Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

You were part of the problem, dil. But glad to see that after your exhaustive scientific research, you ruled in favor of getting vaccinated.
How was I part of the problem? I didn't want a vaccine with a non-zero risk of death or disability when there were better ones available.
Seems the majority of my fellow citizens agreed.
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unnamednewbie13
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The "majority of fellow citizens" can agree on some really pretty stupid stuff. That's not really a good measure of what decision you should make on a health item.

I'm surprised you even have to ask "how."

AZ was sucked into the misinformation vortex. Even Macron was lying about it iirc, or just being an idiot. The power of all the shit and out-of-context interpretations coming from irresponsible reporting and political statements was so strong that it was even sweeping up non anti-vaxxers. I had people who I'm pretty sure thought I was a flip of a coin from blood clot fatality when they learned I went and got the jab (Pfizer for me). They are not anti-vax in the usual sense.

These people, like you, helped carry this by hopping onto social media and fear/rumormongering about the vaccines. From the wildest conspiracies down to "I think I'll wait for a bit." Some of those people are dead, from COVID-19.

As I recall, earlier this year less than 1% of the doses of AZ given had reported side effects. And of those, most of them were minor and non-threatening. A couple dozen blood clots out of then millions and millions of doses administered is very negligible (like .0001%?) when you take into consideration the net gain of stamping out COVID-19.

"Non-zero chance," are you even an engineer? How do you ever get a product out.
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'Hopping onto Social media' ?

The health minister announced the percentage risk
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-a … lood-clots

As a consequence the 'Australian Govt' never planned to give it to anyone under 50, then changed their minds and decided to offer the better alternative to everyone.

3.1/100,000 is a higher risk, and a 'non-zero chance'  than I'd like when the alternative is 0.0/100,000 thanks.
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uziq
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no vaccine has a 0.0/100,000 chance of adverse effects. even the miracle new-tech mRNA isn't without attendant risks.

you've taken TB jabs, MMR jabs, flu jabs -- as well as any number of prescription medications or over-the-counter stuff with a > 0.0/100,000 chance of adverse effects.

for a science-type you are really fucking illiterate.

the vaccines are MANY orders of magnitude safer than actually contracting covid-19.
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Dilbert, you don't care much about risk factors at all when it comes to human consumption of alcoholic beverages. I don't believe you think vaccines cause autism or anything, but you were caught up in the covid anti-vax stuff and were posting about it here. There are risk factors for the flu shot too.

That bottle of aspirin or tylenol on your desk has risk factors.
uziq
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drives a car.
shoots guns.
consumes alcohol.

but won't take one of the most-trialled vaccines in recent history. 'there's a risk and i don't like risk!'

it would be funny if he weren't an actual fucking engineer. you know, someone who deals with acceptable margins of error and risk every single day, and knows that, as in theoretical physics versus applied science, there are no perfect solutions.

human biology and pharmacology is a vastly complex – if not even partially stochastic – system. there are about umpteen layers of mutually interacting systems and mechanisms. inventing a perfect and harmless cure without upsetting the equilibrium of any other system is nigh-on impossible. but i guess you need to be an arts hipster who read literatoooor to grasp this fact.
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The U.S. Census Bureau reported on Thursday that the American population grew much more diverse over the past decade, with large increases in the populations of people who identify as Hispanic, Asian and more than one race.

The non-Hispanic white population declined by 2.6 percent since 2010, the bureau reported.  The African-American population grew 5.6 percent since 2010. The Asian population grew by 35 percent. The Hispanic population rose by 23 percent. People who reported being more than one race spiked, an unexpected surge that will draw considerable focus from demographers.

People who identified as non-Hispanic white made up 69 percent of the population in 2000. On Thursday, the Census Bureau reported that share stands at 58 percent.

Across the country, 36 percent of adults are non-white, up from 25 percent a decade ago. Children are now 47 percent non-white, up from 35 percent in 2010.

The Census Bureau also reported details on the overall slowing of population growth across the country over the past decade. In all, 52 percent of all counties lost population, according to the new data, the first detailed information on race, ethnicity and population at the local level from the 2020 census.

Population growth was most pronounced in larger counties; small counties as a group lost population.

Earlier this year,  the government reported that over the past decade the United States population grew at the second slowest rate since it started counting in 1790, a remarkable slackening that was driven by a slowdown in immigration and a declining birthrate.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/us/c … panic.html
The whole article is interesting but I highlighted the stuff newbie's coworkers will complain about during his shift at the pig farm.

Maybe if white people voted for Republicans harder another tax cut could turn their decline around. Also this probably won't help:
https://i.imgur.com/Q7u3JAA.png
COVID cases at the moment.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
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I don't work "shifts" though, and farming is pretty far from what I actually do. You were closer with your transmission shop stuff, but that too is off the mark. I'm operating in the multi-hatted twilight zone between middle management and CEO, and in and out of a practically consultancy. But the company isn't massive, so I can't just lock myself in an office for the duration of the day watching youtube. Sometimes I drive people to pick up work trucks, follow to drop off.

And have conversations with people who don't always agree with me on politics. I sometimes vent about it here, but this is probably fairly rare for you to find that opportunity in the world of public school teaching. Where you lot have a rather liberal reputation, but ironically are an instrumental part of the machine that churns out a worker bee populace clueless about things like entrepreneurship, money making, or even doing their taxes. Get a job, get paid, pay your bills. Live the "American dream" while barely making it, under the bootheel of corporate America. Yeah, yeah, your curriculum, but you guys should really be making more noise about this.
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Young Black New Yorkers are especially reluctant to get vaccinated, even as the Delta variant is rapidly spreading among their ranks. City data shows that only 28 percent of Black New Yorkers ages 18 to 44 years are fully vaccinated, compared with 48 percent of Latino residents and 52 percent of white residents in that age group.

This vaccination gap is emerging as the latest stark racial disparity in an epidemic full of them. Epidemiologists say they expect this third wave will hit Black New Yorkers especially hard.

“This is a major public health failure,” said Dr. Dustin Duncan, an epidemiologist and Columbia University professor.
Why won't they get vaccinated? What is wrong with them?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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It turns out that white hicks in lower wealth brackets weren't the only ones vulnerable to misinformation. "We're not sure about it!" even as some of the people weaving lies and half-truths get themselves and their own families vaccinated.
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My car battery died yesterday. The car was parked on the street. I got a ticket for parking as a non-resident. My car is registered as a resident and I was parked 2 blocks from my home. The ticket is $58. I am 99.9% sure I don't deserve this.

So I now have to call and set up a court date blah blah to dispute this ticket It will be difficult to withhold my contempt for the entirety of the judicial system while I explain to some pig man in a robe that my car is in fact registered to the city. If I beat this ticket I am going to donate $58 to Black Lives Matter or the NAACP out of spite. I also bought a shirt from Etsy to commemorate this historical injustice.
https://i.etsystatic.com/23523025/r/il/c6cec7/3287198717/il_794xN.3287198717_3avm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
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do meter maids really count as cops
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
SuperJail Warden
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It has an officer ID and police unit. It looks different from any meter maid ticket I have seen. I would trust a meter maid to not screw this up before I would trust a cop.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
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you should protest these draconian "parking passports" every day in front of city hall until your court date.
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I have the money to pay the ticket and the time to fight it. If I had neither this would have been a pretty bad situation?

Imagine you are a poor person, and your car battery dies. You need to figure out how to get the car running again and how to pay for that. While dealing with that headache, a cop gives you a ticket you don't deserve. So now you need to figure out how to come up with money for the ticket or a way to get to court to try to convince some old asshole in a robe to cut you slack on a ticket you don't deserve.

The cop just added a day of stress to my life that I don't deserve in order to enforce an ordinance meant to make it easier for boomer home owners to park their SUVs on the street. How is this good governance? How does this promote good police-community relations?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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Don't pay the fine and throw the battery through one of the windows at city hall

Or pay the fine but sit in bars grumbling about it into your drink for the rest of your life - you're a military veteran and this is how they repay you
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SuperJail Warden
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NJ is being overrun by lantern flies. First time I have ever seen these things. They are an invasive species from China.

Can we talk about the amount of invasive species coming from China? I guess it is important how we talk about this subject but it needs to broached. At some point people are going to realize we are being overrun with Chinese biohazards.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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invasive species come the same way that covid comes. and the same way that your cheap and tacky gundam toys come.
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uziq wrote:

invasive species come the same way that covid comes. and the same way that your cheap and tacky gundam toys come.
You are an invasive species.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
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I for one support any nerdy hobby mac engages in that distracts him from the pressing desire to kill and stuff neighborhood pets.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

NJ is being overrun by lantern flies.
https://i.redd.it/zh16ec94ysh71.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
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https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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I'm guessing you plucked the comment from the thread.

Are we really humoring this? Are ATM machines a race? Every time there's a video of a black guy attacking a white guy, some smartass posts "hate crime?" like it's a get-out-of-jail free card for verifiable hate crimes. "This is what liberals want for America!"

It's surprising you had to pluck this from a subreddit dedicated in part to violence porn. Nypost didn't even bother to censor it.
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LMAO

Major opposition and regional leaders have met India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi to argue in favour of counting caste in the country's census.

"A caste census will be a historic, pro-poor measure," Tejashwi Yadav, a leader of the regional Rashtriya Janata Dal (RJD), was quoted as saying by the Press Trust of India.

Mr Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party's decision not to do so has sparked a political maelstrom.

Hinduism's deeply hierarchical and oppressive caste system, which dates back some 2,000 years, puts Brahmins or priests at the top, and Dalits (formerly untouchables) and Adivasis (tribespeople) at the bottom.

In between are a multitude of castes - it's hard to even say how many because there is no list that has enumerated them all.

But there is a swathe of lower and intermediate castes, which are roughly believed to constitute about 52% of the population, that are recognised as Other Backward Classes or OBCs.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-58141993
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lmao, and?

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