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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Federal authorities arrested Ammon Bundy, the leader of a group of protesters occupying a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon, during a traffic stop Tuesday, a law enforcement official told CNN.

Up to eight of Bundy's followers were detained, the source said.

Shots were fired after authorities made the stop, according to the source. It's not clear who fired first.

The group of protesters has occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge since January 2 to protest federal land policies.

Bundy, son of controversial Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and others started out protesting the sentencing of Dwight Hammond and his son Steven, ranchers convicted of arson on federal lands in Oregon.

But a march supporting the Hammonds led to the armed occupation of the refuge, with occupiers decrying what they call government overreach when it comes to federal lands.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/us/oregon … index.html

Awesome.

uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

The town had to cancel school for a week, divert police resources to monitor them, and give the town instructions to not interfere with the occupiers and the other people who came to join them.

So what?

you're really okay with fringe groups suspending civic order? how would you feel if the nation of islam barricaded the block where you work? let's ignore the political likelihood of that for a moment and just transpose what is happening distantly to your precious immediate concerns.

uziq wrote:

OWS and these guys are clearly the same ilk

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

OWS and these guys are clearly the same ilk

Because you identify with one and not the other?

Jay wrote:

So what? Do you understand how stupid the whole thing is? They occupied a remote ranger station. Let them squat there for the next decade and it impacts maybe five people. Who cares? They wanted publicity, not martyrdom. If they had gone there without guns the media would've mocked them even harder. The media has a left wing bias. You have a twisted statist bias that does probably think of OWS as terrorists too.

coke wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

They disrupted a town with thousands of people by using guns to try to change politics. Weren't you bitching about people ruining your commute by jumping in front of your train?

Dude, there's like 2 people in that town. Did you look at the area on Google maps? It's rural as can be. This is and was a non story

Doesn't affect Jay directly or chime with his varying, erratic and often contradictory bugbears so he doesn't care and dismisses it.

The number of armed occupiers of a remote wildlife refuge continued to dwindle Thursday as just four people appeared to be holding out by late morning, surrounded by a large show of federal law enforcement that has blocked off roads to the area.

“We’re the grunts that get stuck behind because nobody informed us of what’s going on,” one of the four, Sandy Anderson, said in a phone interview with the Los Angeles Times.

In interviews with The Times, Anderson and two others, including her husband, Sean, conveyed a complicated position: They said they would leave peacefully -- but only if they are assured they will not go to prison. They said they had not spoken with an FBI negotiator since about midnight

“Why can’t I get in my vehicle and drive home like I’ve done four other times since I got here?” said Sean Anderson, 47, of Riggins, Idaho, who was at the refuge along with wife Sandy, David Fry, 27, of Ohio and another man, Jeff Banta. “Because I didn’t leave the night they told us to do that? I hope my life and my wife’s life and Dave’s and Jeff’s are worth more than that.”

Earlier Thursday, the group believed only Sean Anderson faced arrest. But they said in the interviews that a fifth person, whose first name they said is Jake, was arrested after he left early Thursday with the belief that he would not be. By late Thursday morning, the four remaining presumed they would face the same felony charges others have who have been arrested in relation to the nearly month-long occupation.

Earlier Wednesday, Greg Bretzing, the special agent in charge for the FBI in Oregon, said at a news conference that “the armed occupiers were given ample opportunities to leave peacefully. They were given the opportunity to negotiate. As outsiders to Oregon, they were given the opportunity to return to their homes and have their grievances heard through legal and appropriate means. They chose, instead, to threaten the very America they profess to love with violence, intimidation and criminal acts.”

Three of the last four holdouts in the armed occupation of a wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon surrendered peacefully Thursday morning, 40 days after the standoff began, but the fourth, repeatedly saying “liberty or death,” said he would not give in. He said he was feeling suicidal.

Efforts to end the occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge came the day after the F.B.I. arrested Cliven Bundy, father of Ammon Bundy and an icon to antigovernment activists in the West, who was at the center of another armed standoff with government agents, in Nevada in 2014.