lol i’m still laughing that a guy as obsessed with jews as dilbert thinks that it originated in egypt and they have ‘no business being in the levant’. LMAO. the entire history and character of the jews can be traced to the bronze age collapse and rise of iron-age jewish kingdoms IN JUDEA!
Depends on what they tag him for, I guess. Minnesota has a whole list of classifications and modifiers.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Noor only got 12 years in prison which again shows cop privilege exist and transcends race. Would your average black non-cop guy in Minnesota get only 12 years for shooting a white woman in the chest?
https://mn.gov/msgc-stat/documents/Guid … entary.pdf
A shotgun guess would be that they'd aim higher. Noor had a reason to be poking about, after all.
He's trying to stir me up about Damond while seeming to diminish Floyd because people are demonstrating. Meanwhile lecturing us on double standards.uziq wrote:
lol i’m still laughing that a guy as obsessed with jews as dilbert thinks that it originated in egypt and they have ‘no business being in the levant’. LMAO. the entire history and character of the jews can be traced to the bronze age collapse and rise of iron-age jewish kingdoms IN JUDEA!
Boggles.
‘mogadishu is not america’ is his equivalent of ‘covid-19 is not the flu’.
But what about before that?uziq wrote:
lol i’m still laughing that a guy as obsessed with jews as dilbert thinks that it originated in egypt and they have ‘no business being in the levant’. LMAO. the entire history and character of the jews can be traced to the bronze age collapse and rise of iron-age jewish kingdoms IN JUDEA!
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What you're basically demanding is that tolerant cultures should embrace intolerant bigoted cultures, if we don't that makes us intolerant bigots!uziq wrote:
‘mogadishu is not america’ is his equivalent of ‘covid-19 is not the flu’.
The point about Justine Damond is the white community didn't loot and set fire to shopping malls as a "normal part of protest" which is "the fault of white people anyway".
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there is no historical evidence before that. the slaves in egypt thing is part of their mythic imagining, dilbert. you know, like greeks imagined themselves as direct descendants of troy and other bronze age kingdoms. christ almighty.
the tanakh and old testament are not histories. so you say they’re full of religious nonsense except for when you cite them as historical evidence.
do you think the jews built the pyramids? and that a man really parted the red sea? hahaha
the tanakh and old testament are not histories. so you say they’re full of religious nonsense except for when you cite them as historical evidence.
do you think the jews built the pyramids? and that a man really parted the red sea? hahaha
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what i’m saying is that a black african-american is an american citizen, socialised and raised and thoroughly OF america, and is entitled to be treated with the legal status and equalities promised to american citizens.Dilbert_X wrote:
What you're basically demanding is that tolerant cultures should embrace intolerant bigoted cultures, if we don't that makes us intolerant bigots!uziq wrote:
‘mogadishu is not america’ is his equivalent of ‘covid-19 is not the flu’.
The point about Justine Damond is the white community didn't loot and set fire to shopping malls as a "normal part of protest" which is "the fault of white people anyway".
what you’re saying is that a black american’s life is forfeit because of the way african countries, thousands of miles away, may or may not be governed. in other words, you’re saying that all people with one skin colour are essentially and invariably the same all over. which is one of the stupidest things i have ever fucking heard in my life. read a book.
Nope, haven't said that either, you're well past the point of making things up.
You're saying our own long-standing culture is bad and racist and we should replace it with worse and more racist cultures instead.
How long did the CHAZ last before the rapes and murders started?
Makes u think
You're saying our own long-standing culture is bad and racist and we should replace it with worse and more racist cultures instead.
How long did the CHAZ last before the rapes and murders started?
Makes u think
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when did i ever express support for CHAZ? i think i’ve made one post here and i was laughing in derision at the whole idea.
your argument and scatter shot thinking leaves a little to be desired. once again, i’ve never condoned looting, violence, or been a tribune for anarchism. about all i’ve ever said about that political philosophy here is that it’s nowhere near as big and scary and existentially threatening as the right-wing makes out.
i never said my culture is ‘bad’. i said people are democratically entitled to protest and demand equal rights. it’s what our culture takes immense pride in. what is wrong with being held to account? having our institutions and police held responsible? i see nothing wrong with that. as for making me out to be some ‘self-hating cultural abnegator’ — are you really accusing me of that, when i’ve been the one championing the importance of culture, values, literature, humanities, etc for about 15 years? i’m more invested in english and western culture than you are, you retard. don’t pretend you’re some defender of western values just because you go in for the usual bigotry about other races. you’re not a crusader, dilbert, you’re a sad and fearful little man.
why do you get so pissy when anyone criticises our hypocrisy or demands that we uphold our ‘proud’ democratic ideals? do you think our society is so fragile that it’ll collapse if black people protest police violence? why this continual nervousness, the ‘go back to somalia’ rhetoric all the time? i think we can take a little introspection and DIY.
your argument and scatter shot thinking leaves a little to be desired. once again, i’ve never condoned looting, violence, or been a tribune for anarchism. about all i’ve ever said about that political philosophy here is that it’s nowhere near as big and scary and existentially threatening as the right-wing makes out.
i never said my culture is ‘bad’. i said people are democratically entitled to protest and demand equal rights. it’s what our culture takes immense pride in. what is wrong with being held to account? having our institutions and police held responsible? i see nothing wrong with that. as for making me out to be some ‘self-hating cultural abnegator’ — are you really accusing me of that, when i’ve been the one championing the importance of culture, values, literature, humanities, etc for about 15 years? i’m more invested in english and western culture than you are, you retard. don’t pretend you’re some defender of western values just because you go in for the usual bigotry about other races. you’re not a crusader, dilbert, you’re a sad and fearful little man.
why do you get so pissy when anyone criticises our hypocrisy or demands that we uphold our ‘proud’ democratic ideals? do you think our society is so fragile that it’ll collapse if black people protest police violence? why this continual nervousness, the ‘go back to somalia’ rhetoric all the time? i think we can take a little introspection and DIY.
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What you're promoting is tolerance of intolerance, CHAZ is just the most recent example, why not expect that people should integrate instead of demanding we tolerate them?
Otherwise you can kiss it all goodbye.
When have I said people shouldn't protest? I've been to protests myself, long after I was a student.
Whats strange is you approving of violent protest as normal.
Otherwise you can kiss it all goodbye.
When have I said people shouldn't protest? I've been to protests myself, long after I was a student.
Whats strange is you approving of violent protest as normal.
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sorry but no. you’re eliding the peaceful protests of black people with islamic extremism and anarchism. i am not ‘promoting intolerance’ at all. wrong. get a different line.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 … ice-arrest
these people should really try harder to integrate. maybe then they wouldn't have tasers pointed at them.Andrew said: “If this was a normal stop and search, I could respect that. But it is obvious why we were treated the way we were. The police came in at high-octane aggression level 10. We were on a family bike ride, and my son was essentially assaulted by a police officer. We were threatened with Tasers even though we weren’t resisting, and then just put in handcuffs.”
Paton described the scene as “racial profiling at its worst”. The photographer, who lives on a boat on the river, had responded to Andrew’s pleas asking someone to film what was going on. “The mood was defensive, borderline aggressive and patronising,” she said. “I was disgusted. It really drove the issue [of racism] home for me. The way they spoke to Andrew, the way they treated him and kept him in handcuffs so long when he could prove so quickly he was completely innocent and the wrong person. It was just so disappointing to see.”
The family were visited by a community officer later that evening. “Huugo didn’t want them to come in so they stayed on the doorstep and asked if we were OK,” said Andrew, who works at City University. He is also active in local projects including coaching a youth football team and volunteering for the outreach programme Kickoff@3 , which is co-run by a black Metropolitan police officer, Michael Wallace.
“I couldn’t vouch for a more humble and more dedicated member of the community,” said Wallace. “The irony is that Kickoff@3 is about building good relationships with youth and the police, and Andy is instrumental in helping with that programme. The bike ride he was doing was organised by us – we were raising money for a homeless charity and a domestic violence one.”
I wonder when I'll hear about how restrained the police were, because the 13-year-old boy could have been diving for a stashed knife.
https://www.facebook.com/579444713/post … l&vh=i
From last night. Looks like Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn
From last night. Looks like Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/579444713/posts/10159423189474714/?d=null&vh=i
From last night. Looks like Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn
especially to the men and women who protect a community everyday and night. Wake up people or it’s going to be too late when you do.
especially to the men and women who protect a community
protect a community
Among the many myriad examples. Can we at least stop pretending that "protecting the community" is the only facet to consider.
People who are peacefully protesting aren't rioting.
People shouldn't riot, loot, and burn, vandalize, and litter.
Police shouldn't be pushing old men to the pavement, shooting people in the face with rubber bullets for as little as just happening to be carrying groceries near a protest, employing tear gas outside of policy, employing dangerous holds for extended periods of time, etc. etc. Also how tactical really was slashing everyone's tires at a Kmart? "We're worried about people driving into crowds" like those are the only cars around? I'd be curious to see of the city paid for that.
Governments shouldn't uphold rebel statues erected under false pretenses, or make comment to fan the flames of civil unrest.
Amazing how anywhere they go they want to turn it into Mogadishu.Jay wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/579444713/posts/10159423189474714/?d=null&vh=i
From last night. Looks like Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn
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amazing how jay has nothing to say about 3 weeks of mass protests without incident, but links the bad bits.
it's almost like he cares more about property than black lives.
it's almost like he cares more about property than black lives.
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Was that even a protest or a flash mob/block party gone bad?
This stuff has been going on nonstop alongside the peaceful protests you keep cumbayaing about. Either you're ignoring all the negative stuff or your media of choice is hiding it from you because it goes against the narrative. American cities are in near anarchy right now.uziq wrote:
amazing how jay has nothing to say about 3 weeks of mass protests without incident, but links the bad bits.
it's almost like he cares more about property than black lives.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
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Vast global media conspiracy to hide the ongoing revolt taking place in U.S. cities.
Yes, because they've made it so that if they were to post a video like the one above they'd be called racist. So they ignore it instead.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Vast global media conspiracy to hide the ongoing revolt taking place in U.S. cities.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +635|3717
So even the official Russian and Chinese English media groups are too afraid of being called racist to cover the ongoing urban mass urban revolt?
there are plenty of media sources here who would cover riots/looting. we have dealt with it ourselves. the media can report on a complex issue involving criminality and pressing issues of social justice, jay. the rest of the world have media that aren't nearly so partisan and absolute on issues as your national review and fox news eco-system.Jay wrote:
Yes, because they've made it so that if they were to post a video like the one above they'd be called racist. So they ignore it instead.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Vast global media conspiracy to hide the ongoing revolt taking place in U.S. cities.
i take the point that the BLM protests have dropped out of the media cycle, though, mostly because weeks of continued peaceful assemblies do not make for great images/video footage or headlines. but they have been happening, day in, day out, and every weekend. no looting, no crimes.
you've only ever piped up in this thread to make some comment about property damage, as well as some perfunctory remarks about how 'it must be bad to be a victim of racism, i can only imagine'. it's very conspicuous. oh and let's not forget 'they've ruined their own cause because the republican party/trump's supreme court/the market was going to fix it all eventually, anyway'. very good stuff.
If you haven't noticed over the years I don't have much sympathy for people who don't have a net positive impact on society, regardless of skin color. You ask me if black lives matter, well, some do. Certainly not all. I care about the people that care.uziq wrote:
there are plenty of media sources here who would cover riots/looting. we have dealt with it ourselves. the media can report on a complex issue involving criminality and pressing issues of social justice, jay. the rest of the world have media that aren't nearly so partisan and absolute on issues as your national review and fox news eco-system.Jay wrote:
Yes, because they've made it so that if they were to post a video like the one above they'd be called racist. So they ignore it instead.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Vast global media conspiracy to hide the ongoing revolt taking place in U.S. cities.
i take the point that the BLM protests have dropped out of the media cycle, though, mostly because weeks of continued peaceful assemblies do not make for great images/video footage or headlines. but they have been happening, day in, day out, and every weekend. no looting, no crimes.
you've only ever piped up in this thread to make some comment about property damage, as well as some perfunctory remarks about how 'it must be bad to be a victim of racism, i can only imagine'. it's very conspicuous. oh and let's not forget 'they've ruined their own cause because the republican party/trump's supreme court/the market was going to fix it all eventually, anyway'. very good stuff.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat