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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

The point of intersectionality is to flip the existing dynamic on its head, with straight white males on the bottom.

You don't know what intersectionality is. This is just like Larssen not understanding what multiculturalism is.

Intersectionality is the idea that people can have spheres of privilege and spheres of discrimination that sometimes intersect with each other and between groups. I am a brown guy and face discrimination in some circumstances but privilege in others. I am a guy and I have privilege in some areas and discrimination in others. A white guy has privileges in some areas and discrimination in others. Sometimes someone's especially from traditionally discriminated against groups privilege is someone else's discrimination. The intersection. What intersectionality is all about is figuring about how these affect people and events and how we can balance this. Example:

#MeToo ladies say that all women's accusations should be believed outright. Meanwhile black guys can point out that false rape accusations from white girls have led to their lynching and murder in the past. These two separate social justice issues intersect. Whose claim is more important? What should be done? The field of study is there to figure it out.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Someone is suing Jay's wife's charity - Can't you see how this is now an issue which affects Jay?

Jay wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Someone is suing Jay's wife's charity - Can't you see how this is now an issue which affects Jay?

Nah, it's about the videos I keep seeing posted with white people down on their knees asking black people for forgiveness. It's constant references to 1619 like every white American is guilty of slavery and it's the original sin that can never be atoned for. You don't live here. It's getting dangerously stupid and people are buying in.

Pochsy wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Someone is suing Jay's wife's charity - Can't you see how this is now an issue which affects Jay?

I'm interested. What we know about this?

Dilbert_X wrote:

Whats key here is Jay could lose money.
The situation needs to be changed so Jay couldn't lose money.
Whichever ideology is the one which will deliver for Jay is the one he will latch onto.

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

If you said any of this in the US you'd be labeled a racist. The problem is systemic racism and oppression. Those blacks in your statistics are poor because white people exploited them and marginalized them, not due to any of their own personal choices. Those cops need to understand that the reasons police get involved isn't to stop crime, it's to crack down on culture.

Your opinion as a straight white male can not encompass the experience of growing up in a patriarchal society as a marginalized and persecuted person of color. Instead of criticizing your ethnic minorities and saying they earn extra policing, you need to check your privilege.

I label anyone who complains about getting labeled a racist as racist. That's an admission of guilt if I ever saw one. Like complaining about people calling you a pedophile.

I am pretty even-handed when it comes to this race stuff. I can have Uzique, Ken, and GS vouch that I am not a #BLM person.

My wife is on the board of directors for the charity that runs an all-girls sleepaway camp. Over the past week her charity has been under attack by one former camper, who is black, and is now using social media to blast the camp for an experience that she says was racist and life altering almost twenty years ago. Now, this camp is mostly white girls, but it's as liberal as it gets. I joke that it's really a lesbian in training camp. Anyway, so this girl, with her twenty year old grudge has called out a person on the board over her racism. Fine. Her comment wasn't racist any way you spin it, but whatever.

[She was given a toy gun by a British camper as her secret santa present and broke down in tears over it. The woman she is accusing of racism asked her "are you crying because you are black and you think that is offensive?". So, a microaggression if anything.]

So, because of the moment, and because the people on the board are genuinely good people for the most part, they've been trying to relate to her and say how sorry they are etc. She's been taking every one of their comments, posting them on social media, and ripping them apart. She's now demanding a paid position on their board for her and two of her friends as a diversity member, because they need to be paid for their experience as black women in America.

This is extortion, and it's the logical extension of the politics uzi likes to parade around in. Reparations. Original sin. Wait til it happens to you and you are on the verge of having your life destroyed because you've empowered minorities with social nuclear weapons and they know they hold all the power.

Jay wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Someone is suing Jay's wife's charity - Can't you see how this is now an issue which affects Jay?

Nah, it's about the videos I keep seeing posted with white people down on their knees asking black people for forgiveness. It's constant references to 1619 like every white American is guilty of slavery and it's the original sin that can never be atoned for. You don't live here. It's getting dangerously stupid and people are buying in.

Larssen wrote:

Uziq is right in saying that I'd like race/ethnicity to simply be an 'interesting facet' to identity.

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