about some of their people.

You turned it into an "all of the Jews" thing, dilbs. And also, no. There was commentary from Jews stating that people should be able to *checks notes* enjoy their holidays. Of course there was also concerned about consequences for the Jewish community, that's only human. Leave it to you to push that under a bad light.

Saved the ranty follow-up for a double.

I've been over this sort of thing so many times, I don't really care to entertain it in IRL conversations. The snowflake outrage of people who enjoy calling others snowflakes has all the appeal of an old slice of pie. Delicious and good fun when you first got it, but now thoroughly moldy and belonging in the bin. If OP is kidding around, there are others who don't.

I have to stop myself from interrupting the "did you hear about" spiel on <name a subject> to ask them for their sources and understanding of the context before they can get more than a few words out edgewise. The latest instance, they were complaining about the tastelessness of a covid-19 video game they heard about on the news (the kind of news that carefully cultivates audience outrage; I can't even hate-watch Fox because it's like a mood grenade). They, who go on to watch fatal collisions on the internet and hung so leeringly onto the apocalypse porn of the last year+.

Supposedly educated people, who carry themselves as well read, high brow, who think things like "critical thinking" is liberal or academic propaganda or whatever. And when you agree with them on like one unrelated or barely relevant thing they're all like "aha, see you're coming around now." Coming around to what exactly? Your sudden strong opinions on epidemiology (screw those scientists!), a subject I haven't heard you haven't expressing any interest in for the past 25 years or so? I guess the conspiracy theory dopamine rush is strong stuff.

Anyway my feelings here aren't exactly going to be news to anyone who's ever read a post of mine on this sort of thing. Just not really much I can do that won't be counterproductive. It's like being The Foil reinforces their bulwark.

Yeah, I've answered that too. The thing is, I don't bring it up most of the time, and if I just brush them off it could damage quite a few various relationships. Not worth, and besides not being able to work with people with differing viewpoints about this (usually unrelated) stuff seems pretty weaksauce.

Of course I can think to myself that their argument is absolutely retarded, but it's kinder to vent about that under the anonymity of an aughts video game forum than to their face. Probably the harshest I've ever been was when I deconstructed an awful political meme I was emailed before learning that the person who sent it to me made it. Oh well, welcome to the internet.

Some of the people I work with were programmed by Ayn Rand or 90s talk radio. Or both. They kind of ping off each other too.

e: frustrating conversations, but does provide some insight into different groups of people

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Have you just tried not talking to these people ?

Try "ha ha yeah" now and then. When that gets stale "yeah ha ha".
In extreme cases "if I knew the answer to that do you think I'd be working here?"

My hearing is damaged and I couldn't understand the accents of half the people if I could hear them, some anodyne response placates them most of the time.