Missouri riots

2015-05-31 13:46:24

#51

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An anti-Islamic protest has taken place outside the former mosque of two men who launched a gun attack on an earlier, similar event.

Former Marine Jon Ritzheimer, the organiser, encouraged rally attendees to demonstrate their Second Amendment rights by bringing firearms to the Phoenix Islamic Community Center during evening prayers.

"This is in response to the recent attack in Texas where two armed terrorists, with ties to Isis, attempted Jihad,” he said. “Everyone is encouraged to bring American flags and any message that you would like to send to the known acquaintances of the two gunmen.”

Hundreds of anti-Islam demonstrators showed up to the so-called rally — toting AK-47s, rifles and other firearms — screaming hate-filled speech, according to Fox 10 Phoenix.

It's funny that there aren't mass protest in NYC against Islam but Arizona and Texas feel the need to cause some issues with their Muslims. Not surprising considering their history.

Interview with the organizer of the protest starts at 2:50. He doesn't seem like a really smart man.

2015-05-31 14:50:26

#52

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5354|London, England

I'm surprised feminists don't embrace the hijab. Nothing is more egalitarian or prevents the objectification of women more. All women become equally shapeless and anonymous.

Thought about this today while waiting in line behind a veiled Muslim woman at a garden center. All the American women were wearing tank tops and the like making ogling easy.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-06-01 15:09:42

#53

uziq: Member; +492|3449

wow jay

make u think huh

wriet a book

how the fuck does a hijab prevent the objectification of women? you do realise the objectification of women doesn't just refer to sexualising them or fetishising their appearance, right? objectification means denying subjectification. if you cloak a woman in a hijab, you are denying all of her individuality; you're turning her into a PURE object. the whole point of clothing women in that way within islam isn't to make them 'equal under the eyes of god'. it's to stop other men from looking at them, and having the shameful gaze returned. it's literally a doctrine that views the woman as the sole OBJECT of her husband; human property, as faceless and exchangeable as a commodity.

your a dumbas

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2015-06-01 15:42:34

#54

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Well some feminist have talked about the hijab as empowering. But I think that has mostly been a result of anti-Muslim conservatives trying to use feminism to hurt the muslims by trying to ban the hijab and veils or criticizing Islam as sexist. That is why banning them in western countries had the opposite effect of trying to integrate muslims. A lot of Muslims in western countries wear it to symbolize their culture and identity rather than for purely religious reasons. So it isn't inherently sexist in our part of the world if they aren't being forced to wear it and choose to. Especially since it attracts attention for its novelty in the west.

2015-06-01 17:16:28

#55

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5354|London, England

uziq wrote:
wow jay

make u think huh

wriet a book

how the fuck does a hijab prevent the objectification of women? you do realise the objectification of women doesn't just refer to sexualising them or fetishising their appearance, right? objectification means denying subjectification. if you cloak a woman in a hijab, you are denying all of her individuality; you're turning her into a PURE object. the whole point of clothing women in that way within islam isn't to make them 'equal under the eyes of god'. it's to stop other men from looking at them, and having the shameful gaze returned. it's literally a doctrine that views the woman as the sole OBJECT of her husband; human property, as faceless and exchangeable as a commodity.

your a dumbas

How do many women spend their day? They spend hours on makeup, hair, picking out the right clothing, working out etc. all so that they can appear attractive to both themselves and the world. There's a ton of pressure to look good every day. On top of this, some women are just naturally more attractive than other women, so the less attractive are dealing with an inherent handicap. A woman in a hijab doesn't have to worry about any of that. She can just be herself.

And yes, denial of individuality is absolutely true, and also the point. Leftist philosophies believe in equality, yes? What better way to level the playing field than to have everyone dress as amorphous blobs.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-06-01 18:27:39

#56

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,736|6733|Oxferd Ohire

2015-06-01 18:36:18

#57

coke: Aye up duck!; +440|6705|England. Stoke

2015-06-01 20:12:34

#58

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6713

Jay wrote:
uziq wrote:
wow jay

make u think huh

wriet a book

how the fuck does a hijab prevent the objectification of women? you do realise the objectification of women doesn't just refer to sexualising them or fetishising their appearance, right? objectification means denying subjectification. if you cloak a woman in a hijab, you are denying all of her individuality; you're turning her into a PURE object. the whole point of clothing women in that way within islam isn't to make them 'equal under the eyes of god'. it's to stop other men from looking at them, and having the shameful gaze returned. it's literally a doctrine that views the woman as the sole OBJECT of her husband; human property, as faceless and exchangeable as a commodity.

your a dumbas
How do many women spend their day? They spend hours on makeup, hair, picking out the right clothing, working out etc. all so that they can appear attractive to both themselves and the world. There's a ton of pressure to look good every day. On top of this, some women are just naturally more attractive than other women, so the less attractive are dealing with an inherent handicap. A woman in a hijab doesn't have to worry about any of that. She can just be herself.

And yes, denial of individuality is absolutely true, and also the point. Leftist philosophies believe in equality, yes? What better way to level the playing field than to have everyone dress as amorphous blobs.

I think it's about a matter of choice than anything. If a woman isn't forced to wear a niqab or hijab and she chose to it would be similar to a woman wearing 'revealing' clothing or putting on excessive make up. If a woman was forced to do the latter, it would be a different story.

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2015-06-01 20:50:45

#59

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,736|6733|Oxferd Ohire

society forces them

2015-06-02 00:25:34

#60

uziq: Member; +492|3449

RTHKI wrote:
society forces them

oh shut the fuck up. try being a married Muslim woman in the Middle East and refusing to wear the hijab or niqab. not the same thing as a western woman feeling 'pressured' to put on make-up to go down to Walmart. there is choice and freedom, not to mention no fear of punishment. people can dress however they want – however they feel they should look inside, that is – which is at least empowering. wearing a hijab because it's basically coded in the marriage customs, that when you get hitched you are the chattel property of the husband, is not empowering. as to how identity and group belonging is formed in the west or rest of the world, sure, there are outside influences on everything we do. no one exists in a vacuum of originality. that would be a narcissistic or solipsistic personality disorder. the simple fact is that a western woman can choose to dress like Paris Hilton, she can get ripped at the gym, she can tattoo and pierce her body, she can do whatever the fuck she wants.

and all this bullshit from jay about the 'left desiring everyone is the same'. the left is concerned with economic equality foremost, then political equality. sorry but there's nothing in socialist philosophy saying everyone should dress the same. most of that shit historically comes from militarist djctatorships with hard-ons for johns in crisp uniforms. is that where you're getting this from, jay? repressed memories of those days when you had all the choice and complexity taken from your life, and Uncle Sam told you what undies to put on?

you guys are thick as shit and it's almost comforting to see how little you have developed intellectually since bf2s started. jay's wholefoods queue philosophising. my god. your kid is doomed. are you going to get your wife a hijab and sell her on this brainwave idea?

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2015-06-02 02:38:46

#61

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6102|eXtreme to the maX

And equality of opportunity, something the right sells as libertarianism when its anything but.

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2015-06-02 02:49:55

#62

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Jay wrote:
How do many women spend their day? They spend hours on makeup, hair, picking out the right clothing, working out etc
I thought they were all too busy at the beach surfing or in the bush running from dingos and koalas
You have kangaroos boxing each other in your suburbs
And here the rest of the world just thinks you guys enjoy good schnitzel, good deserts, terrible wine and yodeling.

Either you've discovered trolling too late or you have the world view of an infant.

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2015-06-02 04:37:32

#63

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5354|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:
Jay wrote:
How do many women spend their day? They spend hours on makeup, hair, picking out the right clothing, working out etc
I thought they were all too busy at the beach surfing or in the bush running from dingos and koalas
You have kangaroos boxing each other in your suburbs
And here the rest of the world just thinks you guys enjoy good schnitzel, good deserts, terrible wine and yodeling.
Either you've discovered trolling too late or you have the world view of an infant.

The hijab argument is real, the rest is obviously tongue-in-cheek. Substitute peasant blouses and long skirts if you want. A big part of hippie feminism was the rejection of societal pressure to conform. They rejected bras, makeup and form fitting clothing. As long as it's voluntary I don't see much of a difference.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-06-02 05:03:38

#64

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6102|eXtreme to the maX

I think its more they gave up competing than conforming, as did the men - much easier to sit in a wig-wam smoking stuff than trying to get ahead in the rat race.

And wearing a burka is far from voluntary in most muslim-dominated places.

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2015-06-02 06:17:25

#65

uziq: Member; +492|3449

many Muslim women see the attire as an assertion of their identity, and it's as much a part of the orthodoxy of the faith they believe in as any other ritual or observance. so they're not all virulently opposed to it as a symbol of oppression (some are, though; Iranians in the bigger cities see it as an affront, for example). but considering there are punishments for not wearing it under shariah law, I wouldn't exactly say it's 'voluntary'.

2015-06-07 15:32:16

#66

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A mom and girl got into an argument at a pool party. The police showed up and decided to arrest everyone. Texas

2015-06-08 14:58:10

#67

uziq: Member; +492|3449

2015 and people are still finding the energy to be outraged over contextless videos. what a waste of fucking time.

2015-06-08 15:01:02

#68

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The cop was suspended.

2015-06-09 00:29:58

#69

uziq: Member; +492|3449

you'd think so as a precautionary measure if nothing else, with all the heat it's getting. but so what? you can't ascertain anything from that video. all the lugheads at liveleak understood it as 'a bunch of hood kids came into a gated community uninvited, and proceeded to disturb a family pool-party and abuse the residents'. guardian comment-section liberals saw it as 'disgusting American police brutality against innocent black youths'.

honestly who gives a fuck. waste of everyone's damn time.

2015-06-09 02:21:35

#70

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6102|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:
honestly who gives a fuck. waste of everyone's damn time.

Yes, I was briefly distracted from Stephen Fry's twitter feed by this nonsense.

In other news

Up to half a million refugees are gathering in Libya to attempt the crossing to Europe on the deadly boats that have killed thousands already.

The toll of misery was revealed by senior Royal Navy officers leading Britain’s Mediterranean rescue mission off the Libyan coast. Britain’s amphibious assault ship HMS Bulwark has helped save around 4,000 refugees before they drowned having set sail in unseaworthy boats.

The ship’s 350-strong company of sailors and Royal Marines is bracing itself to rescue a further 3,000. Captain Nick Cooke-Priest said: “Indications are that there are 450,000 to 500,000 migrants in Libya who are waiting at the border."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j … -migration

Good luck chaps.

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2015-06-10 11:02:40

#71

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uziq wrote:
you'd think so as a precautionary measure if nothing else, with all the heat it's getting. but so what? you can't ascertain anything from that video. all the lugheads at liveleak understood it as 'a bunch of hood kids came into a gated community uninvited, and proceeded to disturb a family pool-party and abuse the residents'. guardian comment-section liberals saw it as 'disgusting American police brutality against innocent black youths'.

honestly who gives a fuck. waste of everyone's damn time.

The officer resigned after the mayor said he was out of line and was wrong. The thing people are upset about is at 2:45 when he runs down a 14 year old girl who was just standing there. All of the context is recorded.

2015-06-10 14:58:14

#72

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6713

SuperJail Warden wrote:
uziq wrote:
you'd think so as a precautionary measure if nothing else, with all the heat it's getting. but so what? you can't ascertain anything from that video. all the lugheads at liveleak understood it as 'a bunch of hood kids came into a gated community uninvited, and proceeded to disturb a family pool-party and abuse the residents'. guardian comment-section liberals saw it as 'disgusting American police brutality against innocent black youths'.

honestly who gives a fuck. waste of everyone's damn time.
The officer resigned after the mayor said he was out of line and was wrong. The thing people are upset about is at 2:45 when he runs down a 14 year old girl who was just standing there. All of the context is recorded.

you mean the context that he drew his gun (and re-holstered straight after) because from his POV it looked like some kid was pulling a gun out? Why would anyone ever be so dumb to walk up to a cop whilst he's arresting someone.

2015-06-10 20:09:44

#73

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Cybargs wrote:
SuperJail Warden wrote:
uziq wrote:
you'd think so as a precautionary measure if nothing else, with all the heat it's getting. but so what? you can't ascertain anything from that video. all the lugheads at liveleak understood it as 'a bunch of hood kids came into a gated community uninvited, and proceeded to disturb a family pool-party and abuse the residents'. guardian comment-section liberals saw it as 'disgusting American police brutality against innocent black youths'.

honestly who gives a fuck. waste of everyone's damn time.
The officer resigned after the mayor said he was out of line and was wrong. The thing people are upset about is at 2:45 when he runs down a 14 year old girl who was just standing there. All of the context is recorded.
you mean the context that he drew his gun (and re-holstered straight after) because from his POV it looked like some kid was pulling a gun out? Why would anyone ever be so dumb to walk up to a cop whilst he's arresting someone.

The thing people are upset about is at 2:45 when he runs down a 14 year old girl who was just standing there. All of the context is recorded.

The thing people are upset about is at 2:45 when he runs down a 14 year old girl who was just standing there.

The thing people are upset about is at 2:45 when he runs down a 14 year old girl

The officer already apologized for his actions through his lawyer. This seems pretty open and shut now actually.

2015-07-16 08:41:51

#74

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Yeah that guy was murdered. He and his friends were unarmed. The police were searching for a stolen bike. They were innocent of stealing.

It took 2 years for a judge to order the video released. The COPs still have jobs.

2015-07-16 09:39:26

#75

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City also paid out somewhere around $5M

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