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Quote from NYT's about Trump's former press secretary running for governor.

“The Republican base is not interested in serious governing candidates,” said Tim Miller, who served as an adviser to former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida. “They want people who will ‘own the libs,’ and Sarah is perfect for that.”

While a grievance-first strategy may be ruinous to the party’s chances in swing states like Pennsylvania and Virginia, it resonates in a conservative state like Arkansas. “Pro-coup Trumpism is a meal ticket to success in a Republican primary,” Mr. Miller said.

Imagine being interested in upsetting liberals on the other side of the country more than caring about your state's well being.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

“They want people who will ‘own the libs,’ and Sarah is perfect for that.”

These people are morons, but not unique to one side or America.

"Capitol terrorist running away from media as she exits federal courthouse wearing GPS ankle bracelet"
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout … ia_as_she/

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

“They want people who will ‘own the libs,’ and Sarah is perfect for that.”

These people are morons, but not unique to one side or America.

I feel like sometimes that's a copout. "Not unique to one side." "Both sides do it!" There were emotional, anguished reactions when Hillary lost in 2016, sure, but I don't remember anything like the Trump Raid from Democrats.

Some double-standards applied here too. "Get over it, Trump's your president now, cry more." "Trump supporters are just afraid and concerned for their country! It's perfectly understandable … "

Again, I would ask what did D-voters do that made Republicans so blood thirsty angry at us. All I want is universal healthcare and some more funding for schools. I have no interest in what goes on in Arkansas. I can't find it on a map and I had to Google to make sure I even spelled it correctly.

I don't understand how it's one side's burden to admit to its own fallibilities in response to another side's childish outburst. Trumpers even admired the man for "not being afraid to say what he thinks." Now some of the ones I know beg for moderation or would rather change the topic. Not that I'm going to say no to not arguing  the same right-wing politics for the umpteenth time with a true believer, but still.

"Nevermind the raid, what about that one time a librul cried on their podcast?"

It's not you specifically. I just remark on how funny it is that this always seems to surface whenever a Republican(s) does something embarrassing, from people who have spent many recent years nitpicking comparatively minor liberal gaffes. "Both sides" is its own meme. Dismissive, highly generalized, and stripped of critical thought.

The sheer distance this sort of topic can wander is utterly incredible. Suddenly very interested in black people calling a white person names back in May or whatever in response to criticisms of recent MAGA militancy, it's like "yeah, ok."

Let's not dwell on the past, guys:

Ted Cruz, Who Obsessed Over Clinton Emails, Wants To ‘Move On’ From Insurrection
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ted-cruz … 586aa4f121

Now's the time for unity, cry Republicans who 100% would not have called for it had Biden lost. The Democrats should totally be the only people here expected to help pick up the pieces.

I think calling it a soap opera may be a bit reductive. There are a lot of consequences to political maneuverings and power plays. Not so much for whether Todd dates the nurse or elopes with the veterinarian, though both may result in daytime weeping by observers.

Ted Cruz wrote:

“If I'm elected president, I'll tell you this, the United States of America will stand unapologetically and unequivocally with the nation of Israel.”

Had to keep the powder dry for the right moment. They're ready to shoot their shot.

I guess ICE has been getting a little rowdy. Their candidate definitely didn't win.

Trouble at home?

MyPillow guy Mike Lindell gets canceled in Newsmax interview
https://www.yahoo.com/news/my-pillow-gu … 44725.html

Newsmax shuts down Dominion conspiracy theorist. Also mentions Bed Bath & Beyond stopped selling his merch, which is weird to me because I thought they were in the Trump family's sphere of influence.

Elsewhere:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Again, I would ask what did D-voters do that made Republicans so blood thirsty angry at us. All I want is universal healthcare and some more funding for schools. I have no interest in what goes on in Arkansas. I can't find it on a map and I had to Google to make sure I even spelled it correctly.

I don't think it's so much what D-voters did as what right-wing, forked-tongue propaganda has been accusing them of for the past several decades. Seen it from them from both sides of the fence, and boy is there ever a fence. It's particularly insidious how poisonous, baseless sentiment gets piggybacked in on what would otherwise be sometimes good or valid points. Literally destroying lives.

I think a lot conservative arguments against liberal economics makes sense. I have stated before that I don't expect very many of our social problems to be solved by giving stuff away to lower income people. But calling someone a Marxist and making references to the Soviet Union in the same breath is going to make me not want to hear anymore from you. The same thing with a lot of Social Justice stuff. I don't like the references to Nazism/Fascism that a lot of liberals use when talking about right wingers. And I am again skeptical about a lot of the proposed liberal solutions to racial issues. But if someone makes a well thought out argument against BLM but then punctuates it by saying something about democrats hating white people then I don't really want to hear anything else from that person on any social issue.

She called them deplorable. They responded back by calling her a cannibal pedophile. It's like a DST flame war in 2007.