Jay
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I pay $200 on my (family share plan with my wife) cell phone bill every month too It's fucking ridiculous.

21.71% of my bill is a state surcharge. Fuck New York.

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That's pretty steep. I'm sure we only pay about 40 quid for satellite/broadband, about $60 at current rates.

Damn post screwing up.

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Jay wrote:

I pay $200 on my (family share plan with my wife) cell phone bill every month too It's fucking ridiculous.

21.71% of my bill is a state surcharge. Fuck New York.
yours is $200/month, plus your wife's?  Or yours combined is $200/month?
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay wrote:

I pay $200 on my (family share plan with my wife) cell phone bill every month too It's fucking ridiculous.

21.71% of my bill is a state surcharge. Fuck New York.
yours is $200/month, plus your wife's?  Or yours combined is $200/month?
Combined is $203.03
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€7 gets me 120 minutes, 120 texts, and unlimited data.
No contract.
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120 text lol
Jay
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Shit, I've already sent 624 texts this month
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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Dauntless wrote:

Macbeth wrote:


Jay and I seem to be a truce right now. Cybargs never stops. Burnz wishes I was dead. I like Uzi and GS but they don't care for me.

GS hates ATG, doesn't like Jay.

Uzique hates Jay and Dilbert.

Jay hates a ton of people and a ton hate him.

Burnzz hates me, Uzi, ATG, and Kimmmm

That is all of the major ones right now.
why would burnzz hate kimmm?

and what about roc, where does he fit into all this
everyone hates roc, except dilbert, who entertains him as his little house negro because he makes posts about skrillex in the music thread and 'trolls' me.
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And @GS I have white, black, Hispanic, Asian and mixed friends. Diversity from living in america and NY fagit.
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Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay wrote:

I pay $200 on my (family share plan with my wife) cell phone bill every month too It's fucking ridiculous.

21.71% of my bill is a state surcharge. Fuck New York.
yours is $200/month, plus your wife's?  Or yours combined is $200/month?
Combined is $203.03
That's not too bad. I pay about $75/month with a discount from my work. Plus I have a work phone, so I'm pretty much like walter white. One's a burner.
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


yours is $200/month, plus your wife's?  Or yours combined is $200/month?
Combined is $203.03
That's not too bad. I pay about $75/month with a discount from my work. Plus I have a work phone, so I'm pretty much like walter white. One's a burner.
I'm annoyed that I pay $55/month in taxes for the stupid things
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I'm annoyed that US taxpayers subsidized the US cable, internet and cell phone infrastructure yet are still charged up the ass for it.  Of course those industries post ridiculous profit margins.

Examples like that just further my personal belief that some hugely important services and resources should be more nationalized, with the private sector simply running the services.
Jay
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Why? You can get a landline for like $20 a month, or free if you're poor. Cell phones are a luxury, not a necessity like heat or hot water.
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Jay
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Be careful what you wish for in any case. People on Long Island bitched about utility rates for years and years and years until the State came in and created the Long Island Power Authority out of the ashes of LILCO (Long Island Lighting Company). Now rates are higher and the Authority is staffed by political patronage hacks making obscene wages while service has degraded to a very noticeable extent. No one holds public utilities accountable, because they can't. It's better to have competition than government sponsored monopolies in just about every case imaginable.
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landlines should be more or less free.  Same with cable and internet.  A small amount billed each month for upkeep and paper pushing.  We already paid for this shit through subsidies. 

Think of it like a sports stadium - government issues bonds (to be repaid by increasing taxes).  Sometimes a private company (usually the investment group that owns the team or will own the stadium) will also provide funds, but not always.

After the stadium is built, naming rights and advertising space is sold.  The overwhelming majority of the time, these are not used to pay back the bonds or any debt incurred during the building of the stadium.  Again, sometimes they are, but it is not standard.  After that, the local team and other musical acts are slated to play in the venue.  The theory normally put forward is that the area will incur increased sales and tax revenue due to more business being conducted in the area, which will more than pay for costs originally incurred, plus any strain to the local infrastructure around the stadium.  This has been proven false numerous times.  Essentially the general public (especially in large metropolitan areas like LA, NY, etc) will be fleeced to pay for some billionaires dick-waving. 

But you'd rather bitch about cell phone surcharges.  Whatever.
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Jay wrote:

Be careful what you wish for in any case. People on Long Island bitched about utility rates for years and years and years until the State came in and created the Long Island Power Authority out of the ashes of LILCO (Long Island Lighting Company). Now rates are higher and the Authority is staffed by political patronage hacks making obscene wages while service has degraded to a very noticeable extent. No one holds public utilities accountable, because they can't. It's better to have competition than government sponsored monopolies in just about every case imaginable.
Competition absolutely KILLED California during the energy crisis.  Why?  Because Enron and other energy companies created shell companies to sell energy to each other, resulting in huge inflation.  Companies will find the path of least resistance to make the most amount of money.  Is a company bribing government officials or spending exorbitant amounts of money to lobby an indictment of free-market capitalism or an omnipotent government?
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

landlines should be more or less free.  Same with cable and internet.  A small amount billed each month for upkeep and paper pushing.  We already paid for this shit through subsidies. 

Think of it like a sports stadium - government issues bonds (to be repaid by increasing taxes).  Sometimes a private company (usually the investment group that owns the team or will own the stadium) will also provide funds, but not always.

After the stadium is built, naming rights and advertising space is sold.  The overwhelming majority of the time, these are not used to pay back the bonds or any debt incurred during the building of the stadium.  Again, sometimes they are, but it is not standard.  After that, the local team and other musical acts are slated to play in the venue.  The theory normally put forward is that the area will incur increased sales and tax revenue due to more business being conducted in the area.  This has been proven false numerous times.  Essentially the general public (especially in large metropolitan areas like LA, NY, etc) will be fleeced to pay for some billionaires dick-waving. 

But you'd rather bitch about cell phone surcharges.  Whatever.
Cell phone towers are all privately owned here, not government subsidized. The city charges rent on the telephone poles, but the utility companies put the lines on them and pay for the maintenance out of their own pockets. I fail to see why stadiums are at all relevant as they should be completely privately financed in the first place, they're the biggest waste of local money imaginable.
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You should be able to buy channels individually
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay wrote:

Be careful what you wish for in any case. People on Long Island bitched about utility rates for years and years and years until the State came in and created the Long Island Power Authority out of the ashes of LILCO (Long Island Lighting Company). Now rates are higher and the Authority is staffed by political patronage hacks making obscene wages while service has degraded to a very noticeable extent. No one holds public utilities accountable, because they can't. It's better to have competition than government sponsored monopolies in just about every case imaginable.
Competition absolutely KILLED California during the energy crisis.  Why?  Because Enron and other energy companies created shell companies to sell energy to each other, resulting in huge inflation.  Companies will find the path of least resistance to make the most amount of money.  Is a company bribing government officials or spending exorbitant amounts of money to lobby an indictment of free-market capitalism or an omnipotent government?
It's an indictment of the corruptability of people who go into government. You don't think that stuff happens in a heavily regulated environment? Any point where government and business meet there is and will be corruption. Why do you think I argue so vehemently for free markets? I fucking hate crony capitalism.
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Railroad, cable and TV land lines were subsidized by the government.  Billions in subsidies were given for cable and internet lines.   It mimics stadiums because it's a transfer of wealth from the public to the private.  I know how you loathe the transfer of wealth.

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