I'm amazed that not only do you think giving the government the absolute power to dictate faith is a great idea, but that it would actually work that easily.Dilbert_X wrote:
Yes it is.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Forcing everyone into the homogeneous, insufferable mold of obnoxious modern atheism is hardly better than forced conversion to Islam.Great, then it won't be part of public life, politicians won't have to pander to them, we won't have to worry if they're offended, if they're caught they can be deported - its win all round.Besides, it wouldn't work. Worship would just go underground like it always has.
Umm... point?KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
KoC are a catholic organization. who'd have thought there would be Italians that are part of a ROMAN CATHOLIC organization?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Of course you can't dictate faith, what you can do is exclude people with severe mental delusions from playing an active role in society.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I'm amazed that not only do you think giving the government the absolute power to dictate faith is a great idea, but that it would actually work that easily.Dilbert_X wrote:
Yes it is.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Forcing everyone into the homogeneous, insufferable mold of obnoxious modern atheism is hardly better than forced conversion to Islam.Great, then it won't be part of public life, politicians won't have to pander to them, we won't have to worry if they're offended, if they're caught they can be deported - its win all round.Besides, it wouldn't work. Worship would just go underground like it always has.
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meta: the idea of a rational, ordered and stable society/economy based on supposedly 'universal' liberal ideals is the biggest mental delusion of them all, a category error mistaking narrowly successful scientific and rationalist rubrics for whole organic social systems.
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Progress: Forward or onward movement, as toward a destination
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a few historians got bored of talking about progress right after the French Revolution, and most have been coming around ever since. the stupidest looking historian in the world nowadays is Fukuyama, who went one step further than the western progress nonsense and declared that the whole world was now in an eternal liberal democratic paradise. history is not an equation.
Historians aren't renowned for being interested in achieving progress.
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no one claimed historians achieve progress.
historians pretty much live in the past.
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Anyway, a student in South Carolina was on her cellphone in class and the teacher wanted to confiscate it. She refused to hand it over and was told to leave class but did not comply. So the teacher called the school resource officer and then this happened.
That seemed excessive. But what do you do when the student refuses to leave the class room?
That seemed excessive. But what do you do when the student refuses to leave the class room?
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I think the private one just showed the same angles anyway.RTHKI wrote:
well ones already private
Looking at the video it appears the Police officer was assaulting a black person.
How is this news?
How is this news?
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I mentioned it in the college union threadRTHKI wrote:
Anyone else been following Mizzou
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That doesn't look good. Probably isn't smart to walk around with a knife.
doesnt look good for either of them. with a knife out maybe.
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Do you know if the car had audio or not?
In any case, the local prosecutor threw the officer under the bus and charged him with first degree murder. Justified or not, it was the smart thing to do for them. What is one officer worth compared to weeks of riots and months of disorder?
In any case, the local prosecutor threw the officer under the bus and charged him with first degree murder. Justified or not, it was the smart thing to do for them. What is one officer worth compared to weeks of riots and months of disorder?
One way or another, I'm just glad we have video of the incident. Nothing is worse than speculating on what happened.
Took them fucking long enough. and how about the police allegedly deleting the Burger King cctv footage.
How is the officer being thrown under the bus? It's more than a coincidence (despite the prosecutor's statements) that they went public with charging the police officer within days of the video being released to the public, despite the shooting happening more than a year ago.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Do you know if the car had audio or not?
In any case, the local prosecutor threw the officer under the bus and charged him with first degree murder. Justified or not, it was the smart thing to do for them. What is one officer worth compared to weeks of riots and months of disorder?
If you don't hold people accountable for their actions, they will continue to have an ability to abuse their power. And if you continue with misrepresentation of the facts and withholding evidence and results of internal investigations, you are going to rightfully be questioned.
I don't know anything about this case, but it appears that he was running from the cops and when the cops caught up with him he didn't surrender and pulled out (a knife?).
I never saw him directly threaten the police with the knife, I would hope that non lethal force would be the first response when an officer has tons of backup like this situation.
BUT, the knife was on the opposite side of the kid and if the officer thought it to be a gun, as it was pulled from the kids pocket on opposite side from cops view. If the cop ordered him to stop and show hands in the air when he went to pull something from his pocket, this is completely justified. I would have shot too. You don't wait and see if it is a gun, or people die.
If I was on the jury and this tape is all I have to go on, I wouldn't convict. I don't think the cop woke up that day and said "I'm gonna kill me a nigger". It is certainly nothing worth rioting over. There are plenty of real cases of abuse by officers, and I don't see someone running from cops and not complying worthy of getting worked up over.
Put yourself in the cops shoes. This was a chase, they pulled up he got out of car, drew gun, and (most likely) gave orders that were not followed by someone running from cops while pulling something from pocket. hmmmm, darwin at work.
I never saw him directly threaten the police with the knife, I would hope that non lethal force would be the first response when an officer has tons of backup like this situation.
BUT, the knife was on the opposite side of the kid and if the officer thought it to be a gun, as it was pulled from the kids pocket on opposite side from cops view. If the cop ordered him to stop and show hands in the air when he went to pull something from his pocket, this is completely justified. I would have shot too. You don't wait and see if it is a gun, or people die.
If I was on the jury and this tape is all I have to go on, I wouldn't convict. I don't think the cop woke up that day and said "I'm gonna kill me a nigger". It is certainly nothing worth rioting over. There are plenty of real cases of abuse by officers, and I don't see someone running from cops and not complying worthy of getting worked up over.
Put yourself in the cops shoes. This was a chase, they pulled up he got out of car, drew gun, and (most likely) gave orders that were not followed by someone running from cops while pulling something from pocket. hmmmm, darwin at work.
The kid was dumb but the cop emptied a magazine into him. People like that shouldn't be cops.
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So completely unsurprising coming from you, MS.
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