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Larssen wrote:

stuff
You were a history major? I don't understand what you find unusual about protest/revolts jumping between countries within a culture group even if the initial protest isn't analogous.

Off the top of my head:

Protestant Reformation: Revolt against the Catholic Church that took place across Europe in vastly different cultures and political systems.

1848 Springtime of Nations: Protest and uprisings in various European countries with vastly different cultures and political systems.

Post-World War 1 Communist Revolutions: Uprisings against governments in countries with vastly different cultures and political systems.

Arab Spring: Revolts against Arab governments each with a different sectarian/political/economic context.

The ongoing U.S. protest spreading throughout the west isn't unusual at all. And I keep bringing up the Arab Spring because the social-political situations in the Arab world and the U.S. now are very similar in a lot of ways. And just like that event, if our protest results in dramatic political changes, it will definitely spillover through the rest of the west too.
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https://imgur.com/gallery/0Fq61ck

turns out that guy who attacked a child in a park and rammed the parents with his bike did, in fact, just ruin his life.

stupid cunt.

macbeth stuff
this is what i'm getting at with larssen's very interesting hot takes. he only speaks the liberal mumbo-jumbo speak in my opinion. they've got the issue all wrapped up, folks! explained by statistics! it's sadly an inevitability of the immigrant experience, you see. at the end of the day he just doesn't like uppity ex-colonials and conscientious hipsters taking to the streets to criticize his benign, benevolent liberal utopia.

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A much better argument for Larssen would be to paint the protest movements as a broad reaction to the economic collapse of the west and/or failure of conservative governance in the U.S. That's the way I am kind of seeing it and it avoids uncomfortable discussions about race. The fact that twice economically ruined millennials and coming of age Gen Z are the ones putting in the work on the street is proof of this. How many old folks do you see at these protest? Aside from the guy that the police nearly killed.
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european bureaucrats have all the right answers to the economic collapse, too. 2009 was a miracle!
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uziq wrote:

also having a gamestop aesthetic in your bedroom or living room is never a good look, i don’t actually care what you say on this. ur wrong.
I agree though. I think they should be boxed when not in use, or in a game room if they (egh) must be on display. I always thought it tacky to see living rooms or bedrooms taken up with electronics, gadgets, and various libraries. Negates the neutral feel I prefer for these rooms. If you don't have the space to box the stuff up or give it its own room, own less stuff I guess.

Also it seems like a bit of a compensation even for a twitch/youtube streamer. Some of the really good players I've seen have relatively normal looking computer rooms with maybe a cat lounging in the background. When I see a giant shelf taking up random space on a wall, I expect the person to at some point get into how women in their Battlefield offended them.
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

A much better argument for Larssen would be to paint the protest movements as a broad reaction to the economic collapse of the west and/or failure of conservative governance in the U.S. That's the way I am kind of seeing it and it avoids uncomfortable discussions about race. The fact that twice economically ruined millennials and coming of age Gen Z are the ones putting in the work on the street is proof of this. How many old folks do you see at these protest? Aside from the guy that the police nearly killed.
How can you honestly blame conservatives for this economic mess? Your Democrat governor shut down your state. Mine did too. Republican states have been reopening and had their economies come roaring back. I think Murphy won't win another term.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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lol.
SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

uziq wrote:

also having a gamestop aesthetic in your bedroom or living room is never a good look, i don’t actually care what you say on this. ur wrong.
I agree though. I think they should be boxed when not in use, or in a game room if they (egh) must be on display. I always thought it tacky to see living rooms or bedrooms taken up with electronics, gadgets, and various libraries. Negates the neutral feel I prefer for these rooms. If you don't have the space to box the stuff up or give it its own room, own less stuff I guess.

Also it seems like a bit of a compensation even for a twitch/youtube streamer. Some of the really good players I've seen have relatively normal looking computer rooms with maybe a cat lounging in the background. When I see a giant shelf taking up random space on a wall, I expect the person to at some point get into how women in their Battlefield offended them.
That's where you went wrong, buddy. I like displaying my books. Dumb people are impressed and/or intimidated when they see a lot of books (you read all of these?!) and bookish people respect that you are also a bookish person who doesn't have NFL Jerseys on the wall or something like that.

For what it's worth, you seemed like the kind of guy who would have a wall unit with a neatly organized collection of retro consoles and games.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
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Larssen wrote:

Statistical asymmetry is unavoidable as most predominantly immigrant communities are also (very) poor, have high unemployment, have bad or at best brittle relations with surrounding communities and suffer high crime rates as a result of these factors. Emergency hotline deployments and subsequent policing are far, far more common than in any other community. Of course that means more arrests and killings will happen in immigrant neighbourhoods and involving immigrants. Relatively it will be much more compared to white populations.

If the UK fatality rate of black people is even 5 times as high as the average it would still be among the lowest overall rates on the planet. Of course perhaps cause for concern, but nonetheless pretty damn good.

I drew an equivalence based on your comment. The largest pegida demonstrations drew almost 30.000 people. Still didn't justify the cause. Anyway, as I stated, protest in people's own context and with their own grievances, fine. But to speak of police brutality when there barely is any, gtfo.

Oh and it was a train in belgium.
If you said any of this in the US you'd be labeled a racist. The problem is systemic racism and oppression. Those blacks in your statistics are poor because white people exploited them and marginalized them, not due to any of their own personal choices. Those cops need to understand that the reasons police get involved isn't to stop crime, it's to crack down on culture.

Your opinion as a straight white male can not encompass the experience of growing up in a patriarchal society as a marginalized and persecuted person of color. Instead of criticizing your ethnic minorities and saying they earn extra policing, you need to check your privilege.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

A much better argument for Larssen would be to paint the protest movements as a broad reaction to the economic collapse of the west and/or failure of conservative governance in the U.S. That's the way I am kind of seeing it and it avoids uncomfortable discussions about race. The fact that twice economically ruined millennials and coming of age Gen Z are the ones putting in the work on the street is proof of this. How many old folks do you see at these protest? Aside from the guy that the police nearly killed.
How can you honestly blame conservatives for this economic mess? Your Democrat governor shut down your state. Mine did too. Republican states have been reopening and had their economies come roaring back. I think Murphy won't win another term.
Republican states have never had economies like Democrat stats in the first place. You literally can just run the numbers. Their roaring back is also overstated. Restaurants bars movie theaters and more or less any kind of social gathering spots still have deflated numbers. Turns out many people don't want to hang out with strangers in crowded spaces while a pandemic is still ongoing. A lot of proudly reopen small businesses are doomed. Doubly so if we get another wave. Are we even out of the first?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

For what it's worth, you seemed like the kind of guy who would have a wall unit with a neatly organized collection of retro consoles and games.
I would put them in a side room, or I wouldn't put them out at all. I don't need a wall full of junk in my bedroom or making my living room look tacky. Currently, I've got a a Switch hooked up next to my PC.
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For Jay's benefit,

Divided by COVID-19: Democratic U.S. areas hit three times as hard as Republican ones
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal … SKBN22X14I
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

Larssen wrote:

Statistical asymmetry is unavoidable as most predominantly immigrant communities are also (very) poor, have high unemployment, have bad or at best brittle relations with surrounding communities and suffer high crime rates as a result of these factors. Emergency hotline deployments and subsequent policing are far, far more common than in any other community. Of course that means more arrests and killings will happen in immigrant neighbourhoods and involving immigrants. Relatively it will be much more compared to white populations.

If the UK fatality rate of black people is even 5 times as high as the average it would still be among the lowest overall rates on the planet. Of course perhaps cause for concern, but nonetheless pretty damn good.

I drew an equivalence based on your comment. The largest pegida demonstrations drew almost 30.000 people. Still didn't justify the cause. Anyway, as I stated, protest in people's own context and with their own grievances, fine. But to speak of police brutality when there barely is any, gtfo.

Oh and it was a train in belgium.
If you said any of this in the US you'd be labeled a racist. The problem is systemic racism and oppression. Those blacks in your statistics are poor because white people exploited them and marginalized them, not due to any of their own personal choices. Those cops need to understand that the reasons police get involved isn't to stop crime, it's to crack down on culture.

Your opinion as a straight white male can not encompass the experience of growing up in a patriarchal society as a marginalized and persecuted person of color. Instead of criticizing your ethnic minorities and saying they earn extra policing, you need to check your privilege.
I label anyone who complains about getting labeled a racist as racist. That's an admission of guilt if I ever saw one. Like complaining about people calling you a pedophile.

I am pretty even-handed when it comes to this race stuff. I can have Uzique, Ken, and GS vouch that I am not a #BLM person.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

A much better argument for Larssen would be to paint the protest movements as a broad reaction to the economic collapse of the west and/or failure of conservative governance in the U.S. That's the way I am kind of seeing it and it avoids uncomfortable discussions about race. The fact that twice economically ruined millennials and coming of age Gen Z are the ones putting in the work on the street is proof of this. How many old folks do you see at these protest? Aside from the guy that the police nearly killed.
How can you honestly blame conservatives for this economic mess? Your Democrat governor shut down your state. Mine did too. Republican states have been reopening and had their economies come roaring back. I think Murphy won't win another term.
Republican states have never had economies like Democrat stats in the first place. You literally can just run the numbers. Their roaring back is also overstated. Restaurants bars movie theaters and more or less any kind of social gathering spots still have deflated numbers. Turns out many people don't want to hang out with strangers in crowded spaces while a pandemic is still ongoing. A lot of proudly reopen small businesses are doomed. Doubly so if we get another wave. Are we even out of the first?
Yes, phase 1 in nyc on Monday. Quarantine won't last much longer. There's too much unrest to continue it.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

For Jay's benefit,

Divided by COVID-19: Democratic U.S. areas hit three times as hard as Republican ones
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal … SKBN22X14I
What is population density?

Also congrats on the Switch. I should have bought a switch instead of MTG stuff and a PC. But having a Switch now is just another commitment.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


How can you honestly blame conservatives for this economic mess? Your Democrat governor shut down your state. Mine did too. Republican states have been reopening and had their economies come roaring back. I think Murphy won't win another term.
Republican states have never had economies like Democrat stats in the first place. You literally can just run the numbers. Their roaring back is also overstated. Restaurants bars movie theaters and more or less any kind of social gathering spots still have deflated numbers. Turns out many people don't want to hang out with strangers in crowded spaces while a pandemic is still ongoing. A lot of proudly reopen small businesses are doomed. Doubly so if we get another wave. Are we even out of the first?
Yes, phase 1 in nyc on Monday. Quarantine won't last much longer. There's too much unrest to continue it.
And if we spike again immediately or in the fall, what is your suggestion?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

Larssen wrote:

Statistical asymmetry is unavoidable as most predominantly immigrant communities are also (very) poor, have high unemployment, have bad or at best brittle relations with surrounding communities and suffer high crime rates as a result of these factors. Emergency hotline deployments and subsequent policing are far, far more common than in any other community. Of course that means more arrests and killings will happen in immigrant neighbourhoods and involving immigrants. Relatively it will be much more compared to white populations.

If the UK fatality rate of black people is even 5 times as high as the average it would still be among the lowest overall rates on the planet. Of course perhaps cause for concern, but nonetheless pretty damn good.

I drew an equivalence based on your comment. The largest pegida demonstrations drew almost 30.000 people. Still didn't justify the cause. Anyway, as I stated, protest in people's own context and with their own grievances, fine. But to speak of police brutality when there barely is any, gtfo.

Oh and it was a train in belgium.
If you said any of this in the US you'd be labeled a racist. The problem is systemic racism and oppression. Those blacks in your statistics are poor because white people exploited them and marginalized them, not due to any of their own personal choices. Those cops need to understand that the reasons police get involved isn't to stop crime, it's to crack down on culture.

Your opinion as a straight white male can not encompass the experience of growing up in a patriarchal society as a marginalized and persecuted person of color. Instead of criticizing your ethnic minorities and saying they earn extra policing, you need to check your privilege.
I label anyone who complains about getting labeled a racist as racist. That's an admission of guilt if I ever saw one. Like complaining about people calling you a pedophile.

I am pretty even-handed when it comes to this race stuff. I can have Uzique, Ken, and GS vouch that I am not a #BLM person.
My wife is on the board of directors for the charity that runs an all-girls sleepaway camp. Over the past week her charity has been under attack by one former camper, who is black, and is now using social media to blast the camp for an experience that she says was racist and life altering almost twenty years ago. Now, this camp is mostly white girls, but it's as liberal as it gets. I joke that it's really a lesbian in training camp. Anyway, so this girl, with her twenty year old grudge has called out a person on the board over her racism. Fine. Her comment wasn't racist any way you spin it, but whatever.

[She was given a toy gun by a British camper as her secret santa present and broke down in tears over it. The woman she is accusing of racism asked her "are you crying because you are black and you think that is offensive?". So, a microaggression if anything.]

So, because of the moment, and because the people on the board are genuinely good people for the most part, they've been trying to relate to her and say how sorry they are etc. She's been taking every one of their comments, posting them on social media, and ripping them apart. She's now demanding a paid position on their board for her and two of her friends as a diversity member, because they need to be paid for their experience as black women in America.

This is extortion, and it's the logical extension of the politics uzi likes to parade around in. Reparations. Original sin. Wait til it happens to you and you are on the verge of having your life destroyed because you've empowered minorities with social nuclear weapons and they know they hold all the power.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:


Republican states have never had economies like Democrat stats in the first place. You literally can just run the numbers. Their roaring back is also overstated. Restaurants bars movie theaters and more or less any kind of social gathering spots still have deflated numbers. Turns out many people don't want to hang out with strangers in crowded spaces while a pandemic is still ongoing. A lot of proudly reopen small businesses are doomed. Doubly so if we get another wave. Are we even out of the first?
Yes, phase 1 in nyc on Monday. Quarantine won't last much longer. There's too much unrest to continue it.
And if we spike again immediately or in the fall, what is your suggestion?
They'll never ever quarantine again. People would revolt, especially now that we know for certain that it only really impacts old people.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


Yes, phase 1 in nyc on Monday. Quarantine won't last much longer. There's too much unrest to continue it.
And if we spike again immediately or in the fall, what is your suggestion?
They'll never ever quarantine again. People would revolt, especially now that we know for certain that it only really impacts old people.
So if we can't do another round of quarantine then what should we do? Do you have any ideas or suggestions than to just let people die?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:


And if we spike again immediately or in the fall, what is your suggestion?
They'll never ever quarantine again. People would revolt, especially now that we know for certain that it only really impacts old people.
So if we can't do another round of quarantine then what should we do? Do you have any ideas or suggestions than to just let people die?
Just have to isolate the nursing homes better. 40,000 people died in nursing homes from the virus. I think people will keep wearing masks, and people who can work from home will, but there's no reason stores can't be open right now. There's no reason schools can't open in the fall. My kids day care/preschool reopens on Monday. One positive aspect is office culture is probably going to move away from squeezing in as many people as possible into open offices. They were always breeding grounds for sickness.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I watched a pro-cop video game streamer discuss police reform for about five minutes before I realized I was wasting my time. He did bring up something that was interesting and gave me an idea for a concrete reform we could make. He was making some argument about how there are degrees to resisting arrest and the more extreme attempts can result in perfectly justified use of lethal force. In the U.S. "resisting arrest" is an additional criminal charge and often times people can arrested only to be later charged with just "resisting arrest" to an unlawful arrest.

We should consider abolishing or modifying what constitutes a resisting arrest charge. At the very least it shouldn't be a standalone charge. Small acts of resisting that doesn't result in physical or serious harm shouldn't warrant a charge. To balance it out, serious acts of resisting arrest (biting an officer, grabbing at their guns, etc.) should result in more serious penalties than they are now. I don't have a problem with serious penalties and punishment. But it is important for punishment to not be unreasonable.
I don't know, it seems most things are misdemeanours but resisting arrest is a felony?

I've seen enough episodes of 'Cops' where the officer says "you're under arrest" and the suspect says "OK what do you want me to do sir" and the officer responds with "you didn't immediately prostrate yourself THATS RESISTING ARREST hard time for you motherfucker"
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SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


They'll never ever quarantine again. People would revolt, especially now that we know for certain that it only really impacts old people.
So if we can't do another round of quarantine then what should we do? Do you have any ideas or suggestions than to just let people die?
Just have to isolate the nursing homes better. 40,000 people died in nursing homes from the virus. I think people will keep wearing masks, and people who can work from home will, but there's no reason stores can't be open right now. There's no reason schools can't open in the fall. My kids day care/preschool reopens on Monday. One positive aspect is office culture is probably going to move away from squeezing in as many people as possible into open offices. They were always breeding grounds for sickness.
Schools are completely unprepared to deal with this sort of thing. And no one knows what to do. I can tell you for a fact. I work in these things until the good people of NJ diversity hire me as a cop instead of your family members.

The only solution other than massive spending to modify how schools function will just result in virus spread among students and then outside communities.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:


So if we can't do another round of quarantine then what should we do? Do you have any ideas or suggestions than to just let people die?
Just have to isolate the nursing homes better. 40,000 people died in nursing homes from the virus. I think people will keep wearing masks, and people who can work from home will, but there's no reason stores can't be open right now. There's no reason schools can't open in the fall. My kids day care/preschool reopens on Monday. One positive aspect is office culture is probably going to move away from squeezing in as many people as possible into open offices. They were always breeding grounds for sickness.
Schools are completely unprepared to deal with this sort of thing. And no one knows what to do. I can tell you for a fact. I work in these things until the good people of NJ diversity hire me as a cop instead of your family members.

The only solution other than massive spending to modify how schools function will just result in virus spread among students and then outside communities.
Outside of that kawasaki blip people go worked up over, they still haven't shown kids carry or transmit it. If anything, it would be teachers infecting other teachers. Shut down the faculty lounge? Either way, for people under 50 the sickness isn't a big deal.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


If you said any of this in the US you'd be labeled a racist. The problem is systemic racism and oppression. Those blacks in your statistics are poor because white people exploited them and marginalized them, not due to any of their own personal choices. Those cops need to understand that the reasons police get involved isn't to stop crime, it's to crack down on culture.

Your opinion as a straight white male can not encompass the experience of growing up in a patriarchal society as a marginalized and persecuted person of color. Instead of criticizing your ethnic minorities and saying they earn extra policing, you need to check your privilege.
I label anyone who complains about getting labeled a racist as racist. That's an admission of guilt if I ever saw one. Like complaining about people calling you a pedophile.

I am pretty even-handed when it comes to this race stuff. I can have Uzique, Ken, and GS vouch that I am not a #BLM person.
My wife is on the board of directors for the charity that runs an all-girls sleepaway camp. Over the past week her charity has been under attack by one former camper, who is black, and is now using social media to blast the camp for an experience that she says was racist and life altering almost twenty years ago. Now, this camp is mostly white girls, but it's as liberal as it gets. I joke that it's really a lesbian in training camp. Anyway, so this girl, with her twenty year old grudge has called out a person on the board over her racism. Fine. Her comment wasn't racist any way you spin it, but whatever.

[She was given a toy gun by a British camper as her secret santa present and broke down in tears over it. The woman she is accusing of racism asked her "are you crying because you are black and you think that is offensive?". So, a microaggression if anything.]

So, because of the moment, and because the people on the board are genuinely good people for the most part, they've been trying to relate to her and say how sorry they are etc. She's been taking every one of their comments, posting them on social media, and ripping them apart. She's now demanding a paid position on their board for her and two of her friends as a diversity member, because they need to be paid for their experience as black women in America.

This is extortion, and it's the logical extension of the politics uzi likes to parade around in. Reparations. Original sin. Wait til it happens to you and you are on the verge of having your life destroyed because you've empowered minorities with social nuclear weapons and they know they hold all the power.
settle it in court? sounds like a nonsense claim and would immediately be recognised as such.

i guess any attempts to point out structural racism are doomed because of this.
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Larssen wrote:

Statistical asymmetry is unavoidable as most predominantly immigrant communities are also (very) poor, have high unemployment, have bad or at best brittle relations with surrounding communities and suffer high crime rates as a result of these factors. Emergency hotline deployments and subsequent policing are far, far more common than in any other community. Of course that means more arrests and killings will happen in immigrant neighbourhoods and involving immigrants. Relatively it will be much more compared to white populations.

If the UK fatality rate of black people is even 5 times as high as the average it would still be among the lowest overall rates on the planet. Of course perhaps cause for concern, but nonetheless pretty damn good.

I drew an equivalence based on your comment. The largest pegida demonstrations drew almost 30.000 people. Still didn't justify the cause. Anyway, as I stated, protest in people's own context and with their own grievances, fine. But to speak of police brutality when there barely is any, gtfo.

Oh and it was a train in belgium.
I think most people around the world can see which way the police are going in most countries.

This is what police looked like when I was a kid

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7050e47cc4429c0480418fc314e8210d.webp

This is what they look like now.

https://live.staticflickr.com/3191/2612091385_eb3cd86a51_b.jpg

Britain has certainly had many examples of Police brutality and extreme corruption - I've been on the end of that.

Who would have thought this would happen to peaceful demonstrators in the birthplace of democracy?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/resources/images/6104134/

I think a lot of people around the world are seeing how America has gone and want to nip it in the bud in their own country.
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