Just wondering.
Poll
Is Iran democratic?
| Yes. | 24% | 24% - 25 | ||||
| No. | 56% | 56% - 58 | ||||
| Go fuck yourself! | 18% | 18% - 19 | ||||
| Total: 102 | ||||||
No
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA dude I am laughing so hard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranwikipedia wrote:
The President is elected by universal suffrage for a term of four years.
And for those of you who didn't pay attention in school: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_suffrage
yea it is DUH!!
Technically? Yes.
Do I truly think it should be classified as such? No.
Do I truly think it should be classified as such? No.
It's more like brainwashed democracy, but it's still democracy
Why not? They elect their President.
Edit: Btw, there are 2 "e"'s in wookiee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wookiee
Edit: Btw, there are 2 "e"'s in wookiee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wookiee
Last edited by chittydog (2006-08-28 14:20:08)
no Iran is not technically democratic. The supreme leader of Iran is a non elected official...retards.
the ayatollah DOES hold power over the gov't
the ayatollah DOES hold power over the gov't
Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-08-28 14:20:53)
They're a democratic republic, just like us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Expertswikipedia wrote:
The Assembly of Experts elects and dismisses the Supreme Leader.
wikipedia wrote:
Members of the assembly are elected by direct public vote to eight year terms.
The definition of Democracy is a form of goverment in which the representives of the country are selected by the use of unviversal suffrage.BigmacK wrote:
Technically? Yes.
Do I truly think it should be classified as such? No.
That classifies Iran under Democracy.
The thing is, people could form a very coherent argument that the United States is not democratic. Sure we elect our leaders, but do the leaders truly represent us? In Iran, how many people actually vote? How many are coerced? How many Iranian civilians truly believe in what the leaders say? I think we must come to a concrete definition of a democracy before we answer these questions.
Ken, I agree. Most of those arguments could be used against us just as well. How many Americans actually vote? As I remember, it's been around the 50% mark for years. Local gangs and crime bosses coerced a substantial percentage of the voters for decades in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. And, seriously, how many of us believe what the leaders say?
Regardless of all of this, my theory is that many (not all) of us are saying they're NOT a democracy because we hold that concept dear and have trouble believing the enemy(?) could have such a similar government. I have no love for the current Iranian government, but that doesn't change the fact that they elect their officials.
Does anyone here know any Iranians? I worked with one and he would often tell me that daily life there is very similar to life here. They go to work, go to the mall, spend time with friends and family. The gov't has little influence in their day to day life. Next time I see him, I'll ask if he feels the elections are truly the will of the people or have been tampered with.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=democracy
Here's the dictionary definition...
Democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
Edited for grammer.
Regardless of all of this, my theory is that many (not all) of us are saying they're NOT a democracy because we hold that concept dear and have trouble believing the enemy(?) could have such a similar government. I have no love for the current Iranian government, but that doesn't change the fact that they elect their officials.
Does anyone here know any Iranians? I worked with one and he would often tell me that daily life there is very similar to life here. They go to work, go to the mall, spend time with friends and family. The gov't has little influence in their day to day life. Next time I see him, I'll ask if he feels the elections are truly the will of the people or have been tampered with.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=democracy
Here's the dictionary definition...
Democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
Edited for grammer.
Last edited by chittydog (2006-08-28 14:49:13)
It's as democratic as Israel.
Sooooooooo, the UK isn't democratic either? (God Save the Queen?!?!)GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
no Iran is not technically democratic. The supreme leader of Iran is a non elected official...retards.
the ayatollah DOES hold power over the gov't
edit: Our supreme leader is also a non elected official... we must be retards too....
I'm against the Monarchy having power over government, if that helps my case...
Last edited by UnOriginalNuttah (2006-08-28 15:26:51)
but to run a candidate must be approved by the theocratic rulers. it's not universal suffrage if everyone can vote but not everyone can run.chittydog wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranwikipedia wrote:
The President is elected by universal suffrage for a term of four years.
And for those of you who didn't pay attention in school: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_suffrage
We've got the House of Lords doing a similar job to the Guardian Council. Oh, and to be Prime Minister you must be appointed by the Queen. Not a world of difference, really.kilgoretrout wrote:
but to run a candidate must be approved by the theocratic rulers. it's not universal suffrage if everyone can vote but not everyone can run.chittydog wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranwikipedia wrote:
The President is elected by universal suffrage for a term of four years.
And for those of you who didn't pay attention in school: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_suffrage
so the queen of england could still declare war on other countries?UnOriginalNuttah wrote:
Sooooooooo, the UK isn't democratic either? (God Save the Queen?!?!)GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
no Iran is not technically democratic. The supreme leader of Iran is a non elected official...retards.
the ayatollah DOES hold power over the gov't
edit: Our supreme leader is also a non elected official... we must be retards too....
I'm against the Monarchy having power over government, if that helps my case...
AHAHAHAH you stupied liberal.Ikarti wrote:
It's as democratic as Israel.
Why would you say it's not democratic? Have you got any proofs? Democratic goverments can be evil aswell *coughUSAcough*
Exactly. The iranians can either vote on mr Ultra Conservative or mr Very Conservative.kilgoretrout wrote:
but to run a candidate must be approved by the theocratic rulers. it's not universal suffrage if everyone can vote but not everyone can run.
ahaha, they're co founders of the UN....that makes me chuckle.
Same thing in the US and many other "democratic countries".voltage wrote:
Exactly. The iranians can either vote on mr Ultra Conservative or mr Very Conservative.kilgoretrout wrote:
but to run a candidate must be approved by the theocratic rulers. it's not universal suffrage if everyone can vote but not everyone can run.
What is really the difference between John Kerry and GWB? None you say? Oh how democratic...!!
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It's a form of democracy. People have a voice and can influence things - as long as it doesn't contravene the principles of Islamic doctrine upon which the nation was founded. Much like the fact that someone can't get into power in western countries if they wish to tear up the constitution when they get there. A lot more strict and repressive though. The Ayatollah, etc. are like a Supreme Court who constantly vet governmental decisions for 'constitutionality', much like the west. We, like them, cannot directly elect our own Supreme Court Judges.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-28 16:41:17)