BF2S Forums Race relations thread

Let's not forget to mention that 99% of the ethnic identities of history are ... extinct! I don't see any gauls around anymore, or thracians. Where are the vikings & their traditions?

Maybe ... identity is a bit of a construct and can change over time, shocker.

A wikipedia article is no answer to the question. I also don't need wiki for this. Your base assumption is that people will not be able to get along purely based on identitarian boundaries, primarily ethnic or racial.

There are plenty examples of  functional societies around the world where these differences are in fact the norm, and have been for countless generations.

Last edited by Larssen (2020-08-20 06:55:31)

Indian muslims, hindus sikhs etc have failed to get along for centuriess, to the point they had to be partitioned, Indian hindus still don't get along with each other.
The jews have been practicing racism for about 4,000 years and aren't improving.

But yeah, racism will just 'disappear' in 5-6 generations.

Since this is the go-to cop thread,



If Hollis hadn't been chased away by questions (or if BF2S paid him to answer them like he wanted), maybe we could have gotten him to chime in with some apologetics. Was always interesting reading the spin.

I'm not sure that going after white people precludes police involvement in racial profiling, but interesting take.

I dunno, blacks do seem to tend to act up when they come into contact with law enforcement.

I read an article a long time ago about how the UK Met police suggested black people get more trouble when they're stopped.
For whatever cultural reason black people tend to look away when they're talking and look people in the eye when they're listening whereas white people do the opposite.
White people take looking away while talking as an indicator they're lying, and looking in the eye while listening as threatening.
Black people also tend to be more fidgety and wave their arms around more, same points as above.

They fidget and wave their arms around.

Dilbert_X wrote:

I read an article a long time ago about how the UK Met police suggested black people get more trouble when they're stopped.
For whatever cultural reason black people tend to look away when they're talking and look people in the eye when they're listening whereas white people do the opposite.
White people take looking away while talking as an indicator they're lying, and looking in the eye while listening as threatening.
Black people also tend to be more fidgety and wave their arms around more, same points as above.

you’ve cited this nonsense about 4 times in your time at bf2s.

it’s so fucking funny. it’s almost like phrenology. ‘the black is a shoddy creature. he speaks a strange ebonic language. he cannot make eye contact like the noble white. this puts the civilised police man on edge’.

even if that were true (and it’s not, and i strongly get the impression you have never had a conversation with a melanin-rich person in your entire life), it’s the police’s jon to undergo training, not to simply go around choking and killing innocent members of the public.

your little theory honestly makes you sound like a deranged dog trainer with a facebook page. ‘eye contact is intimidating to this species. assert your alpha dominance!’

he’s acting like a policeman stopping an african-american on a roadside or an afro-caribbean in brixton is akin to captain cook encountering the natives on a virgin shore. like there’s some incommunicable cultural barrier.  first contact. strange customs. human sacrifice, bodily markings, haka dances.

these people speak the same language and have lived in the same country as legal citizens for centuries.

as for the body language theories, it comes across like someone with autism. white people ‘look away when talking in conversation’? what the fuck? who the fuck stares into space when someone is talking to them in a 1-2-1 conversation? eye contact is threatening behaviour? WHO writes this scientifically illiterate nonsense?!? of course he cites some anonymous ‘met police report’ and not, er, the general literature from psychology or sociology or any relevant discipline.

an engineer who isn’t very interested in stats and loves unscientific race thinking. what a surprise!

and remember, many non-white communities, who are often polyglot and have to speak the host country's language to get a visa/citizenship, and who might juggle between local dialects at home with their elders, a language for their broader community, and 'official' language in school or in the formal workplace, apparently lack the ability to 'code switch' (as it's called in linguistics) when addressing a police officer. someone at home in 2 or 3 languages and who navigates an identity between, say, their family ethnic life and their official employed life, apparently is hopeless at communicating with police forces. they keep getting killed due to absolute, mute incomprehension. and it's all their fault! not at all the fault of the monoglot english plod with a hard-on for his truncheon.

to say nothing of the people who are born, raised and grow up in the US or UK their whole lives. a person whose environment has been majority white apparently never learns the linguistic signals and gestures to communicate with a white person. a person who can speak several languages fluently and whose identity formation/language acquisition occurs wholly in the west, apparently keeps looking into whites' eyes when it's least appropriate.

Last edited by uziq (2020-08-22 06:07:51)

No response to the video anecdote though, the premonition of harassment followed by 45 minutes of harassment in what is an extremely dangerous encounter with three armed officers who can't even provide a straight reason why they have him sitting there. Things like this aren't an unusual experience for black people in America.

But no, you post about how black people "wave their arms around (??)" like some Italian stereotype. "Acting up," you call it. How many black people do you know?

I'm not even mad. I just can't figure you out.