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imortal wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

imortal wrote:

Yep.  afraid so.  3 or 4 wives, by that point.  So, 12 boys go off and meet Allah in the great jihad, and one guy can stay back and repopulate.

People are forgetting that to continue to have such large families is not sustainable. How the fuck are you gonna feed the cunts when all you possess is a barren desert?!!!

Well, and all that oil.  Plus sending some of them off to be the poor mans "smart" bomb.  I wonder if the suicide attacks could be a form of population control?

I digress.  The distressing part about the fatwas is that it is killing allowed by their religion.  In Christianity, there are some people out there restrained from killing people only because it is against their religion and against the law.  A fatwa frees a person of any feeling of guilt or wrongness about killing, and most muslim countries criminal laws follow the Korran, so killing under a fatwa is legal, as well as religiously allowed.

There are also schools in the middle east where children are raised learning that all of their misery is the cause of Isreal, jews, and the US.  They are taught to read using the Korran, they are taught right and wrong from the Korran, they are taught that anything good comes from the Korran, and that anything not in the Korran is evil and meant to corrupt them by the godless heathens they were taught to hate and told that it is not only allowed, but their holy duty to Allah to kill or convert.  The amazing thing is that there are as many moderate Muslims as there are.

Finally, I think it is the responsibility of the Muslim faith to restrain their extremists and chastise them.  If they do not, then they are supporting them, explicitly or inplicitly, and share their guilt.  And before you jump and call me a muslim hater, I expect the same thing of Christian faiths regarding the bombing of abortion clinics and killing of abortion doctors.

jonsimon wrote:

Ah, I see you grew up a small muslim child being taught in muslim schools in a poor middle eastern country.

Oh, you didn't? Well what the fuck do you know then?

imortal wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

imortal wrote:

Well, and all that oil.  Plus sending some of them off to be the poor mans "smart" bomb.  I wonder if the suicide attacks could be a form of population control?

I digress.  The distressing part about the fatwas is that it is killing allowed by their religion.  In Christianity, there are some people out there restrained from killing people only because it is against their religion and against the law.  A fatwa frees a person of any feeling of guilt or wrongness about killing, and most muslim countries criminal laws follow the Korran, so killing under a fatwa is legal, as well as religiously allowed.

There are also schools in the middle east where children are raised learning that all of their misery is the cause of Isreal, jews, and the US.  They are taught to read using the Korran, they are taught right and wrong from the Korran, they are taught that anything good comes from the Korran, and that anything not in the Korran is evil and meant to corrupt them by the godless heathens they were taught to hate and told that it is not only allowed, but their holy duty to Allah to kill or convert.  The amazing thing is that there are as many moderate Muslims as there are.

Finally, I think it is the responsibility of the Muslim faith to restrain their extremists and chastise them.  If they do not, then they are supporting them, explicitly or inplicitly, and share their guilt.  And before you jump and call me a muslim hater, I expect the same thing of Christian faiths regarding the bombing of abortion clinics and killing of abortion doctors.

Ah, I see you grew up a small muslim child being taught in muslim schools in a poor middle eastern country.

Oh, you didn't? Well what the fuck do you know then?

Someone is a bit upset.  But since you asked so politely, I was in the Army for 8 years.  In that time I spent a tour in Iraq.  I also spent two tours in Muslim Bosnia, so I got to see muslim culture up close in two differenet enviroments.  We also had arabic translators, one an Iraqi christian who immigrated to the US and volunteered to come back to Iraq as a civilian contractor.  We also had locals that we trusted hired as on-site translators.

Not only that, but our unit bought a Kuwaiti satilite TV system, so we got television.  Well, 2 Kuwaiti channels, Iranian TV, BBC India, Syrian TV, Eqyptian TV, Jordainian TV, etc...  Did you know that there is a muslim version of "American Idol' or 'Star Search?'  They were singing passages from the Korran.  No, that is not a joke.

So, I hate to tell you, but I feel confident that I may actually know a little bit of what I speak.  Next time, you may not want to assume that you are talking to a 16 year old kid.

jonsimon wrote:

And I still feel confident that you don't have enough experience to tell me what school systems in the middle east are like. You haven't even been in more than one country, and you haven't said anything about touring different schools in that country. This is a poor representation of how "There are also schools in the middle east where children are raised learning that all of their misery is the cause of Isreal, jews, and the US."

CameronPoe wrote:

People are forgetting that to continue to have such large families is not sustainable. How the fuck are you gonna feed the cunts when all you possess is a barren desert?!!!

jonsimon wrote:

imortal wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

Ah, I see you grew up a small muslim child being taught in muslim schools in a poor middle eastern country.

Oh, you didn't? Well what the fuck do you know then?

Someone is a bit upset.  But since you asked so politely, I was in the Army for 8 years.  In that time I spent a tour in Iraq.  I also spent two tours in Muslim Bosnia, so I got to see muslim culture up close in two differenet enviroments.  We also had arabic translators, one an Iraqi christian who immigrated to the US and volunteered to come back to Iraq as a civilian contractor.  We also had locals that we trusted hired as on-site translators.

Not only that, but our unit bought a Kuwaiti satilite TV system, so we got television.  Well, 2 Kuwaiti channels, Iranian TV, BBC India, Syrian TV, Eqyptian TV, Jordainian TV, etc...  Did you know that there is a muslim version of "American Idol' or 'Star Search?'  They were singing passages from the Korran.  No, that is not a joke.

So, I hate to tell you, but I feel confident that I may actually know a little bit of what I speak.  Next time, you may not want to assume that you are talking to a 16 year old kid.

And I still feel confident that you don't have enough experience to tell me what school systems in the middle east are like. You haven't even been in more than one country, and you haven't said anything about touring different schools in that country. This is a poor representation of how "There are also schools in the middle east where children are raised learning that all of their misery is the cause of Isreal, jews, and the US."

Last edited by imortal (2006-09-02 12:02:40)

rawls2 wrote:

Do you hear about KKK killing blacks anymore? We made it unpopular to be KKK. We demonized the group and now they hold their shit in hiding. Thats what we did.

what about the muslims here? If I was a muslim leader in America I would create a new branch of Islam that openly call for muslims to stop the violence.

herrr_smity wrote:

We can work it out peacefully. Muslims are just folks.

imortal wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

We can work it out peacefully. Muslims are just folks.

Well, most muslim are just folks.  However, in more cases, the relations between muslims and non-muslims SEEM to be determined by the muslim extremists, who do not seem inclined to "work it out."

I feel that until the mainstream muslim community takes control of their faith back from hate-spewing extremists and people willing to kill themselves to attack 'the infidel,' our cahnces of working things out with them will be severely limited.