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SuperJail Warden
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Larssen wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

There can be good forms of nationalism. A belief in a society of people held together by a common culture and interest is beneficial for development.
That isn't nationalism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_nationalism
Jay
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Larssen wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

There can be good forms of nationalism. A belief in a society of people held together by a common culture and interest is beneficial for development.
That isn't nationalism.
Of course it is. It's not all waving flags and armies marching to destroy other nations. It's simply a matter of putting your nation and it's people and its culture first. It is anti-globalism.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Larssen
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No, what he wrote describes any form of social community. You're now linking to a civic nationalism page which is way different from just believing in 'a society held together by common culture and interest'. Nationalism is much more political at its core as it's about state power more than anything. National identity relies on a carefully constructed selective historical narrative, is strongly reliant on symbolism (flag waving etc), is geographically defined, ascribes certain 'core values' to the people living in a given area and most importantly couples all of this to a national government. It's a means to empower the state by attempting to remove the lines between itself & all the peoples living under its authority and to mobilise the populace for its purposes.

The symbolism is an important part because once you actually scrutinise those 'core values' which nationalists cling to you'll see they're vague at best and might not be so different from those of other peoples / nations anywhere. It then comes down to geography, state identity and symbols to forcibly delineate between national communities.

Last edited by Larssen (2019-09-13 23:26:27)

uziq
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this guy ^ fucks
Dilbert_X
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Race, he forgot race.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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blood and soil, a totally credible theory.
SuperJail Warden
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Larssen wrote:

mmf mmf mmf
The deconstruction of nationalism is just a bunch of Jewish college professors linking any form of non-globalist ideology to Nazi Germany and World War 2 because they need westerners to support Zionism and not question why Jewish business leaders have a disproportionate amount of influence in western nations. Of course these same business leaders also want people to not see themselves as a collective but instead as individual consumers whose identity is in what they buy and their hobbies. Sometimes the things they buy is Jon Stewart memorabilia other times it is opiates from a Jewish pharmaceutical company.
Larssen
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You lot are such dumb fucks.
Dilbert_X
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Larssen wrote:

You lot are such dumb fucks.
You were going to call me a Nazi weren't you?
Epstein didn't kill himself
Larssen
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A tiny minority of the academics writing on nationalism in the last half century were jewish. Many of them actually german. So much for your insufferable, idiotic focus on a grand jewish conspiracy.

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DesertFox-
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tHe JeWs ArE tHe ReAl NaZiS
Dilbert_X
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Say 'Heil' to your masters.

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Epstein didn't kill himself
SuperJail Warden
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Jewish owned and run Hollywood studios make a concerted effort to defame Christian organizations and promote atheism. They exaggerate things like the priest sex abuse scandal to disrupt Catholic organization. Even though a country that believes in Catholic social policies like healthcare and education would be a great thing, the Hollywood Jews help prevent it since Jews didn't have a good time in Catholic countries in the past.
Dilbert_X
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I've noticed that war films and documentaries no longer mention Germans, its always Nazis now.
The Germans are being rehabilitated because they're now on side.

I look forward to some Hollywood feature films on Epstein, Weinstein and this woman who Israel is refusing to extradite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adass_Isr … se_scandal
#Jews #paedophilia #protectyourown

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Epstein didn't kill himself
Larssen
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Maybe you should watch Unsere Mütter, Unsere Väter and then you'll understand more clearly why there has been a push to delineate between nazis and germans. Long before that series was made actually, but it again has NOTHING to do with jews.

You're not a nazi Dilbert, but you and the other bloke are definitely very racist. There's no other way to put it. Instead of actually trying to understand anything, you consistently fall back on your shitty lens of 'jewish conspiracy' and racialism so that you don't need to put any thought into analysing world events. It's pitiful that you somehow even try to equate national socialism to globalism / the European Union (what the fuck???) so that you can justify this imbecile logic. It's clear you're completely on board with the Farage train.

Your kind is the same people who propagated the Dolchstoßlegende (stab-in-the-back myth for you) in the 1920s/1930s.

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uziq
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are you really blaming the cause of zionism and jews worldwide for the sackler family's depredations? like their jewishness is an active and operative principle there, and not, you know, the way private pharma and pill clinics operate across america within its legal and regulatory networks? i'm sure it's the fact they've had circumcisions that makes the malefic drug-peddlers. mention the blood libel! mention the blood libel!!
Dilbert_X
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Yes, the Germans would like to be rehabilitated and present themselves as unwilling victims of the Nazis - the question is why is Hollywood helping them.

Insults and unsupported arguments - how am I 'completely on board with the Farage train'? I'm not pro-Brexit.

'Your kind' ha and you call me a racist.

Jews leaching off the community they're in and stacking up their gold whatever the human cost has been a thing since The Merchant of Venice, probably before even.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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dilbert i'm sure you are familiar with 20th century historiography and the legacy of nazism in germany. it's an issue that has been worked out by about two generations of germans and you're presenting it as if it's a marvel comic movie plot.
Dilbert_X
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You haven't addressed the point.
Epstein didn't kill himself
Larssen
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unsere mütter unsere väter wasn't hollywood. It's german.

'I'm not pro brexit' yet equate the EU and Germany's position in it as some sort of continuation of nazi ideology and somehow dead set on the idea that a no deal brexit was and is the right outcome to the referendum. What.

Your kind, the kind that's into dumbshit conspiracies.

And again a tirade against jews. I mean if I were american it would still be a ridiculous argument but would make more sense I guess, but I'm 6000 KM away. Why the fuck are we always talking about billionaires in the US who happen to be Jewish and Israel?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

The question was:

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union [  ]

Leave the European Union                       [   ]
Not


Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union [  ]

Leave the European Union but only if we can negotiate a deal which involves continuing to be a part of Europe, continuing to pay into Europe, remaining part of the common market and ensuring the Irish are OK with their border with Northern Ireland and if not Parliament should be free to ignore the people who put an X in this box              [  ]
Epstein didn't kill himself
Dilbert_X
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Larssen wrote:

unsere mütter unsere väter wasn't hollywood. It's german.
Yes I know, you raised it not me.
'I'm not pro brexit' yet equate the EU and Germany's position in it as some sort of continuation of nazi ideology and somehow dead set on the idea that a no deal brexit was and is the right outcome to the referendum. What.
The Germans had two attempts in living memory at total domination of Europe by military means, the third attempt was through political means.

Dilbert_X wrote:

The question was:

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union [  ]

Leave the European Union                       [   ]
Not


Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union [  ]

Leave the European Union but only if we can negotiate a deal which involves continuing to be a part of Europe, continuing to pay into Europe, remaining part of the common market and ensuring the Irish are OK with their border with Northern Ireland and if not Parliament should be free to ignore the people who put an X in this box              [  ]
Uzique seems to think parliament should ignore the referendum and do whatever it wants - because that suits him.
How would it be if Parliament started ignoring elections too?

"Yeah we know Labour got more of the votes, but I don't think the voters were fully informed and didn't really think through the consequences of changing from Conservative to Labour so what we're going to do is just continue with a Conservative government until the voters come to their senses and realise they should vote Conservative, because you know a margin of 3-4% isn't much, pretty well within the margin of error and the turnout was quite low so it didn't really count so lets just forget about it and hope everyone forgets."
Your kind, the kind that's into dumbshit conspiracies.

And again a tirade against jews. I mean if I were american it would still be a ridiculous argument but would make more sense I guess, but I'm 6000 KM away. Why the fuck are we always talking about billionaires in the US who happen to be Jewish and Israel?
Well there are conspiracies, 'your kind' either ignores them or is happy to see them progress.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2019-09-15 07:34:55)

Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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where have i ignored the referendum result? a hell of a lot of brexit-voting, anti-europa tory MPs had the whip removed from them last week FOR THE EXACT SAME REASONS and objections i have outlined above. are they just a bunch of 'pouting' (you seem obsessed with this word; do you fancy me dilbert?) remainer sheeples?
Larssen
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How does your timeline even work? The European Union was founded in the 1950s. The idea of the monetary and political union was born in the 1980s. If you didn't know, Germany at the time wasn't exactly a European powerhouse and through most of the 90s it was noted as 'the sick man of Europe' due to the financial/social/political strain caused by the reunification. How the fuck was the EU a german 'initiative for domination' when the country was still beaten and broken from WW2 even 40-50 years later? To top it off you don't even seem to know how the Union functions. Important decisions are only made through consensus and every country has a veto. How then is one minor power supposed to dominate on a continent that has several regional powers?

This is so fucking tedious. All you do is vomit out baseless conspiracies and outright falsehoods putting the burden of proof on everyone else. Almost every single post is comprised of unsubstantiated, unsourced one-liners that read like a collection of daily mail headlines. And in the end it always circles back to 'the jews'. Do you even see the irony in your apparent disdain for racialist thinking of early 20th century Europe considering the views on race, statehood and politics you hold?

Last edited by Larssen (2019-09-15 09:51:42)

uziq
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dilbert doesn't have disdain for racialist thinking. dilbert is a racialist or a 'scientific racist' avant la lettre.

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