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I reread some of the synopsis of a book I read during undergrad titled "The Soldier and the State". It was written in 1957 by the guy who later made Clash of Civilizations. But this book is very academic and dry and not sensationalist.

He argues that the best way to bring forward effective civilian control of the military is the professionalize the officer corp. What he means by that is to turn the officer corp into a self regulating profession with certain standards, a well defined role, an area of deference. I think the concept can be looked into when it comes to U.S. policing. There are no national standards for police. There isn't an universal curriculum or minimum competency requirement. Anyone can become an officer if the local police captain makes them so. Maybe we can have a national law enforcement certification or universal minimum standards to qualify for aid and legal protection? Have a self regulating national organization able to review and dismiss officers and officer actions that is counter to the mission and prestige of the organization?

Thoughts?

Officers slashed tires on vehicles parked amid Minneapolis protests, unrest
https://www.startribune.com/officers-sl … 571105692/

and from twitter:

https://twitter.com/meganranney/status/ … 2056409088
https://twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/1 … 1813065728


RIP.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

How is it dilbert's take that police will be unable to arrest black people now? Just do it without death and excessive force. Stop escalating encounters with the public into violence. Stop training US cops how to beat on people and get away with it. Stop presenting as an oppressive paramilitary force. Stop being so adversarial in general. They've got a lot of work to do in patching up PR.

Whenever police go to arrest a black guy there'll be a riot.

Obviously the police have been assholes, the pendulum will now swing in completely the other direction, blacks will be free to be assholes.

uziq wrote:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270333484528214018

good fucking god. this is frightening stuff.

Read the comments on this article. They make good points

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/tru … ovocateur/

uziq wrote:

how do i see the comments?

red thought box in the bottom right of the article

Dilbert_X wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

How is it dilbert's take that police will be unable to arrest black people now? Just do it without death and excessive force. Stop escalating encounters with the public into violence. Stop training US cops how to beat on people and get away with it. Stop presenting as an oppressive paramilitary force. Stop being so adversarial in general. They've got a lot of work to do in patching up PR.

Whenever police go to arrest a black guy there'll be a riot.

Obviously the police have been assholes, the pendulum will now swing in completely the other direction, blacks will be free to be assholes.

That makes zero sense.

Protests and riots don't happen every time a black man is arrested. They happen in response to events like Rodney King and George Floyd. We don't need police forces who can beat people to death, or half to death, then get away with a slap on the wrist and a pat on the back. This current chaos is feeding into itself and the police are among those with the most blame. What else are some people going to do? Write a letter to the president. Ha!

is it really not considered a big deal in the states that the president now routinely cites conspiracy theories?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … lice-tweet

this stuff is so far off-piste and so detached from reality that it's worrying.

it reminds me, yet again, of that interview with an ex-intelligence official who said that briefing trump is unlike any other president because he 'doesn't discriminate on his information', i.e. he is dumb as a brick and would believe something a fucking fortune teller told him.



and this is the guy that wants to 'dominate' the streets of US cities. based on his weird worldview where 75-year-old christian charity workers are 'antifas trying to scan police operations'. wtf.

uziq wrote:

is it really not considered a big deal in the states that the president now routinely cites conspiracy theories?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … lice-tweet

this stuff is so far off-piste and so detached from reality that it's worrying.

it reminds me, yet again, of that interview with an ex-intelligence official who said that briefing trump is unlike any other president because he 'doesn't discriminate on his information', i.e. he is dumb as a brick and would believe something a fucking fortune teller told him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu3Fum2ozwI

and this is the guy that wants to 'dominate' the streets of US cities. based on his weird worldview where 75-year-old christian charity workers are 'antifas trying to scan police operations'. wtf.

Is anyone still surprised at the depths of Trump's incompetence? After almost 4 years it's safe to say the USA is a banana republic.

Kindergarten Teacher Passes Out Flowers To National Guard in Philly, Gets Arrested (by police)
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ … lowers_to/

She was probably a few zip codes away from Jay's children needing a substitute.

e: larger gallery @ https://imgur.com/gallery/xTAOZUZ

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But ho-hum, black people will not be able to be arrested if we continue oppressing our law enforcement.

https://www.economist.com/united-states … itedstates

At least Ken was able to go camping without being subject to a witch hunt.

Family Harassed & Accused of Being Antifa by Residents in Forks, Wash.
https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/forks-wa … -harassed/

A family of four was camping in Forks, Wash., when locals accused them of being Antifa and harassed them, following them to the campsite and cutting down trees to block the road, police said. The Clallam County Sheriff’s Office issued a press release to Peninsula Daily late on Thursday, saying that four high school students helped the family leave by clearing out the trees with chainsaws.

The family was described by the outlet as a multi-racial family of four hailing from Spokane — a husband and wife, their 16-year-old daughter and the man’s mother. The Clallam County Sheriff’s Office is conducting a criminal investigation and is looking for information regarding those involved. Many people spoke about the events on Twitter, with some people sharing screenshots of locals bragging about what happened.

Neither the names of the family nor those of the locals involved have been provided by the authorities.

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