Dilbert_X
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Thats great and all but there were defeated by the Romans and chose to leave.

Plenty of other groups have philological links to the region, and more recently, why do the jews have exclusive primacy?
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Jay
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At least dilbert stopped his references to Israel when dog whistling his hatred of Jews. Remember when he used to claim he wasn't anti-Semitic because he was only criticising Israel? Yeah. This is much more honest. Dilbert, please tell superior mind that you're sad his family wasn't wiped out at Auschwitz.
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Dilbert_X
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Yawn you're a child.

Blacks perceive jews as being more racist than the average, and historically they have been, their whole religion being based on race after all.
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Jay
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I wonder how many of dilberts "we've been here since the Norman conquest!" ancestors initiated pogroms against Jews in order to avoid repaying debts. I wonder how many Africans and Indians were killed, looted and raped. I wonder how many Africans his relatives bought into slavery. The English really should avoid all talk of racism.
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uziq
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yes i don’t think there’s any question at all that anglo-saxons records for race-crimes and destruction is far worse than jewish people’s.

dilbert’s grasp of history is essentially that of a patchily educated schoolchild. good on romans, bad on jews; fascinated with china and japan ca. 1940, weak on the, er, other bits for a few thousand years. and yet he makes such sweeping proclamations, you’d think he really had a masterful command.
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Thats great and all but there were defeated by the Romans and chose to leave.

Plenty of other groups have philological links to the region, and more recently, why do the jews have exclusive primacy?
the jews could say the same thing about defeating the muslims, etc. really pick and choose whichever you want. citing the roman put down of the jewish rebellion isn’t exactly great history, dilbert.
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uziq wrote:

even without archeological records, there is clear philological link to the levant and middle-east. it’s clear that hebrew and aramaic peoples were in the region, perhaps even coming from the desert in the east. dilbert’s elementary mistake about jew’s origins says all you need to know about that branch of anti-semites. they don’t even know what semitic cultures are !
Right. The root of Semitic languages is most likely in Sumer. Even without philological analysis, the Epic of Gilgamesh shares a connection to the Torah, concerning the flood story in any case.

Jay wrote:

Dilbert, please tell superior mind that you're sad his family wasn't wiped out at Auschwitz.
Some of my family met that end. At least a great or great great grandfather and I believe grandma too. A violinist in the royal court of Austro-Hungary. Not sure at which death camp.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2020-07-09 07:30:20)

uziq
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completely by the by but i just bought a new vinyl pressing of olivier messiaen's Quatuor pour la fin du temps. was written in a concentration camp and played by prisoners. good stuff.
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Jay wrote:

I wonder how many of dilberts "we've been here since the Norman conquest!" ancestors initiated pogroms against Jews in order to avoid repaying debts. I wonder how many Africans and Indians were killed, looted and raped. I wonder how many Africans his relatives bought into slavery. The English really should avoid all talk of racism.
Oh lots probably, same question for you and your ancestors, still not an excuse for the jews to carry out pogroms based on racism in the present day.

initiated pogroms against Jews in order to avoid repaying debts
Thats a blood libel and you need to retract it.
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SuperJail Warden
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"Miami Police Officer charged after video emerges showing him kneeling on a pregnant womans neck, tasing her in the stomach twice. She miscarried shortly after. Officer lied in his report and fabricated events that never occured, charging her with Battery on an Officer and Felony Resisting."
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout … o_emerges/
This is murder. The officer should be tried for murder and executed if found guilty.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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Two months later, one of his distant cop buddies will text him a meme about aborting black babies. His reply:

"haha"

From thread:

7 hours ago
Yep, he was working as a security guard and dragged her out of her car as she was leaving.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement said that Martel had “no legal authority to detain the victim.”

Edit: That's probably why he lied in his police report about what happened, because he had no legal right to detain her at all, much less use this level of force.
uziq
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where’s hollis?! his boy needs him! tell us it was all reasonable !!
unnamednewbie13
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I dunno, Jay told me I was being "too much" by asking him cop questions.

At least he contributed the liquor thread.
SuperJail Warden
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That whole BLM thing really didn't accomplish too much did it? No major police reforms were passed. Just a ton of property damage and COVID resurgence.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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Black people can do what they like and not get arrested.

Thats a step forward.
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DesertFox-
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I saw what I assume are the new approved talking points a lot this weekend of people dismissing BLM because it's "Marxist" due to some of the people associated with founding it and wording of their mission. I don't quite get how that means they can't have some valid points, but I fear that's gonna be used a lot for white people to ignore the issues.
RTHKI
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Already has been. BLM wants to destroy America and turn it into a socialist hellhole.
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
unnamednewbie13
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lmao

SuperJail Warden
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Article in the NYT about a small NY town's fight over one of those BLM street murals.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/nyre … skill.html
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200605181742-02-black-lives-matter-dc-street-exlarge-169.jpg
The town which is a fifth black didn't want to the mural on the main road of the town instead offered to put it in the black part of town which black activist found unacceptable. I believe the black activist are being unreasonable.

I don't like white people going through mandatory participation like that. I am sure the black community wouldn't like someone writing Make American Great Again on their road.

This is an example of how the whole protest came to nought. There were no major reforms to policing in the U.S. but instead just a bunch of cultural wins for African Americans. And those cultural wins won't go far in helping low income blacks.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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White people who are bothered by this on some political level might at the very least be a passive part of the problem. Re: "forced participation," I would hardly classify public uproar over things like police abuses to be on the same level as erecting a confederate monument in a prominent location in response to desegregation and the civil rights movement, then having the gall to claim it's for "celebrating heritage" or whatever.

Did you see that social media post of that one woman shutting down her grandson's confederate post? To the effect of "you're Scotch-Irish and our family wasn't even here during the civil war." Ouch.

Anyway, the biggest issues are on the technical level:

1) Painted surfaces can get slick, but wear to traffic should mitigate this.
2) Lane markings are obfuscated.

If this were to become a permanent feature,

https://i.imgur.com/lMPWbXn.png

etc.

This is an example of how the whole protest came to nought. There were no major reforms to policing in the U.S. but instead just a bunch of cultural wins for African Americans. And those cultural wins won't go far in helping low income blacks.
Also probably a lot of coronavirus.
SuperJail Warden
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It's not just whites who are off put by the phrase "Black Lives Matter". It's not inclusive of other groups. And the phrase hurt police reform efforts. I wish there was a way to signal my opposition to police brutality without also explicitly encouraging black identity politics.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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You can just say that you wish police would chill out just a bit, and maybe not actively discourage whistleblowing on corruption.

From ACLU, on white victim:

‘You’re Fucked’: The Acquittal of Officer Brailsford and the Crisis of Police Impunity
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law- … and-crisis

Mesa cop, on uproar:

Mesa Cop Calls People 'Idiots' for Bringing Up Shaver Shooting on Facebook
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/da … n-11374239

Hoping for meaningful police reforms during the Trump presidency, though …
Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

White people who are bothered by this on some political level might at the very least be a passive part of the problem. Re: "forced participation," I would hardly classify public uproar over things like police abuses to be on the same level as erecting a confederate monument in a prominent location in response to desegregation and the civil rights movement, then having the gall to claim it's for "celebrating heritage" or whatever.

Did you see that social media post of that one woman shutting down her grandson's confederate post? To the effect of "you're Scotch-Irish and our family wasn't even here during the civil war." Ouch.

Anyway, the biggest issues are on the technical level:

1) Painted surfaces can get slick, but wear to traffic should mitigate this.
2) Lane markings are obfuscated.

If this were to become a permanent feature,



etc..
Who is liable when someone skids on an unapproved surface and kills someone?
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unnamednewbie13
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Who is liable when someone skids on an unapproved surface and kills someone?
I think the simplest answer is that the police would probably determine that the person who skidded is at fault for driving too fast in unsafe conditions.

Slip and fall is another possibility. If the city applied it or leaves it, it's possible that an injured person could sue them. But suing the government isn't always an easy task.

Hey, look:

'We'll paint it again with better paint': City removes 'Defund the Police' mural on Water Street [Milwaukee City Hall]
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/we-ll … r-BB16AjBG

City Department of Public Works employees were up early on a rainy Friday morning removing the words “defund the police” from Water Street directly across from City Hall. 

The Department of Public Works' decision to remove the mural, officials said in a news release Thursday, was "solely about safety." City officials said the mural's paint obscures traffic lines and has been slick when wet.

“The message painted on Water Street has been heard loud and clear by policy makers in city government, and the Department of Public Works has no intention to diminish the voices calling for change,” said Commissioner of Public Works Jeff Polenske.

[...]

The "defund the police" message was painted on the street by protesters on July 1 without the city’s permission. Several police officers were on hand to help block the street as workers used chemicals, push brooms and high-powered hoses to scrub away the words.

Activists protesting racial inequality and police brutality have clashed with law enforcement multiple times over the last two months. However, the majority of the marches and events have been peaceful. 

Only one protester was present for the mural removal, Frank Sensabaugh, who goes by the nickname Frank Nitty.

Sensabaugh said the city released more precise guidelines if activists want to paint the message again.

“We’ll paint it again with better paint,” Sensabaugh said, noting he plans to make sure the new mural will abide by the guidelines. “I’m a fair guy. We’ll do a non-slip mural.”
Elsewhere, these murals are being vandalized. At the very least it's been making for interesting social news.

California pair charged with hate crime after Black Lives Matter mural cover-up: authorities
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-p … uthorities

etc.

Comments are lol.
Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Who is liable when someone skids on an unapproved surface and kills someone?
I think the simplest answer is that the police would probably determine that the person who skidded is at fault for driving too fast in unsafe conditions
Police don't 'determine' anything, the courts do that.

If I spread grease on a road and someone skids who is liable?

If I paint a road with gloss paint and someone skids who is liable?
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