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uziq
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take another pill macbeth.
Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Australia is a bit different, immigrants are expected to integrate or fuck off. If they start throwing their weight around they get stomped on pretty hard.
I have little sympathy for the Australian aboriginals. Did they build anything there before the Europeans showed up?

Did they build any Pyramids? Did they eat people? You are allowed to eat people if you build pyramids to do it at.

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Theory is that they were part of the same wave of homo sapiens which left Africa, but Australia being an ancient continent has meant all the micronutrients have been washed out of the land so they ended up dumb.
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uziq
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and the south american indians were naturally inferior to the spanish conquistadors, it has nothing to do with the fact of their mountainous terrain and lack of an animal equivalent to a horse or bull (certainly not llamas or alpacas) which could be used in large-scale agrarian work.

the white man is god's most perfect work.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Australia is a bit different, immigrants are expected to integrate or fuck off. If they start throwing their weight around they get stomped on pretty hard.
I have little sympathy for the Australian aboriginals. Did they build anything there before the Europeans showed up?

Did they build any Pyramids? Did they eat people? You are allowed to eat people if you build pyramids to do it at.

TODO: FIX GAL IMAGES
Theory is that they were part of the same wave of homo sapiens which left Africa, but Australia being an ancient continent has meant all the micronutrients have been washed out of the land so they ended up dumb.
That's eugenics, dilbert
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

check the link i posted to the australian gov website. it has a good history of multiculturalism and the different models of assimilation, the french model, the german model, the australian model, etc. it's exactly what i was saying in response to jay earlier, that to say 'multiculturalism' in any way 'aims' to create ethnic ghettos is just wrong. my preferred interpretation is the french model, where everyone is simultaneously a citizen and equal in public life, but has a private sphere in which the state/public have no say with regards to their preferred religion/dress/language/etc. it's integration without forcing people to give up the customs which form their original identity.
Australia is a bit different, immigrants are expected to integrate or fuck off. If they start throwing their weight around they get stomped on pretty hard.
There are other surveys which show Australians expect people to keep their religion and views to themselves.

The last three elections have been won on platforms of blocking bogus refugees, crimping immigration and stripping foreign born criminals of their citizenship, and lately of blocking ISIS fighters from returning.

Australia has been very lucky in not having a major terrorist attack, many have been stopped in the late stages. If and when it happens there will be a backlash.
none of which contradicts my point. 88% of australians consider multiculturalism a net-benefit and an asset to your society. aren't you the one who's a little out-of-touch with 'the common people', to whom you appeal so much, on this issue?

my point has been there are many forms multiculturalism can be implemented, it's not all destined to fail based on some essentialist-racial doctrine that you seem to espouse. with meaningful work opportunities, available housing stock, proper urban planning, etc, it can be a success. for contingent policy-based reasons, in other words, not because of your grandstanding narratives about 'white civilization' and 'trojan horse immigrants'.
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To be fair our indigenous can't hold a candle to everyone elses. Embarrassing. Nice cultural shows though.
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uziq wrote:

none of which contradicts my point. 88% of australians consider multiculturalism a net-benefit and an asset to your society. aren't you the one who's a little out-of-touch with 'the common people', to whom you appeal so much, on this issue?

my point has been there are many forms multiculturalism can be implemented, it's not all destined to fail based on some essentialist-racial doctrine that you seem to espouse. with meaningful work opportunities, available housing stock, proper urban planning, etc, it can be a success. for contingent policy-based reasons, in other words, not because of your grandstanding narratives about 'white civilization' and 'trojan horse immigrants'.
Would it be progress to replace Australian 'multiculturalism' with Chinese or muslim 'multiculturalism'?
I suspect it wouldn't, hence the average Australian is fine with sticking with their version at the risk of being called racist.
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Larssen wrote:

That's eugenics, dilbert
No its evolution.
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Larssen
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You keep insinuating that China is some monoethnic state. Regardless of the behaviour of the state there's more than 30 different ethnic groups. Considering the situations in Tibet, Xinjiang, Hongkong and inner mongolia, it's reasonable to state that the Chinese policy of assimilation isn't that great or going all that well.

Also, muslim covers hundreds of ethnic groups. I'd say the religion of Islam is very multicultural and has been very succesful in different cultural and ethnic contexts.

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uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

none of which contradicts my point. 88% of australians consider multiculturalism a net-benefit and an asset to your society. aren't you the one who's a little out-of-touch with 'the common people', to whom you appeal so much, on this issue?

my point has been there are many forms multiculturalism can be implemented, it's not all destined to fail based on some essentialist-racial doctrine that you seem to espouse. with meaningful work opportunities, available housing stock, proper urban planning, etc, it can be a success. for contingent policy-based reasons, in other words, not because of your grandstanding narratives about 'white civilization' and 'trojan horse immigrants'.
Would it be progress to replace Australian 'multiculturalism' with Chinese or muslim 'multiculturalism'?
I suspect it wouldn't, hence the average Australian is fine with sticking with their version at the risk of being called racist.
what are you talking about? none of those countries are even talking about being multicultural.

australia self-advertises a version of multiculturalism, evidently one that 88% of people are happy with and consider a success, at least by the last national survey. sorry but your vision of the country being one hair's breadth away from massive race riots and pogroms seems to be your usual racist fantasy.
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Larssen wrote:

That's eugenics, dilbert
No its evolution.
evolutionary science has absolutely nothing to say about aboriginals versus whites. more pseudo-science from the 19th century, as per usual.
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uziq wrote:

and the south american indians were naturally inferior to the spanish conquistadors, it has nothing to do with the fact of their mountainous terrain and lack of an animal equivalent to a horse or bull (certainly not llamas or alpacas) which could be used in large-scale agrarian work.

the white man is god's most perfect work.
The Aztec and Maya did have large scale agriculture. Anyone saying they didn't because they didn't have horses is relying too much on that one book. You can't have large cities without agriculture.

The thing that led to the downfall of both was diseases the Europeans brought over which would be an evolutionary or biological issue.

Definitely nothing for the Europeans to brag about though. "We got diseased so hard diseases stopped working". Okay, pig people.

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uziq
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i didn't say they didn't have agriculture. obviously they had food supplies big enough for large cities. my point was they didn't have any animals that they could yoke or harness, or load up, and use for vastly improved labour. before the steam-engine it was horsepower that did most of europe's work.

we pulled ahead for many, many reasons, and that is only a tiny part of it, of course. i was mostly being facetious. those entire x>y discussions are really facile.

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uziq wrote:

what are you talking about? none of those countries are even talking about being multicultural.
Exactly, and yet we're called racists for rejecting their invasion and imposition of their monoculture.
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uziq
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i don't follow your reasoning at all. democracies are meant to be better, more prosperous, more free, better places to live for the very reason that they aren't china.

but you perceive it as unjust that they have more relaxed cultural codes and wider ethnic variety than china?

so you're not going to accept migrant workers, or multi-faith societies, because china won't?

meanwhile, china is imposing their monoculture on western democracies?

what the fuck are you going on about.

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Dilbert_X
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China is pushing their mono-culture across asia.
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uziq
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deluded. evidence?
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uziq
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right. china really pushing its mono-culture across asia, there. making a claim to a highly contested area of the sea, their only access to the world's oceans, which is encircled by american bases.

and setting up institutes to influence universities with funding money and ideas. oh no!!! the monoculture is coming! everyone has already critiqued the confucian institutes to death. hardly the great yellow peril is it? there's far more russian and saudi money in western institutions, working their influence.

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SuperJail Warden
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I am surprised Dilbert doesn't support China due to it being the only rival to the Jew infiltrated U.S. government.
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Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren on Thursday decried an Arizona bill that would prevent biological males from competing in girls sports, calling the legislation “cruel.”

“Trans athletes are not a threat,” Warren wrote in a tweet. “We need to protect trans kids—and all LGBTQ+ kids—and ensure they feel safe and welcomed at school. I urge the Arizona legislature to reject this cruel bill.”

The “Save Women’s Sports Act” would assign high-school students to interscholastic and intramural leagues by their “biological sex” rather than the gender with which they identify, grouping biological females together and likewise for biological males.
Ace of Spades Warren at it again. What a fail candidate.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren on Thursday decried an Arizona bill that would prevent biological males from competing in girls sports, calling the legislation “cruel.”

“Trans athletes are not a threat,” Warren wrote in a tweet. “We need to protect trans kids—and all LGBTQ+ kids—and ensure they feel safe and welcomed at school. I urge the Arizona legislature to reject this cruel bill.”

The “Save Women’s Sports Act” would assign high-school students to interscholastic and intramural leagues by their “biological sex” rather than the gender with which they identify, grouping biological females together and likewise for biological males.
Ace of Spades Warren at it again. What a fail candidate.
i predict the codifying of gender by conservatives, followed by a push to reverse this by democrats, followed inevitably by the same conservatives decrying the democrats for trying to codify gender rights.

In 10 years Macbeth will be excoriating people who don't support gender rights
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You know what is the most gay genre of music for men to listen to? Metal. The most straight? Pop music.

Like why would you want to listen to a guy scream or talk about angry stuff when you can listen to a young woman talk about love and partying? Give me that Lady Gaga and not these gays
https://www.metalkingdom.net/band/img/2018/08/13183.jpg
Same thing with guy time and male bonding. Fuck all that. I rather do drugs alone. Why would I want to go to your basement bar if you aren't bringing girls over, James? Hang out with your other guy friends? Fuck that I will vape and watch porn instead. Good stuff.
uziq
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i agree that metal, like going to sports bars with your guy friends to drink beer, is very homoerotic. not necessarily a bad thing, just it's tedious when the same guys talk so much about 'fags'. it's ironic and sad that so many obviously gay metal musicians and frontmen had to stay closeted because of very weird and very hypocritical homophobia in the metal community. talk about a displacement activity.

metal is like ancient greek warriors combing and braiding their hair in between battles. very queer. guy's only bonding really is just so gay. i only ever do that when i'm on stag dos and women are expressly barred for the purpose. nights out aren't even inviting to me if there isn't some female company, for conversation if nothing else.

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SuperJail Warden
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

You know what is the most gay genre of music for men to listen to? Metal. The most straight? Pop music.

Like why would you want to listen to a guy scream or talk about angry stuff when you can listen to a young woman talk about love and partying? Give me that Lady Gaga and not these gays
TODO: FIX GAL IMAGES
Same thing with guy time and male bonding. Fuck all that. I rather do drugs alone. Why would I want to go to your basement bar if you aren't bringing girls over, James? Hang out with your other guy friends? Fuck that I will vape and watch porn instead. Good stuff.
What are your thoughts, Jay?

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