Poll

Should Israel negotiate with Hezbollah?

Yes47%47% - 53
No40%40% - 45
I don't give a shit about them11%11% - 13
Total: 111
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6870|Home of the Escalade Herds

ghoward79 wrote:

I suppose Hezbollah's raining 3500 missles WAS an appropriate response? why side with terrorists? they'd lop of your silly head in a minute for expressing yourself freely.
Those rockets were useless and hardly did anything compared to Israeli bombing. Also, those rocket attacks were in RESPONSE to IDF bombing Lebanon.
AAFCptKabbom
Member
+127|6903|WPB, FL. USA

CameronPoe wrote:

NEWSFLASH Hezbollah have shown the two kidnapped Israeli soldiers on a video which is only accessible at the following website >

www.hisballah.com

The captors, who look particularly trigger happy, say that they want Israel banned from Lebanon.
I got it in a half a second - Just cold man
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6896|USA

PRiMACORD wrote:

ghoward79 wrote:

I suppose Hezbollah's raining 3500 missles WAS an appropriate response? why side with terrorists? they'd lop of your silly head in a minute for expressing yourself freely.
Those rockets were useless and hardly did anything compared to Israeli bombing. Also, those rocket attacks were in RESPONSE to IDF bombing Lebanon.
ya, and Israel's actions were in response to NOTHING I assume.
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6870|Home of the Escalade Herds

lowing wrote:

ya, and Israel's actions were in response to NOTHING I assume.
Bombing a country over 2 captured soldiers and very likely endangering the very soldiers that were captured.

Only someone as dumb as you is capable of such a feat, go join the IDF please.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6896|USA

PRiMACORD wrote:

lowing wrote:

ya, and Israel's actions were in response to NOTHING I assume.
Bombing a country over 2 captured soldiers and very likely endangering the very soldiers that were captured.

Only someone as dumb as you is capable of such a feat, go join the IDF please.
More of a just cause than joining the terrorists that you and the rest of the liberal think tank hold so dear.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6826|SE London

zimmer92 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Let's face it. There are two alternatives:
1) Talk to each other.
2) Continue blowing each other up forever and ever.

What harm is there in opening dialogue in the hopes of attempting to avoid option 2?
I doubt it would be forever, as one of them will wipe the other out sooner or later.
or maybe the NATO forces would intervene before that?
Neither side will ever wipe the other out. It is a perpetual circle of violence. Negotiation and compromise on both sides - primarily the Israeli side, is the only solution.
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6930

lowing wrote:

PRiMACORD wrote:

lowing wrote:

ya, and Israel's actions were in response to NOTHING I assume.
Bombing a country over 2 captured soldiers and very likely endangering the very soldiers that were captured.

Only someone as dumb as you is capable of such a feat, go join the IDF please.
More of a just cause than joining the terrorists that you and the rest of the liberal think tank hold so dear.
PRiMACORD just got pwned
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
+235|6924

CameronPoe wrote:

Let's face it. There are two alternatives:
1) Talk to each other.
2) Continue blowing each other up forever and ever.

What harm is there in opening dialogue in the hopes of attempting to avoid option 2?
It's not that simple. I'm sure the government of Lebanon, the newly free Gov. of Lebanon had no plans about attacking Israel and holding some Israeli soldiers as a prize. Neither did the people and citizens of Lebanon.
Only Hizbullah had plans, orders, and desire to go ahead with it. The Lebanese Gov. doesn't even have the means to deal with Hizbullah. WTF is Lebanon to do? Start attacking Hizbulah and risk a war with Iran? Don't think so. Hizbullah is a freaking well trained, well equipped Army. If you want to "Talk to each other" your basically dealing with  Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. And with his rhetoric and things he's said in the past year I don't think it will have any positive outcome. He's in charge and Hizullah are his own personal Army to make a diversion for his real agenda and self interest. He's gonna make nukes in our faces, with his feet up on the desk, smoking a Marlboro. And we are worried about negotiations............
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7002|Argentina

lowing wrote:

PRiMACORD wrote:

lowing wrote:

ya, and Israel's actions were in response to NOTHING I assume.
Bombing a country over 2 captured soldiers and very likely endangering the very soldiers that were captured.

Only someone as dumb as you is capable of such a feat, go join the IDF please.
More of a just cause than joining the terrorists that you and the rest of the liberal think tank hold so dear.
Lowing, as always you keep the debate very low, that's why the nick?
Your narrow mind doesn't let you see things clear.  None of us, the terrorists lap dogs liberals, are supporting terrorists.  The point here is to end this fucking war, and the only thing you have to say is the bullshit you always talk about the liberals.  Why don't you get yourself a history book, or clean the virus that fucked your pc coz your viewpoints are so wrong.  So, we must think you are not getting the proper info or you don't get it at all.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6888
end the war so we could see another one every few years
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7002|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

end the war so we could see another one every few years
At least some good movies will be made, thanks to Somalia we have Black Hawk Down.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6896|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

PRiMACORD wrote:


Bombing a country over 2 captured soldiers and very likely endangering the very soldiers that were captured.

Only someone as dumb as you is capable of such a feat, go join the IDF please.
More of a just cause than joining the terrorists that you and the rest of the liberal think tank hold so dear.
Lowing, as always you keep the debate very low, that's why the nick?
Your narrow mind doesn't let you see things clear.  None of us, the terrorists lap dogs liberals, are supporting terrorists.  The point here is to end this fucking war, and the only thing you have to say is the bullshit you always talk about the liberals.  Why don't you get yourself a history book, or clean the virus that fucked your pc coz your viewpoints are so wrong.  So, we must think you are not getting the proper info or you don't get it at all.
You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6800

lowing wrote:

You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
Lowing since when does negotiation entail 'giving the terrorists everything they want and praying they leave you alone'? Negototiation involves two or more parties stating their positions, making clear what is acceptable and what is not acceptable to them, making concessions which are acceptably reciprocated and coming to an agreed resolution or quasi-resolution (or agreeing to disagree completely). Choosing to hear one anothers positions does not bind you to submitting to the other party nor does it mean you are holding them in any higher regard than you did previously.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-31 01:42:17)

EricTViking
Yes, I am Queeg
+48|6796|UK

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:


More of a just cause than joining the terrorists that you and the rest of the liberal think tank hold so dear.
Lowing, as always you keep the debate very low, that's why the nick?
Your narrow mind doesn't let you see things clear.  None of us, the terrorists lap dogs liberals, are supporting terrorists.  The point here is to end this fucking war, and the only thing you have to say is the bullshit you always talk about the liberals.  Why don't you get yourself a history book, or clean the virus that fucked your pc coz your viewpoints are so wrong.  So, we must think you are not getting the proper info or you don't get it at all.
You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
So if you lived in Southern Lebanon as a law abiding citizen, and an Israeli LGB had just killed your family, would you want the Israelis to keep bombing?
JimmyBotswana
Member
+82|6830|Montreal

lowing wrote:

You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
LOL I want peace so I advocate war!! Lowing your idiocy never ceases to amaze me. Orwell would be so proud of you.

Hizbollah should not negotiate with Israel because Israel has no right to exist it is an illegimate country that was magically created by displacing hundreds of thousands of innocent people who up until that time had been the greatest friends of the jews. Zionism is inherently racist because its main principle states "We have more of a right to this land than do the people who lived here before us," which was exactly what Hitler's rationale was for invading Poland and every other country he invaded. If it was an illegimate land claim by Hitler, it was an illegitimate land claim by the Zionists as well.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6896|USA

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
Lowing since when does negotiation entail 'giving the terrorists everything they want and praying they leave you alone'? Negototiation involves two or more parties stating their positions, making clear what is acceptable and what is not acceptable to them, making concessions which are acceptably reciprocated and coming to an agreed resolution or quasi-resolution (or agreeing to disagree completely). Choosing to hear one anothers positions does not bind you to submitting to the other party nor does it mean you are holding them in any higher regard than you did previously.
no negotiations with terrorists..period....Wiping Israel off the face of the earth is NOT a negotiation.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6896|USA

EricTViking wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Lowing, as always you keep the debate very low, that's why the nick?
Your narrow mind doesn't let you see things clear.  None of us, the terrorists lap dogs liberals, are supporting terrorists.  The point here is to end this fucking war, and the only thing you have to say is the bullshit you always talk about the liberals.  Why don't you get yourself a history book, or clean the virus that fucked your pc coz your viewpoints are so wrong.  So, we must think you are not getting the proper info or you don't get it at all.
You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
So if you lived in Southern Lebanon as a law abiding citizen, and an Israeli LGB had just killed your family, would you want the Israelis to keep bombing?
No, I guess if I didn't want my ass kicked every other day, I would quite fuckin' with those that are doing it.
JimmyBotswana
Member
+82|6830|Montreal

lowing wrote:

No, I guess if I didn't want my ass kicked every other day, I would quite fuckin' with those that are doing it.
Gee lowing that sounds an awful lot like succumbing to terrorism.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6896|USA

JimmyBotswana wrote:

lowing wrote:

You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
LOL I want peace so I advocate war!! Lowing your idiocy never ceases to amaze me. Orwell would be so proud of you.

Hizbollah should not negotiate with Israel because Israel has no right to exist it is an illegimate country that was magically created by displacing hundreds of thousands of innocent people who up until that time had been the greatest friends of the jews. Zionism is inherently racist because its main principle states "We have more of a right to this land than do the people who lived here before us," which was exactly what Hitler's rationale was for invading Poland and every other country he invaded. If it was an illegimate land claim by Hitler, it was an illegitimate land claim by the Zionists as well.
So I guess peace and freedon just isn't something worth defending in your book huh?? Israel has every right to exist in that area same as the Muslims.


You call Israel the agressors, it is the Arabs that keep fucking with them and you know it. Israel is recognized by the your precious UN. It is not an illegal state.

I guess you had your lunch money taken from you at school all the time. Cuz it just wasn't worth fighting for.

You all are soooo anxious to succumb to terrorism Pathetic.

Any evidence at all that would show once Israel is destroyed the Islamic radicals would stop there? From what I have read it is complete convertion to Islam that is their goal for all of us.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7002|Argentina

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
Lowing since when does negotiation entail 'giving the terrorists everything they want and praying they leave you alone'? Negototiation involves two or more parties stating their positions, making clear what is acceptable and what is not acceptable to them, making concessions which are acceptably reciprocated and coming to an agreed resolution or quasi-resolution (or agreeing to disagree completely). Choosing to hear one anothers positions does not bind you to submitting to the other party nor does it mean you are holding them in any higher regard than you did previously.
Lowing there's my answer, CameronPoe wakes up earlier, so he won me.
Lisik
Member
+74|6745|Israel

HM1{N} wrote:

Israel hates anyone that isn't a Zionist Jew.
Are u from Fatah or something? Were did u get this shit from?
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7011|UK
FOR CHRIST SAKE PPL JUST LET THEM KILL EACH OTHER! Im beyond giving a shit about either of them, if they cant work it out peacefully fuck em! Sorry if that seems a bit extreme but this has been going on so long and its all for nothing!
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7002|Argentina

lowing wrote:

JimmyBotswana wrote:

lowing wrote:

You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
LOL I want peace so I advocate war!! Lowing your idiocy never ceases to amaze me. Orwell would be so proud of you.

Hizbollah should not negotiate with Israel because Israel has no right to exist it is an illegimate country that was magically created by displacing hundreds of thousands of innocent people who up until that time had been the greatest friends of the jews. Zionism is inherently racist because its main principle states "We have more of a right to this land than do the people who lived here before us," which was exactly what Hitler's rationale was for invading Poland and every other country he invaded. If it was an illegimate land claim by Hitler, it was an illegitimate land claim by the Zionists as well.
So I guess peace and freedon just isn't something worth defending in your book huh?? Israel has every right to exist in that area same as the Muslims.


You call Israel the agressors, it is the Arabs that keep fucking with them and you know it. Israel is recognized by the your precious UN. It is not an illegal state.

I guess you had your lunch money taken from you at school all the time. Cuz it just wasn't worth fighting for.

You all are soooo anxious to succumb to terrorism Pathetic.

Any evidence at all that would show once Israel is destroyed the Islamic radicals would stop there? From what I have read it is complete convertion to Islam that is their goal for all of us.
Israel is in that place and that's the reality.  Both sides have rights on that land.  So Israel must open to negotiation.  Your quotes "you don't negotiate with terrorists" and the others, leave them for Hollywood.  What you must seek here is achieving the peace in middle east, and I'm pretty sure that your war against terrorism will bring more terrorism from both sides.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7011|UK

JimmyBotswana wrote:

lowing wrote:

You want PEACE AT ANY PRICE.......YOU want to negotiate with terrorists give them what they want and pray they leave you alone. I am not for any of that. I want the war over as well. I want a world of peace for me and my family, but I do not condone succumbing to terrorism for it.
LOL I want peace so I advocate war!! Lowing your idiocy never ceases to amaze me. Orwell would be so proud of you.

Hizbollah should not negotiate with Israel because Israel has no right to exist it is an illegimate country that was magically created by displacing hundreds of thousands of innocent people who up until that time had been the greatest friends of the jews. Zionism is inherently racist because its main principle states "We have more of a right to this land than do the people who lived here before us," which was exactly what Hitler's rationale was for invading Poland and every other country he invaded. If it was an illegimate land claim by Hitler, it was an illegitimate land claim by the Zionists as well.
Well tbh based on that rule Palestine has no right to exist seeing as it was made after WWI by the British.
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6930

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

JimmyBotswana wrote:


LOL I want peace so I advocate war!! Lowing your idiocy never ceases to amaze me. Orwell would be so proud of you.

Hizbollah should not negotiate with Israel because Israel has no right to exist it is an illegimate country that was magically created by displacing hundreds of thousands of innocent people who up until that time had been the greatest friends of the jews. Zionism is inherently racist because its main principle states "We have more of a right to this land than do the people who lived here before us," which was exactly what Hitler's rationale was for invading Poland and every other country he invaded. If it was an illegimate land claim by Hitler, it was an illegitimate land claim by the Zionists as well.
So I guess peace and freedon just isn't something worth defending in your book huh?? Israel has every right to exist in that area same as the Muslims.


You call Israel the agressors, it is the Arabs that keep fucking with them and you know it. Israel is recognized by the your precious UN. It is not an illegal state.

I guess you had your lunch money taken from you at school all the time. Cuz it just wasn't worth fighting for.

You all are soooo anxious to succumb to terrorism Pathetic.

Any evidence at all that would show once Israel is destroyed the Islamic radicals would stop there? From what I have read it is complete convertion to Islam that is their goal for all of us.
Israel is in that place and that's the reality.  Both sides have rights on that land.  So Israel must open to negotiation.  Your quotes "you don't negotiate with terrorists" and the others, leave them for Hollywood.  What you must seek here is achieving the peace in middle east, and I'm pretty sure that your war against terrorism will bring more terrorism from both sides.
Isreal did agree to give Palestine recognition and land at one point.  Hezbollah and other idiots have decided to reject that point.  Therefore negotiations are now pointless.  Bomb the fucking terrorists back to the stone age.

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