the rioting and every killing has been labelled as done by antifa by the right
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There is a global coalition against Trump made up of checks notes Antifa, the FBI, "The Deep State", Anarchist, Communist, Social Justice Warriors, China, Iran, Canada, France, Germany deep breath Muslims, La Raza, The Black Panthers, the Democrats, Hollywood, Political Media, and former people who worked for him in the White House.
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I'm watching the protest streams. These soldiers and cops aren't wearing face mask. They are face to face getting yelled at by rioters without any mask which means they aren't wearing them in the barracks or the stations either. Republicans in a few weeks are going to be laughing about how many protesters got sick and completely ignore how many cops and National Guard guys got it too. Especially in D.C. where we have thousands of National Guard now.
James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution 6/5
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … li=BBnb2gh
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … li=BBnb2gh
Useless in an argument against a Trumper because they've already decided that Mattis is persona non grata (despite the president's own high opinion of him back in 2016). "He should just go away." "He lost, he's not a good politician."“When I joined the military, some 50 years ago,” he writes, “I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”
i think it's really interesting that the white house frequently post Actually Fake News, rescind it or take it down, but know really that the damage has already been done. the right-wing websites and blogs will run those stories and videos with the same wrong context/misrepresentations, and the division will be further sundered between 'right' and 'left', 'patriots' and 'antifas', etc.
i also think it's really curious that the term 'anti-fascist' has become such a controversial one, deserving of such opprobrium. er, isn't every right-thinking (in the sense of rectitude, not political suasion) an anti-fascist? what sort of fucking democrat citizen is pro-fa?
i also think it's really curious that the term 'anti-fascist' has become such a controversial one, deserving of such opprobrium. er, isn't every right-thinking (in the sense of rectitude, not political suasion) an anti-fascist? what sort of fucking democrat citizen is pro-fa?
Libertarians and anarchists both want no government. Is there anything to pick between the two ideologies?Jay wrote:
I find it amazing how you all flip on a dime. The riots and anarchy are good, solid, expressions of rage and anger. Holding beliefs that the federal government is overly expansive is somehow dangerous? Oh my. Anarchy good. Strong national government good. Libertarians bad. Gotcha. Makes total sense.
Most libertarians are really assholes or anarchists.
Wouldn't PT outfits make more sense? Thats how most of the protesters have dressed.Jay wrote:
Soldiers always wear camouflage uniforms unless it is a dress uniform or pt uniform.
Fuck Israel
"Hey look at all those protesters playing a game. It's a game to them!" -jayuziq wrote:
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1268295156345733121
We would need to make it so that the next president just can't overturn everything. I still think police should ideally be under local governance, but there should be national rules that are not easy to bend, break, or ignore.you guys need to just start over with the police in the US.
I'm 99% I've posted this article recently:
Trump Killed Obama’s Police Reforms. Now He’s Getting What He Asked For. 5/31
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05 … eling.html
Trumpers have also decided that Sessions is horrible. Not because of his horrible legacy, but because he balked on following some of Trump's demands.The last few years of the Obama administration were one of the most productive periods of criminal justice reform in American history. The Obama administration changed sentencing guidelines to reduce the disparity in the treatment of drug crimes that had disproportionately harmed black defendants. As part of an effort to inculcate a “guardian, not a warrior” mindset, it restricted the transfer of surplus military equipment to police departments. Most importantly, it formed consent decrees with more than a dozen police departments to force them to change their practices.
These reforms did not root out brutality and racism. They were mild both in form and intent, undertaken with the goal of conciliating police and their communities, believing that enhancing trust would ultimately create safer conditions for police as well as those who fear them. It was the epitome of evolutionary cultural change.
This was the context for Trump’s nightmarish claims in 2016 that cities were being overtaken by bloodshed and carnage. Whatever wisps of data he could cite to support his wild rhetoric, Trump was drawing a picture borrowed from the imaginations of resentful police who experienced Obama’s carefully drawn nudges as intolerable oppression.
He reversed them swiftly. Trump’s first attorney general, Jeff Sessions, ended the restriction on transferring military equipment to police, reviewed all consent decrees struck by his predecessor, and then restricted their use going forward. “It is not the responsibility of the federal government to manage non-federal law enforcement agencies,” he insisted.
- LA TimesThe president had publicly mocked and belittled the nation’s top lawman ever since Sessions recused himself last year from supervising the investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 presidential race. But Trump waited until after Tuesday’s midterm election to force Sessions out — and to choose a critic of the probe as his temporary replacement.
It says something that there is protesting in all fifty states over this.if this is the consequence of going on 20 years of perpetual warfare in the middle-east, you need to re-think that military-industrial economy, too.
something has badly soured in your society where your police, across so many departments and states, are all equipped, trained and act like this. i don't know if you just have a uniquely aggressive and violent culture, or whatever, but this is shocking to see in any democracy.
Opponents of Obama's presidency enjoyed calling it a regime. Yet here we are pushing peaceful protests away from positions of power. Despite gassing Episcopal priests handing out food, water, and hand sanitizer, the country is still probably distant from its own Kristallnacht. But it's getting more and more difficult to scoff at drawable comparisons.
Stand by for more corona, though.
Already calling it: I'm going to be hearing about the protesters' 2020 coup attempt from my Republican friends soon.
From back in 2014, though recently resurfaced.
@1:10, chief comments about other violence done. He sounds passionate about it. But people should not have to also worry about abuse of force from police leading to injury and death. I mean, doesn't that sound like a reasonable sentiment? "Stop resisting" is such a meme.
The comments really say it all though. Tone-deaf "all lives matter," "owned the critics," "mic drop," "not worried about 'political correctness.'" I don't think that was his intent.
@1:10, chief comments about other violence done. He sounds passionate about it. But people should not have to also worry about abuse of force from police leading to injury and death. I mean, doesn't that sound like a reasonable sentiment? "Stop resisting" is such a meme.
The comments really say it all though. Tone-deaf "all lives matter," "owned the critics," "mic drop," "not worried about 'political correctness.'" I don't think that was his intent.
the divisiveness and adversarial nature of your society is determined at the top. they set the tone. the right-wing media and trump are responsible for so much of this. your democracy has been gradually undermined and fellow-feeling purposefully extirpated.
no wonder that a bunch of violent thugs, racists, anti-social libertarians etc have been emboldened by the trump presidency. now you have to justify wearing a facemask during a pandemic because you're a 'liberal pussy', defend yourself against charges of 'thinking like a woman', and patiently re-explain to 40% of the population why police murdering black people is Not Good.
from the outside your country looks more unhinged and deranged than even bolsonaro's brazil. at least they are a second-world developing economy. they've had military dictatorships in living memory and are acknowledged as corrupt and unstable. what the fuck is going on in america? this strongman thing is really not working well for you.
no wonder that a bunch of violent thugs, racists, anti-social libertarians etc have been emboldened by the trump presidency. now you have to justify wearing a facemask during a pandemic because you're a 'liberal pussy', defend yourself against charges of 'thinking like a woman', and patiently re-explain to 40% of the population why police murdering black people is Not Good.
from the outside your country looks more unhinged and deranged than even bolsonaro's brazil. at least they are a second-world developing economy. they've had military dictatorships in living memory and are acknowledged as corrupt and unstable. what the fuck is going on in america? this strongman thing is really not working well for you.
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It's just a matter of time until we get a woman dying like that one from Iran 11 years ago.uziq wrote:
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1268043104822665218?s=20
ACAB
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9oltq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Neda_Agha-Soltan
I don't expect it will change anything though.
here is another angle.
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/statu … 38336?s=20
i guess not being humble and listening to protests is wise. that looks like attempted murder, to me. remember violence begets violence guys!
i wonder if your president not expressing any contrition or humility could be something to do with it? and instead whipping up military metaphors and threatening force might, too? hmm make u think
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/statu … 38336?s=20
i guess not being humble and listening to protests is wise. that looks like attempted murder, to me. remember violence begets violence guys!
i wonder if your president not expressing any contrition or humility could be something to do with it? and instead whipping up military metaphors and threatening force might, too? hmm make u think
turns out that 16-year-old kid was shot in the head unprovoked and without warning by a beanbag round, sniped, really, and had a serious concussion. undergoing neurological testing for brain damage.
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/ … n-protest/
that's attempted murder, get the fuck outta here.
of course, his family couldn't afford to pay the medical bills, either.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/brad-levi-ayala
that twitter thread has 200+ instances of shit like this. lmao.
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/ … n-protest/
that's attempted murder, get the fuck outta here.
of course, his family couldn't afford to pay the medical bills, either.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/brad-levi-ayala
that twitter thread has 200+ instances of shit like this. lmao.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
why don't you respond to the 200+ examples above, jay? why do you gloss over that? a 16 year old put in a concussive coma by a bean-bag round? for standing around in support of a cause? he wasn't even in a crowd being dispersed, or hanging around after a curfew. officers casually took aim at him, and shot with potentially lethal force.Jay wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/nypd-cops-shot-in-confrontation-with-suspect-in-brooklyn/
you seem awfully concerned about police for a libertarian. are you sure you don't need a new fancy-sounding label for yourself? it could be your 15th metamorphosis. emerge from your grub phase!
yes, it's regrettable that lone actors can go on rampages and hurt officers in the line of duty. people can snap and police are often in the face of danger. nobody is denying that. but what about the hundreds of examples above of police shooting people unprovoked, gassing peaceful protests? what's the relevance of your article, exactly? society entrusts police with weapons and the legal right to apply force in situations like the above. the entire point of these protests is that police are misusing those powers to kill people.
https://twitter.com/ChefAnthonyDC/statu … 9716571138
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Because I give zero fucks about your twitter feed. You want me to get worked up about videos that edit out the ten hours of instigation and only include the five seconds of reaction? I honestly don't care whatsoever. When you go out and tangle with the police during a protest you want me to feel bad when you get your ass beat? You want me to sympathize with you and pat you on the back? No. Sorry. There are productive ways to get what you want that don't involve behaving like a mob and demanding a lynching.uziq wrote:
why don't you respond to the 200+ examples above, jay? why do you gloss over that? a 16 year old put in a concussive coma by a bean-bag round? for standing around in support of a cause? he wasn't even in a crowd being dispersed, or hanging around after a curfew. officers casually took aim at him, and shot with potentially lethal force.Jay wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/nypd-cops-shot-in-confrontation-with-suspect-in-brooklyn/
you seem awfully concerned about police for a libertarian. are you sure you don't need a new fancy-sounding label for yourself? it could be your 15th metamorphosis. emerge from your grub phase!
yes, it's regrettable that lone actors can go on rampages and hurt officers in the line of duty. people can snap and police are often in the face of danger. nobody is denying that. but what about the hundreds of examples above of police shooting people unprovoked, gassing peaceful protests? what's the relevance of your article, exactly?
https://twitter.com/ChefAnthonyDC/statu … 9716571138
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
a 16 year old stood on a hillside protesting is not 'instigating' anything with the police.
a libertarian who is dismissive of the first amendment? LOL.
you are a fucking idiot.
a libertarian who is dismissive of the first amendment? LOL.
you are a fucking idiot.
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I'm not dismissive of the first amendment, I'm dismissive of false victimhood. Where's that monty python clip that someone embedded a few weeks ago when those idiots with the rifles were protesting in Michigan? Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!uziq wrote:
a 16 year old stood on a hillside protesting is not 'instigating' anything with the police.
a libertarian who is dismissive of the first amendment? LOL.
you are a fucking idiot.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
you are a simpering little fascist manlet.
'false victimhood'. which part of this confuses you?
'false victimhood'. which part of this confuses you?
your opinion on their grievances is fucking irrelevant.the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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Ok, you're a bitch, little man.uziq wrote:
you are a simpering little fascist manlet.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Yeah, peaceably.uziq wrote:
you are a simpering little fascist manlet.
'false victimhood'. which part of this confuses you?your opinion on their grievances is fucking irrelevant.the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat