Isreal//Lebanon

2006-08-25 12:55:03

#1

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6893

So far in the conflict, 827 Lebanese, mostly civilians, have been killed, according to Lebanon Internal Security Forces. The IDF says the Israeli death toll stands at 120, including 38 civilians.

The sources say more than 700 Israelis and 3,200 Lebanese have been wounded.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/ … tml-source

Why is it that Israel always insist on killing 8 times more of their enemy and why is the death toll of the enemy mostly civillians??
Obviously the economically stronger and militaristically(if its a word) stronger country are going to cause more casualties but you'd think that with the technology of Israels defence system they would kill more actual soldiers than civillians.
Lets hope the cease fire actually lasts a while to prevent more civillian fuck ups

2006-08-25 12:58:21

#2

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6889

Israel is fighting an enemy that hides behind its own civilians. They launch rockets from civilian neighborhoods, that is why civilian towns are being destroyed. One could attribute the majority of civilian casualties in this conflict to the cowardice of Hezbollah. Israel is not directly targeting nor eterminating the civilian population. Additionally, Hezbollah generally does not have "soldiers" in uniform that can be distinguished from regular civilians.

This topic has been done to death.

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2006-08-25 13:00:25

#3

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6893

so that justifies killing all those civillians.. ud think they could get thier intelligence correct

2006-08-25 13:02:23

#4

P581: Monkey; +44|6712

Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Isreal is fighting an enemy that hides behind its own civilians. They launch rockets from civilian neighborhoods, that is why civilian towns are being destroyed. One could attribute the majority of civilian casualties in this conflict to the cowardice of Hezbollah. Isreal is not directly targeting nor eterminating the civilian population. Additionally, Hezbollah generally does not have "soldiers" in uniform that can be distinguished from regular civilians.

This topic has been done to death.

I love this stuff, you jump from thread to thread trying to close lame posts don't you? I'll help you out with a big old thumbs up. Too much crap like this here, no one has an original thought, they just recycle lasts weeks argument with there own words.

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2006-08-25 13:03:25

#5

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6889

..teddy..jimmy wrote:
so that justifies killing all those civillians.. ud think they could get thier intelligence correct

Yes. Hezbollah is targetting civilians, Israel is targetting Hezbollah, who happen to base themselves in civilian neighborhoods.

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2006-08-25 13:04:06

#6

rawls2: Mr. Bigglesworth; +89|6803

Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Isreal is fighting an enemy that hides behind its own civilians. They launch rockets from civilian neighborhoods, that is why civilian towns are being destroyed. One could attribute the majority of civilian casualties in this conflict to the cowardice of Hezbollah. Isreal is not directly targeting nor eterminating the civilian population. Additionally, Hezbollah generally does not have "soldiers" in uniform that can be distinguished from regular civilians.

This topic has been done to death.

QFT!

It is what it is.

2006-08-25 13:04:07

#7

{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank: U.S. > Iran; +497|6821|Florida

Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Isreal is fighting an enemy that hides behind its own civilians. They launch rockets from civilian neighborhoods, that is why civilian towns are being destroyed. One could attribute the majority of civilian casualties in this conflict to the cowardice of Hezbollah. Isreal is not directly targeting nor eterminating the civilian population. Additionally, Hezbollah generally does not have "soldiers" in uniform that can be distinguished from regular civilians.

This topic has been done to death.

I was going to say the exact same.....thanks Fancy, you saved me some time and thought

2006-08-25 13:04:49

#8

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6893

Fancy_Pollux wrote:
..teddy..jimmy wrote:
so that justifies killing all those civillians.. ud think they could get thier intelligence correct
Yes. Hezbollah is targetting civilians, Isreal is targetting Hezbollah, who happen to base themselves in civilian neighborhoods.

Israels civillian death toll is less than Lebanons

2006-08-25 13:06:02

#9

rawls2: Mr. Bigglesworth; +89|6803

..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Fancy_Pollux wrote:
..teddy..jimmy wrote:
so that justifies killing all those civillians.. ud think they could get thier intelligence correct
Yes. Hezbollah is targetting civilians, Isreal is targetting Hezbollah, who happen to base themselves in civilian neighborhoods.
Israels civillian death toll is less than Lebanons

Because Israel leaves their civilians at home and Hezbollah brings them to the fight, as shields.

2006-08-25 13:06:39

#10

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6889

..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Fancy_Pollux wrote:
..teddy..jimmy wrote:
so that justifies killing all those civillians.. ud think they could get thier intelligence correct
Yes. Hezbollah is targetting civilians, Isreal is targetting Hezbollah, who happen to base themselves in civilian neighborhoods.
Israels civillian death toll is less than Lebanons

That is irrelevent. Hezbollah, unlike Israel, is actually targetting civilians, which happens to be a war crime.

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2006-08-25 13:07:03

#11

P581: Monkey; +44|6712

..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Fancy_Pollux wrote:
..teddy..jimmy wrote:
so that justifies killing all those civillians.. ud think they could get thier intelligence correct
Yes. Hezbollah is targetting civilians, Isreal is targetting Hezbollah, who happen to base themselves in civilian neighborhoods.
Israels civillian death toll is less than Lebanons

less monkeys eat popsicles than people. you tell me your point, and I'll tell you mine.

2006-08-25 13:07:49

#12

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6889

P581 wrote:
..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Yes. Hezbollah is targetting civilians, Isreal is targetting Hezbollah, who happen to base themselves in civilian neighborhoods.
Israels civillian death toll is less than Lebanons
less monkeys eat popsicles than people. you tell me your point, and I'll tell you mine.

+1'd

2006-08-25 13:08:35

#13

jonsimon: Member; +224|6738

Teddy, it seems Israel isn't too concerned who they kill. Could be that the Israeli government's racism extends outside their borders, but who knows.

Don't bother with pollux, nothing you can say will soften his hard head up.

2006-08-25 13:11:00

#14

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6893

Pollux should I use Palestine as an example as well??

2006-08-25 13:11:45

#15

rawls2: Mr. Bigglesworth; +89|6803

jonsimon wrote:
Teddy, it seems Israel isn't too concerned who they kill. Could be that the Israeli government's racism extends outside their borders, but who knows.

Don't bother with pollux, nothing you can say will soften his hard head up.

Unlike Hezbollah who is only concerned about killing non-combatants.

2006-08-25 13:13:53

#16

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6889

rawls2 wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
Teddy, it seems Israel isn't too concerned who they kill. Could be that the Israeli government's racism extends outside their borders, but who knows.

Don't bother with pollux, nothing you can say will soften his hard head up.
Unlike Hezbollah who is only concerned about killing non-combatants.

Owned by irony.

+1

2006-08-25 13:13:59

#17

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6893

rawls2 wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
Teddy, it seems Israel isn't too concerned who they kill. Could be that the Israeli government's racism extends outside their borders, but who knows.

Don't bother with pollux, nothing you can say will soften his hard head up.
Unlike Hezbollah who is only concerned about killing non-combatants.

I truly believe that if Hezbollah were that mind set on killing civillians then the israel civillian death toll would be higher.

2006-08-25 13:15:55

#18

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6889

..teddy..jimmy wrote:
I truly believe that if Hezbollah were that mind set on killing civillians then the israel civillian death toll would be higher.

Why? Hezbollah uses homemade rockets which they launch into civilian neighborhoods. Israel is the most militarized country on Earth. Do you have any idea what you're talking about here? I enjoy a good debate, but you're making this too easy.

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2006-08-25 13:18:01

#19

jonsimon: Member; +224|6738

rawls2 wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
Teddy, it seems Israel isn't too concerned who they kill. Could be that the Israeli government's racism extends outside their borders, but who knows.

Don't bother with pollux, nothing you can say will soften his hard head up.
Unlike Hezbollah who is only concerned about killing non-combatants.

Right, hezbollah doesn't have any reason to fight the IDF. Instead, hezbollah sends the IDF greeting cards because its the civillians that hezbollah is angry at.

2006-08-25 13:20:51

#20

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6889

jonsimon wrote:
Right, hezbollah doesn't have any reason to fight the IDF. Instead, hezbollah sends the IDF greeting cards because its the civillians that hezbollah is angry at.

The rockets they fire into Israel are engineered to kill civilians, not military targets. Although you attempted to be sarcastic, what you said was actually true.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0607/S00322.htm

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2006-08-25 13:21:22

#21

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6893

Fancy_Pollux wrote:
..teddy..jimmy wrote:
I truly believe that if Hezbollah were that mind set on killing civillians then the israel civillian death toll would be higher.
Why? Hezbollah uses homemade rockets which they launch into civilian neighborhoods. Isreal is the most militarized country on Earth. Do you have any idea what you're talking about here? I enjoy a good debate, but you're making this too easy.

Israel also bomb the shit out of lebanon and since their technology is so advanced they should be able to hit the rite target. It just shows their intelligence is totally crap. Israel are doing the same in Palestine. I obviously know what im talking about here and that is the death toll which is what I have posted on the first mail.

2006-08-25 13:22:48

#22

rawls2: Mr. Bigglesworth; +89|6803

Hezbollah wont go heads up against the IDF because they would get slaughtered. Instead they attack the women and children left behind unprotected. Hezbollah picks the battlefield and they chose Lebanese neighborhoods. So tell me, who isn't concerned about who gets killed. Its the Hezzies who don't care.

2006-08-25 13:25:07

#23

jonsimon: Member; +224|6738

rawls2 wrote:
Hezbollah wont go heads up against the IDF because they would get slaughtered. Instead they attack the women and children left behind unprotected. Hezbollah picks the battlefield and they chose Lebanese neighborhoods. So tell me, who isn't concerned about who gets killed. Its the Hezzies who don't care.

But hezbollah has killed more IDF than civillians. That proves they are targeting the IDF, whether or not they are targeting civillians as well.

2006-08-25 13:26:42

#24

Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6889

..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Israel also bomb the shit out of lebanon and since their technology is so advanced they should be able to hit the rite target. It just shows their intelligence is totally crap. Israel are doing the same in Palestine. I obviously know what im talking about here and that is the death toll which is what I have posted on the first mail.

That must be why nearly everyone in this thread is agreeing with my points and not yours? You know absolutely nothing about the situation. If Hezbollah launches rockets from a civilian hotel or school, they are making a target of that civilian structure. There are no precision bombs that can soley destroy a missile launcher placed on the 17th floor of an appartment complex and leave the rest of the building standing. Hezbollah both targets and makes targets of civilian areas.

Try adding this to your arguments:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search? … =0&y=0

2006-08-25 13:27:14

#25

Phantom2828: Member; +51|6771|Land of the free

jonsimon wrote:
rawls2 wrote:
Hezbollah wont go heads up against the IDF because they would get slaughtered. Instead they attack the women and children left behind unprotected. Hezbollah picks the battlefield and they chose Lebanese neighborhoods. So tell me, who isn't concerned about who gets killed. Its the Hezzies who don't care.
But hezbollah has killed more IDF than civillians. That proves they are targeting the IDF, whether or not they are targeting civillians as well.

That is bullshit

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