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There are a lot of really hot Arabic girls. I could settle down with a Coptic girl. I say we let the Coptics and the Maronites (who did nothing in wrong in the civil war)  refugee to our lands.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

There are a lot of really hot Arabic girls. I could settle down with a Coptic girl. I say we let the Coptics and the Maronites (who did nothing in wrong in the civil war)  refugee to our lands.

oh shut up you overweening little cretin. you don't even attend church.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and … a_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kataeb_Party

Last edited by uziq (2020-10-28 06:21:40)

another tough guy who looks at gore subreddits and thinks he is ready for a culture war. the revolutionary front of camden, NJ.

the french president probably was a devil figure for many islamic people throughout the 20th century. algerians aren't exactly fond of de gaulle. we are not talking long or deep history, here. there is something decidedly suspect about the president of a 'secular' republic presiding over quite so much muslim-baiting.

I mean come on now. Are you really calling his statements muslim baiting?

Your stance is exactly the reason the far right has gained so much ground; such an incredible focus on being culturally sensitive to the point that whoever takes the most offence gets to decide what the social rules and norms are. It's as though you're implying that Macron saying France will 'keep its cartoons' and that 'Islam is in crisis' is some sort of undue insult of Islamic faith. If a large subset of one of the world's most powerful and largest religious communities flies into a rabid rage over such absolutely tame statements that's entirely their problem.

Meanwhile we have a turkish foreign minister calling people 'sons of whores' for caricaturing dear leader Erdogan. You're talking about restrained dialogue? They're combative, they want confrontation and there's a point where you have to draw a line.

The algerians won their independence in a bloody war, I think they'll find plenty pride in that fact.

Larssen wrote:

I mean come on now. Are you really calling his statements muslim baiting?

Your stance is exactly the reason the far right has gained so much ground;

Kick his ass Larssen

Last edited by SuperJail Warden (2020-10-28 07:06:42)

uziq wrote:

insulting a quarter of the world's population by announcing that their religion is effectively broken is not 'being overly culturally sensitive'.

macron's government have ample means to enact all the counter-terror legislation and raids they want. pissing off a bunch of otherwise moderate and uninvolved muslims is going to have a contrary effect. are you stupid? george w bush's 'crackdown' and 'war on terror' didn't achieve very much, did it? other than helping right-wing govts in the middle-east portray him as yet another 'christian crusader'.

the rhetoric only panders to the already right-wing and already anti-islamic. good luck getting rid of the problem by confronting the entire religion as a monolithic entity. i really wish you well. i suggest you are fucked.

There is no comparison to be made between the war on terror and a head of state saying a religion is in crisis. If civil and proxy wars between sunni and shia and the advent of religious terrorism aren't enough reason for you to say that, perhaps, the religious community is having problems, then what IS the problem uziq?

Larssen wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

The French are the saviours of Europe. Their defeat of the Muslims at Tours was one of the greatest victories in history.

Pls go play with your card games. Didn't you claim native americans descent as well? The love for medieval and colonial Europe is interesting to say the least.

My ancestors fought the Reconquista while your ancestors were collaborating with the Ottoman Turks.

uziq wrote:

we get it, you've played crusader kings for 2,000 hours. you haven't even left north america. you are literally nothing and no one.

What a hurtful thing to say. I am someone. Everyone is a someone.

Why are you putting everyone down in order to defend the murderous Muslims who would kill you and the bisexuals you publish?

why would he say it's a religion in crisis in response to a terror attack in france? what's the connection between that and sunni-shia?

the vagueness and casual elision of these matters is what makes it easy to portray him as a crusader who is specially singling out islam for some time-tested, age-old european laundering.

If we're talking about the relationship with regards to the west, the fact is that quite a few Islamic schools, through their dogmatism, rigidity, idealisation of the first caliphate, have a (very) hard time accepting or tolerating any progressive social ideas let alone western cultural norms, media or social practices. Qutb's writings weren't the ravings of a madman, and much of it perfectly defensible in the context of his environment. In the advent of a smaller and technologically connected world, that isolationist fundamentalism can be termed as a crisis within the religion as well.

to be sure, everything from the muslim brotherhood onwards is a fascistic strain in islam. but not an existential threat to the west, nor was it in 2001, either. only ever construed that way by right-wing conservatives and warhawks. the bigger terrorist threat to western nations thesedays is posed by the far-right, as recent FBI reports have portrayed - who, incidentally, love to portray the majority of law-abiding, peaceful, tax-paying muslims as 'threats' to society and 'incompatible' with our way of life.

again, really seems worth pissing off 1/4 of the world's population for. qutb and wahhabism, those enormous threats.

Last edited by uziq (2020-10-28 07:55:30)

I wonder how much dismissive language from far-right politicians and officials have contributed to the miserable COVID-19 deaths of over 200k Americans alone.

The relative peacefulness of American Muslims is probably related to the United States security services and broad culture clapping down on them so harshly. The Asian parent treatment.

White American radicalization is probably related to the fact that they have media and cultural institutions that encourage their negative feelings and sense of victim hood.

uziq wrote:

american muslims weren't responsible for 9/11. this may surprise you.

You know good point. We shouldn't let any foriegn Muslims travel or immigrate here since those are the real terrorist.