BF2S Forums EE Chats: New Testaments

Finray wrote:

ahh, free education

suck it, yanks

Nothing is free.

Wow, look at these two economists. No shit. It comes out of taxes.


College should be free for nurses, doctors, dentist, social workers, teachers and other vital groups.

For everyone else, it should be affordable. A student should be able to pay for their accounting, business, history, Chinese, etc. degrees working part time like they used to in the 70's.

RTHKI wrote:

or just make it free for everyone

"free"

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Wow, look at these two economists. No shit. It comes out of taxes.


College should be free for nurses, doctors, dentist, social workers, teachers and other vital groups.

For everyone else, it should be affordable. A student should be able to pay for their accounting, business, history, Chinese, etc. degrees working part time like they used to in the 70's.

I dunno man. I agree in principle that certain "vital groups" should be made to be able to attain affordable education in order to ensure that the best of the best end up in these roles (not hindered by finances), but I also think you need to realize that these professions are generally high paying (apart from a couple mentioned), and therefore have the most ability to repay their student debt. For this reason I don't know that free education for "vital groups" is really a great policy choice. It's not terribly progressive.

Last edited by Pocshy2.0 (2015-09-28 11:59:57)

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Pocshy2.0 wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Wow, look at these two economists. No shit. It comes out of taxes.


College should be free for nurses, doctors, dentist, social workers, teachers and other vital groups.

For everyone else, it should be affordable. A student should be able to pay for their accounting, business, history, Chinese, etc. degrees working part time like they used to in the 70's.

I dunno man. I agree in principle that certain "vital groups" should be made to be able to attain affordable education in order to ensure that the best of the best end up in these roles (not hindered by finances), but I also think you need to realize that these professions are generally high paying (apart from a couple mentioned), and therefore have the most ability to repay their student debt. For this reason I don't know that free education for "vital groups" is really a great policy choice. It's not terribly progressive.

I think the high pay may come from the cost and time for getting an education. I am sure the pay would probably drop if anyone could take a shot at being a nurse. Too many nurses might end up being made.

Nah dude. If it's anything like here in Canada the number of class spots is restricted by each professional organization, which drives up wages. Otherwise, why wouldn't school be pumping out 1000s of MDs to cash in on those 75k tuition fees?

Last edited by Pocshy2.0 (2015-09-28 12:13:39)

winter breaks would make more sense in the north

facebook is down for me

Probably referring to the quotas part.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Pocshy2.0 wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

It defeats the purpose if we let some professional union put quotas.


How do you people feel about summer breaks? I think for K-12, school should be year round.

It's posts like this that assure me you've never done anything but troll.

Wait what?

You just pitch provocative ideas rapid fire without ever really defending them. I think you're just getting a rise out of seeing us debate what you know to be mostly absurd ideas.

EDIT-  with that said, it's one of the few things keeping this site going.

Last edited by Pocshy2.0 (2015-09-28 13:05:23)

awesome, should probably be 2 hrs for the 3 months of summer.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2015-09-28 13:52:01)

Pocshy2.0 wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Pocshy2.0 wrote:

It's posts like this that assure me you've never done anything but troll.

Wait what?

You just pitch provocative ideas rapid fire without ever really defending them. I think you're just getting a rise out of seeing us debate what you know to be mostly absurd ideas.

EDIT-  with that said, it's one of the few things keeping this site going.

I enjoy everyone's input. Take it to Debate and Series Talk Chat if you want a debate.

Pocshy2.0 wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Pocshy2.0 wrote:

You just pitch provocative ideas rapid fire without ever really defending them. I think you're just getting a rise out of seeing us debate what you know to be mostly absurd ideas.

EDIT-  with that said, it's one of the few things keeping this site going.

I enjoy everyone's input. Take it to Debate and Series Talk Chat if you want a debate.

Nah, might run into Jay trying to flex over there. Better to stay in shallow waters.

His idea was stupid because everything he listed doesn't actually require college, but instead can be learned in trade schools. He's stuck in his "college is for getting a white collar job" mentality.

College is supposed to do nothing of the sort. It's only been bastardized in recent years and marketed to the public in order to drive up enrollment. No one NEEDS a real classical college education, it's a fucking luxury. You need it as much as you need an Apple iWatch.

Also, his, and any, list would be entirely arbitrary.

Last edited by Jay (2015-09-28 14:59:47)