lolll. okay then, clearly you haven't been reading anything.Dilbert_X wrote:
Still need an actual plan more detailed than "lets give everyone a 10% pay rise"
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where do you get this shit from, honestly? you just make things up and expect people to seriously countenance them. 'oh if you tax the energy companies you'll run out of money in 6 months'. hey, dipshit, the alternative market-based process in place right now is for the GOVERNMENT to pay THE ENERGY COMPANIES any short falls from consumers on their insane pricing. THAT'S the cycle that is repeating every 6 months. fuck me hahahah.That covers the next six months, what then?
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uziq wrote:
norway aren't being rocked by energy prices rises.
germany is the most exposed nation to the gas prices, and in a big way, both industrially and domestically. they just set an energy price levy on consumers today of 480 EUR. how the fuck UK consumers are staring down the barrel of a £4000 energy cap is ludicrous.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy … 022-08-15/For an average family of four, the charge will amount to an additional annual cost of around 480 euros, or an increase of about 13% on the Verivox price comparison platform's calculation of an average gas bill of 3,568 euros based on usage of 20,000 kWh/year.
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https://www.equinor.com/energy/natural-gasNorway is currently the second-largest supplier of gas to the European gas market.
All fields on the Norwegian continental shelf contain varying quantities of gas. In the beginning, gas from the first fields to be developed was sold through lifespan contracts in which operators and buyers entered contracts for the entire operational life of the field. The gas is now marketed through several sales channels, including the spot market, through long-term contracts or directly to end-users such as power plants or industry.
British thinking has been characterised by short termism for at least 50 years now.uziq wrote:
it’s sheer genius!
what if i told you … the UK has … lots of the north sea too.Dilbert_X wrote:
Norway has lots of gas, no doubt their energy companies bought gas with multi-decade future price contracts - like most sensible countries, not the spot prices the vegetables in the UK signed up to.
I would expect many European countries have done the same, flattening out price spikes.https://www.equinor.com/energy/natural-gasNorway is currently the second-largest supplier of gas to the European gas market.
All fields on the Norwegian continental shelf contain varying quantities of gas. In the beginning, gas from the first fields to be developed was sold through lifespan contracts in which operators and buyers entered contracts for the entire operational life of the field. The gas is now marketed through several sales channels, including the spot market, through long-term contracts or directly to end-users such as power plants or industry.
Why lock in a long term contract when you can decide not to?
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it's funny because britain could have kept its north sea resources as a state-owned asset and gone down the same route as norway. we'd be insulated against foreign energy markets and would have a nice inter-generational nest egg; maybe even a sovereign wealth fund, like the norwegians and their canny investing.Dilbert_X wrote:
Britain has probably been used as a model for the Russian oligarchs to see how to loot a country.
What Britain needs is a selfless hero-genius to save the country, could be me, could be Elon Musk, I don't think its Truss or Sunak.
uziq wrote:
it's funny because britain could have kept its north sea resources as a state-owned asset and gone down the same route as norway. we'd be insulated against foreign energy markets and would have a nice inter-generational nest egg; maybe even a sovereign wealth fund, like the norwegians and their canny investing.
dilbert should know all too well about gas exports being in australia because...uziq wrote:
it's funny because britain could have kept its north sea resources as a state-owned asset and gone down the same route as norway. we'd be insulated against foreign energy markets and would have a nice inter-generational nest egg; maybe even a sovereign wealth fund, like the norwegians and their canny investing.Dilbert_X wrote:
Britain has probably been used as a model for the Russian oligarchs to see how to loot a country.
What Britain needs is a selfless hero-genius to save the country, could be me, could be Elon Musk, I don't think its Truss or Sunak.
instead we sold it all off in an orgy of privatisation. thatcherites and their harry enfield 'moneyyyyy!' types in the City. actually, we sold off our north sea oil/gas to ... people like you. private shareholders in energy companies.
i want 0% income tax as well and let govt funding be from gas exportsDilbert_X wrote:
The gas companies are basically robbing Australia, we should be as rich as Qatar.
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https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/ … on-1430817Dilbert_X wrote:
uziq wrote:
it's funny because britain could have kept its north sea resources as a state-owned asset and gone down the same route as norway. we'd be insulated against foreign energy markets and would have a nice inter-generational nest egg; maybe even a sovereign wealth fund, like the norwegians and their canny investing.
