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This is probably the most irrelevant takeaway from that 20 minute video, but is there REALLY a line of men's products called "mando?"

that's just the momentum from biden, obama, clinton.

uziq wrote:

where is anyone proposing that, you dipshit? why is reading salient policy thinkers/advisers paramount to 'doing nothing'? that's how good governance has mostly always taken place, you idiot.

i mean, what do you even propose? putting a bunch of people totally inexperienced in government in positions of seniority, presumably approving of them reading or learning nothing about the organisations they helm, and making drastic cuts? letting oligarchs strip mine the organs of state?

you parrot the lame populist shit about 'being tired of experts' but you know full-well that elon hasn't got a clue how to run a government. you would genuinely rather let a person set back the west a generation in the global multi-polar world just because they have a STEM background and make comic book meme jokes, and because their actions spite 'liberal elites'. totally unproductive, ideologically motivated claptrap.

you genuinely think that your position of golf-clapping at the unfolding circus is somehow 'wise'. why a middle-aged man adopts this edgy online edgelord persona, i'll never know. even more mystifying, you're reading reich -- literally the sort of career insider you otherwise rail against. okay, then, don't read a world-renowned analyst, read listicles from a stooge of the liberal establishment.

i mean, do you actually have a clue or is it all attitudinal posturing with you, all the way down? tooze is widely regarded as one of the leading authorities today on the crisis we face - why wouldn't you want to read him to orient yourself? it's not 'inaction' to get your analytical bearings, ffs. the anti-intellectualism you espouse while on the other hand insisting on high-IQ types is really fascinating. a case study in insular maladaptation. one would think your main animus against humanities types, after all, is that they do read this stuff and do care enough to acquire a clue what they're talking about. your impatience with that isn't indicative of your higher understanding or politick, dilbert.

Just on climate we've had 50+ years of research, 30+ years of conferences.
Do we need another 30 COP meetings?
Do we need 85,000 people flying somewhere every year for no purpose?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na … Conference
We do not.

Everyone knows the issues, everyone knows the solutions, no-one, people like you, is willing to do anything.
Of course they aren't, they want to carry on talking and not making painful decisions while they do laps of the world to photograph themselves for instagram.

i was referring to the political crisis and you start talking about instagram photos. aww, honey.

you haven’t found a solution dilbert.  you’re a low-participation recluse and a loser. as soon as you venture outside - 'just taking a drive to get out the house', etc - you’re implicated in the same climate change debates as anyone else. as is well-established, as soon as you want for something, you don't think twice about its carbon footprint or whatever. ‘live at home, never meet anyone and don’t have friends’ is not a globally exportable solution to the climate crisis. you continually do this martyred saint act as if the sad life you’ve found for yourself was ‘chosen’ in order to save the planet. actually you’re just a gimp.

i took a long distance flight to introduce the woman i’m going to be with to my family. my mother can’t travel because she won’t leave my brother’s bedside. my grandparents are very old. my uncle has MS. actually very few of my close family can come to east asia.

as someone whose family emigrated i'm sure you’ve never had to go between the UK or australia for weddings, funerals, arrange legal matters and estates, to visit relatives or old friends, or to transport stuff. give me a fucking break with the ‘travel to take instagram photos' stuff. it makes you look pathetic, man. people take photos and have a nice time when they travel! you sad act.

it's really unbelievable that you keep trying to use international flights as a cudgel in this discussion. dude, your whole family emigrated to the other side of the world. presumably you didn't do it by boat, passing cape horn in hazardous seas, etc. no, presumably you all got on a plane. presumably also you transported some or quite a lot of possessions with you. that single excursion alone probably puts you in, like, the top 1% of humans that have ever walked this green earth in terms of emissions. maybe shush?

but let me guess ... your family emigrating and incurring a big carbon footprint was a matter of absolute necessity, right? and anyone else doing that journey ... is leading a life of foppish luxury, right? you do realise this is how pubescent 13 year olds comprehend real life, right? ‘everyone else is dumb, selfish, and hypocritical automatons, but not me, no, i have perfectly valid and very rational reasons for all the things i do’. grow up, i beseech ye. it may even lead you to think more clearly about evidently very important and pressing issues.

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clearly the science on climate change isn’t the issue. i’m not calling for a pause in activity while we gather more data, am i? i’m saying it’s a good idea to read commentary and analysis on fast-changing events in global politics. if you can’t see the difference, i don’t know how to help you. reading adam tooze isn’t ’stalling’ on action, moron. you would hope any policy-maker is continually reading and keeping themselves apprised of new information and analyses. it’s called being well-informed and it used to be thought of as integral to healthy democracy. of course, now your brand of philistine populist is in power, reading is an elitist activity. you really just sponsor the dumbest fucking opinions in order to excuse your laziness and incuriosity. but hey, make some more pithy remarks and post some more memes! it’s the right-wing soup du jour.

Last edited by uziq (2025-02-27 04:32:31)