DrunkFace
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

"Hillary got more voters than Bernie. Some people are saying it's because Jews are untrustworthy. I'm not saying it. But some people are saying it. Hillary got more votes." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You know who decides elections? independents.
You know who couldn't vote in most of the primaries? independents.
You know who Clinton polls terribly with? independents.

But you are correct, Clinton won the Democratic primary, doesn't make it the correct choice. And you can bet your life that if the US cared even slightly about democracy and had preferential ballots then a monkey could run as an independent and crush the 2 worst candidates to ever be put up by the major parties.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

Such great options we're now left with

Shit vs shit
The US Presidential election is like that every time.
Not like this though.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

Such great options we're now left with

Shit vs shit
The US Presidential election is like that every time.
Not like this though.
fuck, i never ever thought i'd agree with the mormon moderator.









































shit.
SuperJail Warden
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Can't believe we had a Mormon candidate before we had a woman. What will be next?
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Dilbert_X
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Your country is beholden to jews and Christian extremists - its surprising all your candidates aren't Mormons.
They all have to swear allegiance to Israel however.
Fuck Israel
SuperJail Warden
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Mormons aren't Christians though. The Jewish media is strong here though. I agree 100%.
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unnamednewbie13
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Steve-0 wrote:

fuck, i never ever thought i'd agree with the mormon moderator.
I almost forgot that I spent 12-ish years of childhood Sundays in that church. You're like my private secretary. This must be what being in the 1% feels like.

But really, all the early stuff is just Sunday school taught by clueless blockheads and their pamphlet lesson plans. Ask inconvenient questions and get sent to the bishop's office to be chewed out. Just like regular school. I thank my lucky stars my family wasn't into scientology. Horror stories of sea org.

Also, I don't particularly feel like voting for Hillary or Trump. Maybe I'll write in Vermin Supreme.
SuperJail Warden
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Donald Trump seemed to repeatedly accuse President Obama on Monday of identifying with radicalized Muslims who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States and being complicit in the mass shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando over the weekend, the worst the country has ever seen.

"Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. "And the something else in mind — you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

In that same interview, Trump was asked to explain why he called for Obama to resign in light of the shooting and he answered, in part: "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands — it's one or the other, and either one is unacceptable."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos … ?tid=sm_tw

christ. a lot of people agree with him too
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Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Donald Trump seemed to repeatedly accuse President Obama on Monday of identifying with radicalized Muslims who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States and being complicit in the mass shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando over the weekend, the worst the country has ever seen.

"Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. "And the something else in mind — you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

In that same interview, Trump was asked to explain why he called for Obama to resign in light of the shooting and he answered, in part: "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands — it's one or the other, and either one is unacceptable."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos … ?tid=sm_tw

christ. a lot of people agree with him too
On some level, he's right. The whole us vs them thing has led liberals (and conservatives) to take up some stupid positions. In this case, it's the knee-jerk liberal response to defend all muslims because they're the oppressed minority being targeted by "old white men".

Islam has a very real problem. I'm not saying that they're all bad people, by any means, but members of the group keep going on rampages that kill a lot of people. Yes, occasionally we have a deranged Christian going nuts like that guy did on the Sikhs, but it's not nearly as often. I don't have any answers. It's impossible to wage war on belief with force, it just makes the believer more stubborn and fanatical.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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take the islam stuff to another thread. i am talking about trumps hurtful and untimely comment about the president.
During an appearance on the "Today" show later Monday morning, Savannah Guthrie pushed Trump to explain what he meant in the earlier interview.

"Well there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it," Trump said. "A lot of people think maybe he doesn't want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn't know what he's doing, but there are many people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it. He doesn't want to see what's really happening. And that could be."
that is way over the line.
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War Man
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If the President was hurt by Trump's comment, he has other things to worry about.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Ty
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Trump's 70th birthday today. Happy birthday you dangerously insane man.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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i like how trump uses "many people" and "everybody agrees" when it is clear he has surrounded himself with yes men and probably has no fucking clue what is going on outside his little orange-manicured bubble.
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He also surrounds himself with personal "African-Americans."
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http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news … s-20160603

Mike Judge and Etan Cohen, the director and writer behind the 2006 cult comedy Idiocracy, have reteamed to pen a series of anti-Donald Trump campaign ads starring the film's wrestler-turned-president, played by Terry Crews.

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Fuck Israel
SuperJail Warden
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How do you Bernie supporters feel about Sanders acting like a petulant sore loser scumbag and refusing to quit despite losing? How can you stand by a guy who puts his own ego above the good of the party and country? Typical greedy hymie putting his wants above the greater good.

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DesertFox-
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Most politicians who do things for "the good of the party" can fuck right off, and remaining in the race isn't hurting anything since Clinton is largely ignoring him anyway. You were echoing the hollow criticism early in the season of "he's not even a real Democrat" despite being fully aware that you currently can't be president in this day and age if you're not a Democrat or Republican. 

Clinton by and large won the votes of the party line Democrat members. Sanders was much more popular amongst independents and people who will vote Democratic but aren't card-carrying party members. The majority of people aren't 100% of the time Republican or Democratic voters, and those are the people the candidates should be courting. Millennials as well are less likely to identify as party members, but are also generally more liberal than your average American. Oddly, a lot of Republicans who were supporters of Trumps erstwhile foes are now falling behind him with the "I abhor him, but he's still got my vote" reasoning. However, that has by and large not happened on the Democratic side. The Clinton campaign has made the "lesser of two evils" variety or argument, but many independents see her as equally as unpleasant, if not moreso than Trump, hence why you've heard some people who said if Sanders didn't get the nomination they would vote for Trump (though I don't have any clue how people can justify that in their heads by jumping between two vastly different agendas).

The election is largely all for Clinton to lose. Based on trends, Democrats have only a short distance to go in the electoral college to secure the election, and both parties should be scrambling to scoop up those non-identified voters. Trump is yuuuuge for the uninformed voter though, which does pose a threat that should be considered.I have heard a lot of Sanders supporters who will not vote for her unless she commits to some progressive goals. As for me, Indiana will be a red state so whatever I do is inconsequential.
SuperJail Warden
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That is the longest post you ever made and you wasted it being bitter about your favorite Yid not winning. It's funny that you talked about Bernie's widespread appeal despite Clinton's coalition crushing Sanders in the wider democrat demographics. Bernie Sanders, so popular he couldn't get blacks, Hispanics, and women to vote for him at all! Maybe a sheeny talking about redistributing wealth doesn't inspire people as much as you think.

Your state went blue in '08? You should know better than to think your vote doesn't matter. But however you manage to justify not voting for the right side of history is fine by me. But you sound spoiled and pretentious. Elections aren't a test of your moral fiber.
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DesertFox-
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What's with the slurs, dude? It's not helping your argument. I'm not bitter, just not enthused for at best another 4 years of obstructionist strongly partisan politics instead of working to reverse the gridlock over every single thing, no matter how inconsequential.

Furthermore, I didn't say anything of the sort that Sanders had widsepread appeal. I stated how he was the strong favorite amongst independent voters whereas Clinton was favored amonst your rank-and-file Democratic party member. The demographics of his supporters are largely, but not limited to, young people, those who lean further to the left than the Democratic platform, and are mostly white. It was going to be a hard fight for him to win the nomination from the start, but it's incorrect for you to assume it was a ROFLstomp seeing how he was polling at 3% months ago nobody took him as a serious contender, but then he went on to win numerous states.

Another phenomenon that was observed was multiple problems inherent in the primary systems to the extent that people in bother parties were wishing they had the system of their opponent. Republican candidates were dissatisfied with winner-take-all states that allowed Trump to gain a commanding lead in delegates while they received jack shit because they did not come in first overall. Democratic candidates (let's be honest, except Clinton) were frustrated by superdelegates and other quirks and rules that meant even if they won, they could potentially earn less delegates than the person in second or third.

I know Indiana went blue in 2008. Even my parents voted for Obama because of Palin poisoning McCains ticket. You'll recall, however, that it did not in 2012. Clinton is not 2008 Barack Obama. I'd be very pleased if we no longer had the electoral college, because as I stated, by and large my vote will not matter to the overall result. Unfortunately, we do have that system and first-past-the-post voting as well, so I will vote for the candidate I like, not the candidate I least dislike.
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no clue why Macbeth is a hardline Hillary supporter.  The only thing I can think of is that she has an interventionist and aggressive foreign policy position. 

DesertFox was and still is a pretty center-left poster and was making valuable contributions before you joined this site as something other than m8v2.
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I've heard Macbeth's slurs in their original German.
uziq
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why is macbeth suddenly being virulently anti-semitic? unstable guy
SuperJail Warden
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I am not anti-Semitic. I am anti-Bernie. If you can't tell the difference, that is on you.

I have yet to hear one good reason he shouldn't drop out of the race. Got one, Bernie Bots?
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uziq
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right. you don't need to use three anti-semitic remarks in a discussion of a guy's campaign strategy then, do you?
KEN-JENNINGS
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I am not anti-Semitic. I am anti-Bernie. If you can't tell the difference, that is on you.

I have yet to hear one good reason he shouldn't drop out of the race. Got one, Bernie Bots?
to affect change at the Democratic Convention.  Technically the delegates he won are his until they vote on an official nominee, so he does have the ability to somewhat steer the discussion of future party platform at the Democratic Convention.

That's the logic.  You know this, but your virulent hatred for the guy clouds rational thought for you, it seems.  You're literally following the Trump (read: ignorant) playbook by resorting to insults when describing someone you loathe.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

good old whataboutism. bernie is obviously not the man he presented himself to be. of course a jewish family would commit bank fraud.
Mac "i'm not anti-semitic" beth

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