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2016-04-18 07:27:00
Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:


i know of zero universities that charge their STEM undergraduates lab fees.
Must be an American thing
That's pretty shitty. over here we just have a flat course fee.
Why? I think it's fair to pay more if I'm using the resources.
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2016-04-18 07:29:59
Jay
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DrunkFace wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Jay wrote:

Must be an American thing
That's pretty shitty. over here we just have a flat course fee.
But STEM course are in general more expensive.

3: Law, Accounting, Administration, Economics, Commerce, Medicine    $10,440
2: Mathematics, Statistics, Science, Computing, Built Environment, Other Health, Allied Health, Engineering Surveying    $8,917
1: Humanities, Behavioural Science, Social Studies, Clinical Psychology, Foreign Languages, Visual and Performing Arts, Education $6,256
Cost shown is the annual student contribution amount for 1 Equivalent Full-Time Student Load

Also Jay, is it $150 every time you have a lab like 1lab a week = $150, 2 a week = $300, 10 in a semester =$1500 or $150 a semester for a subject with labs?
I looked it up and I was incorrect. It was $65 per lab course, not $150.

Yeah but the most labs I ever had in a semester was 2 or 3. An extra $130-$195 is not that much when you're already paying $4,000 for the semester. All sorts of fees get tacked on: technology fees (computers and IT), student activities (sports and clubs), meal plan etc.

Last edited by Jay (2016-04-18 07:31:50)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2016-04-18 08:42:49
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


That's pretty shitty. over here we just have a flat course fee.
But STEM course are in general more expensive.

3: Law, Accounting, Administration, Economics, Commerce, Medicine    $10,440
2: Mathematics, Statistics, Science, Computing, Built Environment, Other Health, Allied Health, Engineering Surveying    $8,917
1: Humanities, Behavioural Science, Social Studies, Clinical Psychology, Foreign Languages, Visual and Performing Arts, Education $6,256
Cost shown is the annual student contribution amount for 1 Equivalent Full-Time Student Load

Also Jay, is it $150 every time you have a lab like 1lab a week = $150, 2 a week = $300, 10 in a semester =$1500 or $150 a semester for a subject with labs?
I looked it up and I was incorrect. It was $65 per lab course, not $150.

Yeah but the most labs I ever had in a semester was 2 or 3. An extra $130-$195 is not that much when you're already paying $4,000 for the semester. All sorts of fees get tacked on: technology fees (computers and IT), student activities (sports and clubs), meal plan etc.
And to think they were all paid by the federal government.
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2016-04-18 15:19:30
Cybargs
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

That's pretty shitty. over here we just have a flat course fee.
But STEM course are in general more expensive.


Cost shown is the annual student contribution amount for 1 Equivalent Full-Time Student Load

Also Jay, is it $150 every time you have a lab like 1lab a week = $150, 2 a week = $300, 10 in a semester =$1500 or $150 a semester for a subject with labs?
I looked it up and I was incorrect. It was $65 per lab course, not $150.

Yeah but the most labs I ever had in a semester was 2 or 3. An extra $130-$195 is not that much when you're already paying $4,000 for the semester. All sorts of fees get tacked on: technology fees (computers and IT), student activities (sports and clubs), meal plan etc.
And to think they were all paid by the federal government.
omg shut the fuck up macbeth.

Jay: ah not too bad then. But just seemed weird you get charged an extra lab fee that's all. As I said earlier, in aussieland our degrees are charged by a formula based off future income and costs of running the degree. All research degrees are freeeeeeeeeeeee though.
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2016-04-21 07:07:43
SuperJail Warden
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Sander supporters are being pretty stupid by trying to tear down Hillary even though she is 100% getting the nomination now. Sanders is being despicable himself for not pulling out. Like I said before, he is an opportunist.
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2016-04-22 11:02:00
CC-Marley
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Despicable? Without the super delegates it's still close race. Hillary still has the FBI to worry about too... She's lucky Biden decided not to run...
2016-04-22 11:34:59
SuperJail Warden
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He needs to win 70% of pledged delegates in the next primaries to get the nomination even if super delegates aren't counted. It is impossible baring a Clinton personal catastrophe. The longer he drags this out, he hurts the democrats. Of course he doesn't care. His unscrupulous ass just became one after how many years independent?
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2016-04-22 11:43:01
KEN-JENNINGS
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despicable and unscrupulous.  I think you have the wrong democratic candidate
2016-04-22 12:13:07
SuperJail Warden
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Clinton is ambitious and reasonable. I was a O'Malley supporter anyway. Jim Webb was also nice.
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2016-04-22 12:21:00
KEN-JENNINGS
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i don't understand how hillary is getting a pass in the media for embracing the whole "i'm a woman, woman need to vote for me" platform while being an absolute cunt to any woman who accused her husband of sexual misconduct when he was in office.  It's insanity.

Hillary Clinton is a power hungry bitch with no serious platform or policy other than "get me elected".  Bernie Sanders has decades of fighting for the same things his platform covers.  He actually has a record of supporting the things he talks about - and the record doesn't go back 5 years, it goes back to the '60s.  It's rare in American politics.
2016-04-22 12:33:57
DrunkFace
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Shes getting a pass because the media is a major contributor to clinton and they are shit scared of bernie winning.
2016-04-22 12:36:11
KEN-JENNINGS
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b-b-but i thought the media is full of left-leaning progressive socialists?
2016-04-22 13:13:40
SuperJail Warden
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

i don't understand how hillary is getting a pass in the media for embracing the whole "i'm a woman, woman need to vote for me" platform while being an absolute cunt to any woman who accused her husband of sexual misconduct when he was in office.  It's insanity.

Hillary Clinton is a power hungry bitch with no serious platform or policy other than "get me elected".  Bernie Sanders has decades of fighting for the same things his platform covers.  He actually has a record of supporting the things he talks about - and the record doesn't go back 5 years, it goes back to the '60s.  It's rare in American politics.
Give me a fucking break. All Bernie has is plans to provide more middle class welfare. There is nothing else to the man. He didn't have opinions on half of the issues until someone in his campaign told him he can't win on simply giving free shit to the middle class. He could not even explain how he planned to do any of that when asked for specifics.

Hillary has been a part of making policy since the 90's. She has actually been a part of governments and in the middle of politics while Bernie was off being a fringe independent socialist. Bernie only became a democrat to try to get elected. And what did he ever even get done in the Senate? At least Clinton almost got healthcare reform going.

I despise him and what he stands for.
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2016-04-22 14:20:58
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

b-b-but i thought the media is full of left-leaning progressive socialists?
No, they're all limousine liberals just like Clinton. She is the establishment.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2016-04-22 14:23:03
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

i don't understand how hillary is getting a pass in the media for embracing the whole "i'm a woman, woman need to vote for me" platform while being an absolute cunt to any woman who accused her husband of sexual misconduct when he was in office.  It's insanity.

Hillary Clinton is a power hungry bitch with no serious platform or policy other than "get me elected".  Bernie Sanders has decades of fighting for the same things his platform covers.  He actually has a record of supporting the things he talks about - and the record doesn't go back 5 years, it goes back to the '60s.  It's rare in American politics.
Give me a fucking break. All Bernie has is plans to provide more middle class welfare. There is nothing else to the man. He didn't have opinions on half of the issues until someone in his campaign told him he can't win on simply giving free shit to the middle class. He could not even explain how he planned to do any of that when asked for specifics.

Hillary has been a part of making policy since the 90's. She has actually been a part of governments and in the middle of politics while Bernie was off being a fringe independent socialist. Bernie only became a democrat to try to get elected. And what did he ever even get done in the Senate? At least Clinton almost got healthcare reform going.

I despise him and what he stands for.
She's pretty near the top of the list of the worst people on the planet. You'd recognize that if you weren't as twisted as her.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2016-04-22 14:24:38
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

i don't understand how hillary is getting a pass in the media for embracing the whole "i'm a woman, woman need to vote for me" platform while being an absolute cunt to any woman who accused her husband of sexual misconduct when he was in office.  It's insanity.

Hillary Clinton is a power hungry bitch with no serious platform or policy other than "get me elected".  Bernie Sanders has decades of fighting for the same things his platform covers.  He actually has a record of supporting the things he talks about - and the record doesn't go back 5 years, it goes back to the '60s.  It's rare in American politics.
Give me a fucking break. All Bernie has is plans to provide more middle class welfare. There is nothing else to the man. He didn't have opinions on half of the issues until someone in his campaign told him he can't win on simply giving free shit to the middle class. He could not even explain how he planned to do any of that when asked for specifics.

Hillary has been a part of making policy since the 90's. She has actually been a part of governments and in the middle of politics while Bernie was off being a fringe independent socialist. Bernie only became a democrat to try to get elected. And what did he ever even get done in the Senate? At least Clinton almost got healthcare reform going.

I despise him and what he stands for.
She's pretty near the top of the list of the worst people on the planet. You'd recognize that if you weren't as twisted as her.
Explain what she did.
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2016-04-22 14:25:56
SuperJail Warden
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For such S free thinker Jay you sure did manage to be convinced by 20 years of right wing propaganda
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2016-04-22 14:33:21
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:


Give me a fucking break. All Bernie has is plans to provide more middle class welfare. There is nothing else to the man. He didn't have opinions on half of the issues until someone in his campaign told him he can't win on simply giving free shit to the middle class. He could not even explain how he planned to do any of that when asked for specifics.

Hillary has been a part of making policy since the 90's. She has actually been a part of governments and in the middle of politics while Bernie was off being a fringe independent socialist. Bernie only became a democrat to try to get elected. And what did he ever even get done in the Senate? At least Clinton almost got healthcare reform going.

I despise him and what he stands for.
She's pretty near the top of the list of the worst people on the planet. You'd recognize that if you weren't as twisted as her.
Explain what she did.
The naked ambition. The obvious zero fucks given about anyone but herself. Everything about her is cold and calculating. Every time she does a press release it feels like focus grouped drivel.

She ran for Senate in my state because she wanted a high profile springboard even though she'd never lived here and didn't know anything about the state. She used us. Zero fucks given.

She's a warmonger that had us bombing Libya and wanted to bomb Syria. Worked out well.

She's just sleaze. If she were a guy her equivalent would be  Anthony Weiner. Surprising that Weiner's wife is on her staff?

She's a sociopath.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2016-04-22 14:36:00
pirana6
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she should choose debbie schultz as her VP. that plus a run against trump would make the voter turn out about 3%
2016-04-22 14:39:50
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


She's pretty near the top of the list of the worst people on the planet. You'd recognize that if you weren't as twisted as her.
Explain what she did.
The naked ambition. The obvious zero fucks given about anyone but herself. Everything about her is cold and calculating. Every time she does a press release it feels like focus grouped drivel.

She ran for Senate in my state because she wanted a high profile springboard even though she'd never lived here and didn't know anything about the state. She used us. Zero fucks given.

She's a warmonger that had us bombing Libya and wanted to bomb Syria. Worked out well.

She's just sleaze. If she were a guy her equivalent would be  Anthony Weiner. Surprising that Weiner's wife is on her staff?

She's a sociopath.
So the fact that she had a political career before running for president she is a sociopath? Do you know how many presidents we had that were in Congress or governors before running? It is the standard career path for presidents.

Clinton and Obama probably saved hundreds of thousands of lives by overthrowing Gaddafi. Would have saved many more by overthrowing Assad.
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2016-04-22 14:48:06
KEN-JENNINGS
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She is also under investigation for using a personal email server instead of DoD resources to communicate as Secretary of State.  That is actually a really big deal.  SHe also wasn't very good at her job as either a senator or SoS.

Macbeth, what are Hillary's policy positions and action plans to achieve them?  As someone who says Bernie is all talk and no action (despite him literally taking action on his principles for the last 50 years, even *gasp* BEFORE he was a politician), how is HIllary different?

Let's not forget she also was a key player in an illegal coup in Honduras.  Then tried to lie about it and use that lie as a badge of honor in her book.
2016-04-22 15:15:06
Jay
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She has no policies and stands for nothing. A vote for her is simply a vote for her branding. She's Levi's. Packaged, slick, designed to be inoffensive. Attempts at innovation or being trendy generally a half decade behind and kind of sad.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2016-04-22 15:16:32
KEN-JENNINGS
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it's like you said - everything she says is based on focus groups.  It's not an indictment of Hillary so much as the whole political process.
2016-04-22 15:18:15
SuperJail Warden
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I posted one plan of hers in the socialism thread. You commented on it remember?

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing … t-sharing/

You know Powell and Rice both used private email accounts for state business right? You know that the state department itself set up the server? And do you really think using a different email server is a big deal?
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2016-04-22 15:25:02
KEN-JENNINGS
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her plan is to encourage profit sharing? How cool.  The only concrete measure is the idea of a two year tax credit for profit sharing.  And the money for the credit comes from "the closure of tax loopholes that she will identify".

That's an awesomely ambiguous plan for someone to tout as evidence of her decisive platform issues.

I don't remember commenting on it at all.  I may have been drunk if/when I did.

Powell and Condy using private email accounts is also an issue.  It doesn't make Hillary's use OK.  And yes, I do think using a private email server is a big deal - there's certain oversight rules you can outmaneuver. Oversight is a key part of our checks and balances.  It can be construed as Hillary deciding that normal rules and regulations don't apply to her.

 

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