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Dilbert has clearly never heard of Wakanda.

uziq wrote:

shut the fuck up.

How liberal of you

we live in western liberal democracies with EQUALITY between all CITIZENS enshrined in LAW.

Exactly, BLM have nothing to protest over.
Some people got took drugs and overdosed or picked fights with the police while high.

did the women's suffrage or later women's lib movements end up with us being ruled in a tyrannical gynecocracy? people campaigning for their equal rights doesn't equal domination or anything being taken from you, for the umpteenth time.

Wholly irrelevant to race but well done, now find an ethnic group in Africa thats fighting for equality and not domination.

great response with your 'well, ackshually, proud boys aren't racist' nonsense, by the way.

Didn't say that but off you go.

Didn't BLM start off as 'Black Power'? Except Black Power doesn't mean Black Power except when it does.

Are you sure?

I thought the black power salute was the symbol of the black power movement but of course you're the expert.

Why is Gay Pride okay but White Pride isn't?

No Lives Matter

yes, indeed, and maybe all those neo-nazis are just waving to a friend on the other side of the road.

so your defense of proud boys doing the O-K white power symbol is that black athletes raise their fists or take a knee, too?

you are really not very good at analysis, are you?

the raised black fist is not associated with violent street gangs whose whole purpose and raison d'etre is to intimidate and assault people. it's associated with a civil rights movement.

can you tell the difference dilbert? you turn being obtuse into an art.

do you have any other fascinating analogies from the asian sub-continent? perhaps you can discredit BLM because of iraq's sectarianism? make u think doesn't it!

india definitely has a way to go with gender relations and gender equality, no question. but rape of a spouse was legal in the west until the 1980s/1990s. it still is in some pockets. and, yes, our culture has its fair share of rapists, abusers, misogynists, etc. the frat boys taking part in drunken initiations and seeing female coeds as meat aren’t exactly a civilisational leap ahead of indian men.

these are attitudes and cultural values that need to be called out and challenged. and attitudes, insofar as they have changed, have changed in the west because the afflicted group have raised their voices and made themselves heard. dilbert is probably highly critical of ‘metoo’, as well, of course. all those innocent men whose lives were ruined! yes, yes, it’s awful that hundreds of thousands of rapes go unpunished every year, and that there’s a culture of silence and shame surrounding the victims; but think of those poor swimming team stars, with bright futures ahead of them, etc etc...

Last edited by uziq (2020-09-30 07:15:49)

Dilbert when one is fighting structural inequality domination is so far away from the status quo it's not even worth considering. In fact, the implicit admission by groups like BLM is that in the current system they are at the mercy of powers that be, trying simply to rectify their circumstances through democratic means. And it is true: black people in the United States especially are completely overrepresented in ghettoes, low income housing projects, low wage labour, crime statistics, and death by police - they literally populate the bottom rungs of society in much larger numbers than anyone else. And as you well know, there is little power and wealth to be found among the poorest of the population.

If the aim were truly to subdue other identity groups, to dominate and impose, to circumvent democracy, you would see BLM behave like Al Qaeda.

The fact that I have to make these arguments angers me because I imagine you do actually equate them to terrorist groups, regardless of how stupid that logic is. It's disgusting that any movement for emancipation by the poorest community in the US is from your end met with disdain, derision and calls to discriminate against them. It is so clearly YOU who is unable to show empathy and who is intent on domination over others, solely based on your racial identity.

Last edited by Larssen (2020-09-30 08:17:47)

Maybe he means it in context of "if you're born here, you're 'native american.'" I remember that being quipped back and forth by people upset that the indians didn't want to be called indians or whatever.

*checks music thread* yep troll

referring to black britons as 'africans who happen to be in the UK' multiple times isn't racist or demeaning AT ALL, either.

never mind the fact that all of the hip-hop tracks i posted in that thread were made by african-americans

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