Ayumiz
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The People’s Liberation Army
Despite the inauguration of a new Abe administration, it seems that a sense of tension with other East Asian nations is still prevalent among Japanese netizens.

This article, posted on MSN Sankei news, quickly became the most read article of the day, attracting thousands of netizen comments from all corners of the Japanese internet. Although it is not unusual for Chinese military leaders to instruct the military to prepare for war, in the Japanese media this has been portrayed as a threat to Japan, particularly in light of the recent conflict with China over the Senkaku Islands, or Diaoyu as they are known in Chinese.

From Sankei MSN:

Chinese Army General Staff Department Instruct Entire Military:’Prepare for War’ Envisioning War Against Japan…
It has been revealed that the General Staff Department which commands the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), has instructed the entire army that the army’s mission for 2013 is to ‘prepare for war’. This was reported in the January 14 edition of the military bulletin, the PLA Daily, among other places. Furthermore, state-sponsored media, such as China Central Television (CCTV) has recently broadcast special programmes on successive days that envision war with Japan, creating a sense of military tension.

Conscious of the military clash with the Japanese Self Defence Forces around the Senkaku Islands in Okinawa Prefecture, there is the possibility that the new Xi Jinping leadership has begun to initiate preparations and to create the right atmosphere [for attack].


General Secretary Xi Jinping
According to the PLA Daily, in the 2013 ‘Instructions Relating to Military Training’ that the General Staff Department issued to the entire military, the difficulty level of training for units is to be increased, and to be carried out more strictly’ so that they might be able to respond in combat.

It is assumed that the leadership has taken a firm step towards preparing for war.

The PLA Daily also explained that this year’s objectives for military training were created based on important instructions by Xi Jinping, the chairman of the Central Military Commission, who took up his post in November of last year.

In addition, since the beginning of this year, major Chinese media outlets have been broadcasting programmes on consecutive days that envision a ‘Senkaku War’. Many of those involved in the military, such as the vice secretary general of the Chinese Academy of Military Sciences, Lieutenant General Luo Yuan, and the former head of the Naval Strategy Research Unit, Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo appeared in the programmes, and they continue to spread war advocacy. Virtually all of them are members of the same Princelings as General Secretary Xi, and there is a considerably possibility that they are influence by Xi’s ideas.

On the other hand, scholars who urge the resolution of the Senkaku dispute through foreign diplomacy with Japan, were hardly called by the media at all. According to one Japan scholar, at a symposium about the Senkaku issue that was recently held in Beijing, ‘The central debate tended to focus on questions of whether a war with Japan would remain on a small scale, or whether it would escalate into all-out war. Those who emphasised a small scale war were called the ‘dove faction’, and were criticised.’

According to Communist Party sources, at the Grand Party Meeting in November of last year, General Secretary Xi Jinping lost out on leadership of military personnel to a faction spearheaded by President Hu Jintao. At present, Xi is in a coalition with conservatives within the military, and by increasing military tensions with Japan, it is assumed that he is trying to increase his own centripetal force, and regain leadership.

Comments from Twitter:

のぐさん:

Having learned directly from the generation who actually experienced war, I’m looking forward to healthy, low calorie recipies like potato vines and pork broth (笑).

yuya:

Give it up, China. There’s no way you’re going to win.

むねのり:

China totally made me laugh. We were told that it was overthinking things when we anticipated a time when there’d probably be a Sino-Japanese war, but these guys are actually serious wwww

shinshin:

So we see the true war-loving nature of China. I don’t know if it’s 3000 or 4000 years, but China’s entire history has been spent in bloody battles. Should Japan really hold back against such a people? I think it’s best if we just defeat them openly through the combined forces of our diplomacy and economy.

なんでやねん:

Wow, they’re really eager to start a war. But we won’t respond to idiots. We should just lay the groundwork without fuss.

syuuji_hinata:

I wonder, are they really considering war?

相武印月齋(主馬首 滝脇藩附庸):

War is just another means of resolving an international conflict. It’s hardly surprising. Leaving whether or not they’ll actually ‘draw their swords’ aside, the commanders of the three forces are always thinking of this.

JpKalbo:

And how are things inside China? Are Japanese residents of China alright?

あん:

The Chinese military is inciting a war with Japan.

佐藤広一 :

⇒I wonder if Abe will respond.

Comments from 2ch.net:

名無しさん@13周年:

It’s like North Korea w

名無しさん@13周年:

Another 1000 fishing vessels, eh?

名無しさん@13周年:

China. So stupid.

名無しさん@13周年:

I guess this is what they mean by military first politics.

名無しさん@13周年:

So this is how it feels when they say ‘the country will perish’.w

名無しさん@13周年:

Under the Abe administration, we’re close to the US, and they have raptors and ospreys, and our own self-defense forces have quite a bit of military potential, too. Are you stupid, China?

名無しさん@13周年:

So, it’s ok if you’re no longer able to see Japanese porn?

名無しさん@13周年:

Don’t be all pathetic talk. Bring it.

名無しさん@13周年:

Just a second. This is of benefit to neither of us. Isn’t now the time we should start looking for a common enemy?

名無しさん@13周年:

Because they’re preparing for war, consumption tax will be 95%!

名無しさん@13周年:

Come and fight at your convenience

名無しさん@13周年:

Japanese are too addicted to peace. China’s for real.

名無しさん@13周年:

Finally, the fall of China is at hand.

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Thoughts? Is Russia still at war with Japan due to the peace treaty that hasnt been signed? If so, will they help China if the US joins in the fray?

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Should be fun to watch.
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Cybargs
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Well I would doubt China would want to get in a fight against pretty much all of Asia.

China starts invading Japan, everyone except Korea would pretty much jump in.
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Cybargs wrote:

Well I would doubt China would want to get in a fight against pretty much all of Asia.

China starts invading Japan, everyone except Korea would pretty much jump in.
Never get involved in a land war in Asia
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Cybargs
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AussieReaper wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Well I would doubt China would want to get in a fight against pretty much all of Asia.

China starts invading Japan, everyone except Korea would pretty much jump in.
Never get involved in a land war in Asia
unless you're asian.
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名無しさん@13周年:

So, it’s ok if you’re no longer able to see Japanese porn?
And this is what will break China's will to fight
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I don't want this to be mistaken for another narcissistic Americans take on global events, BUT

There's pretty strong evidence that this entire confrontation between China and Japan is mostly about testing the USA's resolve in Asia, whether we will stand by Japan and push ourselves further to the brink of a Cold war style scenario or whether we will capitulate and give China more influence in what is essentially their front yard.

Kind of obvious but worth pointing out..

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Cybargs
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Spearhead wrote:

I don't want this to be mistaken for another narcissistic Americans take on global events, BUT

There's pretty strong evidence that this entire confrontation between China and Japan is mostly about testing the USA's resolve in Asia, whether we will stand by Japan and push ourselves further to the brink of a Cold war style scenario or whether we will capitulate and give China more influence in what is essentially their front yard.

Kind of obvious but worth pointing out..
It always has been about seeing what the US will do. Same situation when they started pointing missiles during the 1996 election in Taiwan. China does everything to Japan and Taiwan to test out the US.
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The Chinese might as well bomb Hawaii if they attack Japan. It's just a probe.
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Cybargs wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

I don't want this to be mistaken for another narcissistic Americans take on global events, BUT

There's pretty strong evidence that this entire confrontation between China and Japan is mostly about testing the USA's resolve in Asia, whether we will stand by Japan and push ourselves further to the brink of a Cold war style scenario or whether we will capitulate and give China more influence in what is essentially their front yard.

Kind of obvious but worth pointing out..
It always has been about seeing what the US will do. Same situation when they started pointing missiles during the 1996 election in Taiwan. China does everything to Japan and Taiwan to test out the US.
This is a ridiculous train of thought. Barring war scenarios, China and Japan don't care about some other nation's thoughts on their own regional power struggle. It's definitely not your place to take part in their 'debate', that would most probably be seen as unwanted meddling by all parties.

The sooner you stop believing that random world events revolve around or depend on you and your actions the better (for your own sake more than anything really). And no, China and Japan will not go to war over some sea-rocks. Consider cost/benefit for a moment.
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Shocking wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

I don't want this to be mistaken for another narcissistic Americans take on global events, BUT

There's pretty strong evidence that this entire confrontation between China and Japan is mostly about testing the USA's resolve in Asia, whether we will stand by Japan and push ourselves further to the brink of a Cold war style scenario or whether we will capitulate and give China more influence in what is essentially their front yard.

Kind of obvious but worth pointing out..
It always has been about seeing what the US will do. Same situation when they started pointing missiles during the 1996 election in Taiwan. China does everything to Japan and Taiwan to test out the US.
This is a ridiculous train of thought. Barring war scenarios, China and Japan don't care about some other nation's thoughts on their own regional power struggle. It's definitely not your place to take part in their 'debate', that would most probably be seen as unwanted meddling by all parties.

The sooner you stop believing that random world events revolve around or depend on you and your actions the better (for your own sake more than anything really). And no, China and Japan will not go to war over some sea-rocks. Consider cost/benefit for a moment.
It doesnt matter if japan couldnt care less about what the US thinks of their struggle. They dont have a choice
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Shocking wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

I don't want this to be mistaken for another narcissistic Americans take on global events, BUT

There's pretty strong evidence that this entire confrontation between China and Japan is mostly about testing the USA's resolve in Asia, whether we will stand by Japan and push ourselves further to the brink of a Cold war style scenario or whether we will capitulate and give China more influence in what is essentially their front yard.

Kind of obvious but worth pointing out..
It always has been about seeing what the US will do. Same situation when they started pointing missiles during the 1996 election in Taiwan. China does everything to Japan and Taiwan to test out the US.
This is a ridiculous train of thought. Barring war scenarios, China and Japan don't care about some other nation's thoughts on their own regional power struggle. It's definitely not your place to take part in their 'debate', that would most probably be seen as unwanted meddling by all parties.

The sooner you stop believing that random world events revolve around or depend on you and your actions the better (for your own sake more than anything really). And no, China and Japan will not go to war over some sea-rocks. Consider cost/benefit for a moment.
He isn't American. He is Australian.
Jaekus
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I think this is a bit of a storm in a teacup. The tensions are certainly there, but preparing for war? I think that just makes a good news headline to sell more papers / get more internet traffic.

Chinese Leader Takes Conciliatory Tone in Meeting With Japanese Lawmaker

Also, I can't see how 30 year old dispute has anything to do with the US - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_China … Z_disputes

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Cybargs
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Jaekus wrote:

I think this is a bit of a storm in a teacup. The tensions are certainly there, but preparing for war? I think that just makes a good news headline to sell more papers / get more internet traffic.

Chinese Leader Takes Conciliatory Tone in Meeting With Japanese Lawmaker

Also, I can't see how 30 year old dispute has anything to do with the US - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_China … Z_disputes
EEZ disputes no, but using the military to try to enforce "their" EEZ is. A lot of it has to do with what these nations "big brother" would do in a situation. Especially when you consider that the US has huge bases in Japan and has a defense treaty with them. The US is still a key regional superpower and if China wants to do anything militarily, they most definitely will have to take on the US.

And no, China and Japan won't fight a war over these shitty Islands. This shit is just China trying to posture itself. China'a been claiming EEZ all over everyone's coastlines.

https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45552000/gif/_45552694_south_china-sea_466.gif

edit: and not to mention doing shit like this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7934138.stm

Beijing says the ship was conducting activities within the waters of its exclusive economic zone.
The US earlier complained to China's military attache over the incident.
It said the Chinese ships manoeuvred dangerously close to an unarmed US navy surveillance vessel while it was on routine operations in international waters 75 miles (120km) south of Hainan island.
The ships "aggressively manoeuvred" around the Impeccable "in an apparent co-ordinated effort to harass the US ocean surveillance ship", a Pentagon statement said.

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