more like read on how crappy security is
the long lineage of loonie-fringe catholics who regularly practice civil disobedience is interesting to me - especially from a european perspective, where catholicism is more often associated with despotism and authority than some sort of saintly or holy asceticism.
the old nuns who break into nuclear silos also reminds me a lot of don delillo's 'underworld', which is an amazing fucking book.
but ya private security is also generally terrible. g4s are lambasted over here on the regular.
the old nuns who break into nuclear silos also reminds me a lot of don delillo's 'underworld', which is an amazing fucking book.
but ya private security is also generally terrible. g4s are lambasted over here on the regular.
You know sometimes I can see where shater is coming from, and sometimes might even agree with him.
But he lost me when he thinks its a bad thing everyone is equal under the law.
But he lost me when he thinks its a bad thing everyone is equal under the law.
shahter drinks the kook-aid. i don't even know where you meet someone like that to converse - there isn't so much a middle ground as a swamp mired in bullshit. he's like a medieval peasant who has fallen in love, after being fucked mercilessly in the ass one too many times by his local boyar. right, nemtsov's assassination isn't interesting because he was a 'nobody' and putin has '80% approval ratings'. lol oh my god.
also i think it's a pretty cut-and-dry job with the polonium murder on uk soil a while back. the entire intelligence trail led back to two guys who were employed by you ruskies. whether or not putin sent their office a personal hallmark card to say thanks is besides the point. polonium is not a cheap or easy way of killing someone (although the investigation, one of the largest and best conducted in the met's shitty history, revealed that your bears bungled the job several times, even spilling the contaminated liquid over the table-top by knocking over its beaker, etc.) polonium is such an extravagant, expensive and resource intensive way to kill someone in fact, that it's almost like it was.... trying to send a message... hmmmm. but no, it was rogue elements operating of their own unpredictable will! just your average, everyday street-thug with a highly radioactive isotope fizzing away with his cold lunch-meats. ffs.
also i think it's a pretty cut-and-dry job with the polonium murder on uk soil a while back. the entire intelligence trail led back to two guys who were employed by you ruskies. whether or not putin sent their office a personal hallmark card to say thanks is besides the point. polonium is not a cheap or easy way of killing someone (although the investigation, one of the largest and best conducted in the met's shitty history, revealed that your bears bungled the job several times, even spilling the contaminated liquid over the table-top by knocking over its beaker, etc.) polonium is such an extravagant, expensive and resource intensive way to kill someone in fact, that it's almost like it was.... trying to send a message... hmmmm. but no, it was rogue elements operating of their own unpredictable will! just your average, everyday street-thug with a highly radioactive isotope fizzing away with his cold lunch-meats. ffs.
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of course it's odd. he was definitely murdered by someone who had special connections. which means - ZOMG!!! evil ruskies! only they could possibly have had stuff like th... oh, wait...Cybargs wrote:
Kinda odd that someone was able to access such a specific nuclear material only state entities can obtain to murder someone.Shahter wrote:
who gives a fuck? he was poisoned, and then objective and independent western media reported it in such a way that to any freedom loving person it's obvious that it's evil putin who personally gave litvinenko an enema laced with polonium.
afaik, he wasn't occupying any such position at the time of murder.Was he not a member of the legislative? That makes him a member of the government even though he was in opposition.nemtsov? member of the government? O_o
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
wow! well done - witty and colorful. i'll have to save this somewhere.uziq wrote:
shahter drinks the kook-aid. i don't even know where you meet someone like that to converse - there isn't so much a middle ground as a swamp mired in bullshit. he's like a medieval peasant who has fallen in love, after being fucked mercilessly in the ass one too many times by his local boyar.
i'm glad you find it amusing, kiddo. it seems good and funny things come as a result of dumbest things sometimes - even nemtsov's death.right, nemtsov's assassination isn't interesting because he was a 'nobody' and putin has '80% approval ratings'. lol oh my god.
why then, if it's all so obvious, haven't info collected during the investigation been passed to russian officials, who are being continuously asked to release the "two guys" to be tried in uk?also i think it's a pretty cut-and-dry job with the polonium murder on uk soil a while back. the entire intelligence trail led back to two guys who were employed by you ruskies. whether or not putin sent their office a personal hallmark card to say thanks is besides the point. polonium is not a cheap or easy way of killing someone (although the investigation, one of the largest and best conducted in the met's shitty history, revealed that your bears bungled the job several times, even spilling the contaminated liquid over the table-top by knocking over its beaker, etc.) polonium is such an extravagant, expensive and resource intensive way to kill someone in fact, that it's almost like it was.... trying to send a message... hmmmm. but no, it was rogue elements operating of their own unpredictable will! just your average, everyday street-thug with a highly radioactive isotope fizzing away with his cold lunch-meats. ffs.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
because 'russian officials' have stated, time and time again, that they'll only allow them to be tried in a russian court? my god it's almost as if this story isn't several years old now.
To summarise:
Snowden is a "fucking twat"
Nemtsov is a "fucker"
Nemtsov's girlfriend is a "bitch"
Snowden is a "fucking twat"
Nemtsov is a "fucker"
Nemtsov's girlfriend is a "bitch"
Its not the job of the whistleblower to worry about small evils when exposing huge evils.really? of course, every assange and manning always takes all the nececcary pre-cautions not to fuck up someone who's not responsible for "crimes" committed by the "evil government". oh, wait, they couldn't possibly take those pre-cautions because they don't have all the info...
well, too bad, freedom-freedom-freedom-oy!
Fuck Israel
uh-huh. you want to start talking about decent people? - be my guest, but please make a new thread. thank you.Dilbert_X wrote:
To summarise:
Snowden is a "fucking twat"
Nemtsov is a "fucker"
Nemtsov's girlfriend is a "bitch"
of course. every war man should be trusted with telling "huge evils" from "small evils" - after all, they are all so nice, and well educated, and... oh, wait...Its not the job of the whistleblower to worry about small evils when exposing huge evils.really? of course, every assange and manning always takes all the nececcary pre-cautions not to fuck up someone who's not responsible for "crimes" committed by the "evil government". oh, wait, they couldn't possibly take those pre-cautions because they don't have all the info...
well, too bad, freedom-freedom-freedom-oy!
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
really? so no info has been passed which can be used to verify legitimacy of the accusations?uziq wrote:
because 'russian officials' have stated, time and time again, that they'll only allow them to be tried in a russian court?
okay.
what's with the "god", dude? please, don't tell me you went the atg way.my god it's almost as if this story isn't several years old now.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
the atg way? don't you mean the russian orthodox way? there's only one person's country here undergoing a renaissance in mystical bullshit. guess that's what living in a failed Mafia state does to the peasantry.
also great way of arguing - let's pedantically pick apart idiomatic usage!
and yes, evidence and due legal process was presented to Russia about the previous assassination. the thing is you guys insisted on trying it in your own courts. since when was that a thing? commit a murder in a foreign country and play the legal match at the home stadium? lol. you cannot be this retarded.
also great way of arguing - let's pedantically pick apart idiomatic usage!
and yes, evidence and due legal process was presented to Russia about the previous assassination. the thing is you guys insisted on trying it in your own courts. since when was that a thing? commit a murder in a foreign country and play the legal match at the home stadium? lol. you cannot be this retarded.
Who are you to say they are not 'decent'?Shahter wrote:
uh-huh. you want to start talking about decent people? - be my guest, but please make a new thread. thank you.
If there is nothing to expose then there is nothing to fear is there?of course. every war man should be trusted with telling "huge evils" from "small evils" - after all, they are all so nice, and well educated, and... oh, wait...
If a government is committing crimes including murder then everything else is insignificant.
Fuck Israel
i've an opinion about those people, you decided to talk to me about that, then you posted that "summary" - why? because you didn't like what i posted? well, sorry, mate, but that's all i have to say. but, hey, you are free to ignore me, you know.Dilbert_X wrote:
Who are you to say they are not 'decent'?Shahter wrote:
uh-huh. you want to start talking about decent people? - be my guest, but please make a new thread. thank you.
really? how about compromising people working undercover? the informers? how about secrecy and all that?If there is nothing to expose then there is nothing to fear is there?of course. every war man should be trusted with telling "huge evils" from "small evils" - after all, they are all so nice, and well educated, and... oh, wait...
says who?If a government is committing crimes including murder then everything else is insignificant.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
no, i don't.uziq wrote:
the atg way? don't you mean the russian orthodox way?
well, yeah, that tbh is pretty nasty, but i'm not my country so i see no reason to be discussing that.there's only one person's country here undergoing a renaissance in mystical bullshit. guess that's what living in a failed Mafia state does to the peasantry.
anyway, i take it you haven't gone the atg way, huh? i'm happy for you.
what, you wanted me to "argue" the way you do? like, by talking about the opponent engaging in buttsex and falling in love? sorry, kiddo, but i'm affraid my english's just not good enough. but, hey, i'm learning all the time, maybe in a year or two of conversing with all the wonderful people here i'll even be able to match you.also great way of arguing - let's pedantically pick apart idiomatic usage!
no, it wasn't.and yes, evidence and due legal process was presented to Russia about the previous assassination.
as i said, regardless of "that" being a "thing", there's not enough evidence to assess the accusations, that's what this shit has to start with.the thing is you guys insisted on trying it in your own courts. since when was that a thing? commit a murder in a foreign country and play the legal match at the home stadium?
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
almost.Cybargs wrote:
russia good west stupid. everything is western propaganda.
All anti-russian media is western propaganda, all pro-russian media is honest journalism.
"open your eyes western sheeple! your media is brainwashing you! ussr russian state-run media is the truth!"
What if a Chinese newspaper said something bad about Russia? Would that be western propaganda? Can you find one, cyborg?

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo … 4644_2.htmSuperJail Warden wrote:
What if a Chinese newspaper said something bad about Russia? Would that be western propaganda? Can you find one, cyborg?
At least they're publishing the information about nemtov
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/europe/
But their entire euro section is talking about how koo china is with the euros.
you have no idea (obviously).Cybargs wrote:
russia good
nah, not really, just arrogant.west stupid.
not everything, stupid, but a lot of stuff is, yes.everything is western propaganda.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
did i ever say that? i don't think so.Cybargs wrote:
shahter proud of russia.
gtfo already, kid. you have no idea what you are talking about. as always.
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if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
China is going to dominate central Asian politics in the future. Russians are going to regret not getting with the Western program someday.

A NSA cop was killed today. Americans love to talk about revolution and fighting the government but immediately lose their nerves once someone kills an authority figure.
The people screaming loudest about standing up against the NSA are now going around saying the cop didn't deserve to die.
Well, people die in revolutions.
The people screaming loudest about standing up against the NSA are now going around saying the cop didn't deserve to die.
Well, people die in revolutions.

Is rushing a gate to the building while dressed in drag part of any revolution handbook? I'm not familiar with that particular strat.