Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

If Iran was not worried about the repercussions from the US/UN would it try to destroy Israel by any means?
What degree would Iran go to if you think they would ?   

I know what Iran has said about Israel.
I just wan't to hear your thoughts.
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PRiMACORD
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Supposing it was a conventional attack, i don't think so, they would get sent back to the stone age once we come in to protect Israel.

If it was a nuclear attack...again i don't think so since they would then get nuked 6 ways from allah akbhar.

Either way, killing your enemy really isn't worth it if you don't live to see it.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799
They're not stupid. Iran attacks Israel = Israel nukes all of Iran. As such, there won't be an overt attack. They will still try and get at them through the likes of Hezbollah though. Iran having a nuclear deterrent will just mean Israel won't be able to act the bully as much as it does.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-25 02:11:12)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

Ahmadinejad has called for the Jewish state to be “wiped off the map” over and over. That is why I ask this question. He also  called Israel a "rotten, dried tree" that will be annihilated by "one storm." I don't know, maybe something  is lost in interpretation.
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OXTHAFOX
Member
+18|6910

Kmarion wrote:

Ahmadinejad has called for the Jewish state to be “wiped off the map” over and over. That is why I ask this question. He also  called Israel a "rotten, dried tree" that will be annihilated by "one storm." I don't know, maybe something  is lost in interpretation.
This so called president of Iran is not as dumb as he looks. These things about whiping Israel of the map, calling it a rotten tree is pure PROPAGANDA. Brainwashing "the DUMBASS society". The more often the people on the street hear this propaganda BULLSHIT the more people start to believe in it...

BUT, everybody in the world knows that this is IMPOSSIBLE, how could Iran whipe Israel from the world?? And just imagine what will happen next........ The 3rd World War will start and the "rotten parts" of the middle east (syria/Iran) will be batterd so hard over and over and over that they will regret the situation for life!

Sorry for my spelling mistakes.... I'm Dutch

PeaCe and Death to all them Terror Whores in the World
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799

Kmarion wrote:

Ahmadinejad has called for the Jewish state to be “wiped off the map” over and over. That is why I ask this question. He also  called Israel a "rotten, dried tree" that will be annihilated by "one storm." I don't know, maybe something  is lost in interpretation.
Kmarion, most leaders as you well know talk tough rhetorically to gain support and influence. It never usually means anything. At the moment nobody is really in a fit state to wage war on Iran. As such, he is free to talk tough without any serious threat of dire repercussions. The Iraq war is his golden chance to gain favour among the entire muslim world, while USA is locked down in a war of attrition, by making his outlandish claims. THis is all just a battle for regional hearts and minds between Iran (the main Shia power) and Saudi Arabia (the main Sunni power).

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-25 02:32:57)

fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6734|Menlo Park, CA

CameronPoe wrote:

They're not stupid. Iran attacks Israel = Israel nukes all of Iran. As such, there won't be an overt attack. They will still try and get at them through the likes of Hezbollah though. Iran having a nuclear deterrent will just mean Israel won't be able to act the bully as much as it does.
Sure, they were a real aggressor when they got invaded by all their neighbors in 1967. . . everyone of the countries that surrounds them is their mortal enemy!!

I would imagine you would be a little defensive if you were in their position.  I am not saying I blindly support Israel, and what they have done over the years, but you can see why they might react the way they do.  When Iran says that they want to wipe Israel off the map, you can bet Israel is developing a contingency plan.  Iran wants to blackmail Israel and the USA with a nuke, the bottom line is Europe and the USA need to stop that from happening.  Cause lets face it, Europe is way closer to Iran then we are(USA), and a nuke hitting Europe is a very real possibility if we continue to let these nutcases develop the weapon.   

Negotiations have failed, as well as sanctions. . . Iran will not stop their pursuit!! Its time to drop the hammer down on Iran with some real SUBSTANCE as opposed to empty threats and promises.  A nuclear armed Iran is the final ingredient for WWIII.  Letting Iran off the hook on this is a LOSING PROPOSITION!!!

And YES if Iran gets the bomb, I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if they drop it on Israel! NOT ONE BIT!!
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US
In all fairness, it does take a lot less nukes to take out Israel than it does to take out Iran.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7001|Argentina
Why would they nuke Israel, if the terrorists job is harder to fight than a straight nuke form Iran.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799

fadedsteve wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

They're not stupid. Iran attacks Israel = Israel nukes all of Iran. As such, there won't be an overt attack. They will still try and get at them through the likes of Hezbollah though. Iran having a nuclear deterrent will just mean Israel won't be able to act the bully as much as it does.
Sure, they were a real aggressor when they got invaded by all their neighbors in 1967. . . everyone of the countries that surrounds them is their mortal enemy!!
Mortal enemy and rightly so. Maybe I didn't read my history books correctly but didn't Israel strike first in 1967?

"Israel's first and most important move was a pre-emptive attack on the Egyptian Air Force. It was by far the largest and the most modern of all the Arab air forces, consisting of about 450 combat aircraft, all of them Soviet-built and relatively new."

Not to mention numerous other agressive actions in the years preceding the 1967 war.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738
Iran is bolstering its support and whittling away at Israel. Given an oppertunity to to remove Israel or the Israeli regime, they may act. But real wars these days are fought through the people, and Iran is winning on that battlefield.
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6741|Texas
Israel did strike first, but what is almost always left out of that little bit of misinformation is that Egypt (1) moved troops and tanks to an offensive posture, and more importantly (2) blockaded Israel in the Gulf of Akaba and Suez Canal.

You can argue that irrespective of agreements, Egypt had the right to blockade Israel from the Suez Canal, but there's no way you can make a legitimate argument that Egypt had the right to blockade Israel in the Gulf of Akaba.

I don't consider attacking a country that is massing troops and blockading your shipping lanes a "preemptive strike". I call that a retaliation for an act of war.
aqempty
Member
+6|6749|international waters
siria and iran needs a reason to start it, because USA will help israel if they strikes first, so if israel start it they would respond with everything . the defeats of the passed wars hurts them hard.
Colfax
PR Only
+70|6887|United States - Illinois
Everyone keeps saying they would but USA would react or someone else would react.  Well the question says no reprecussions. 

So i think yes with no reprecussions  Iran by all means would nuke that shit out of Isreal.

Last edited by Colfax (2006-08-25 08:04:57)

Bernadictus
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+1,055|6980

PRiMACORD wrote:

Supposing it was a conventional attack, i don't think so, they would get sent back to the stone age once we come in to protect Israel.

If it was a nuclear attack...again i don't think so since they would then get nuked 6 ways from allah akbhar.

Either way, killing your enemy really isn't worth it if you don't live to see it.
Protect Israel? Lol! It has the second best airforce in the world. Except for those yanks.

But anyway Iran wouldn't dare.
Colfax
PR Only
+70|6887|United States - Illinois
Except Isreal can't fly to Iran and back.  They would have to refuel at some point on the ground or mid air.  Seeing as on the ground isn't available they would need some help.  From the U.S. with refueling planes.  Thats if we helped theem.
mafia996630
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i don't get it ? has Iran got nukes? as far as i know, if they 100 percent had nukes, u.s would have done something about it already. i think Iran is trying to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, but even this is not good for the u.s .

IF Iran has got nuclear weapons and does use it, then u.s and Israel and loads of other countries are screwed. Be cos if someone takes out Iran, there is Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon and Tehran.
ToXiC888
Cal players > BF2s
+40|6828|Columbus,Ohio-THE Ohio State U

PRiMACORD wrote:

Supposing it was a conventional attack, i don't think so, they would get sent back to the stone age once we come in to protect Israel.

If it was a nuclear attack...again i don't think so since they would then get nuked 6 ways from allah akbhar.

Either way, killing your enemy really isn't worth it if you don't live to see it.
Israel wouldnt even need the US's help.  They have a very effective military, and especially a very effective air force.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

ToXiC888 wrote:

PRiMACORD wrote:

Supposing it was a conventional attack, i don't think so, they would get sent back to the stone age once we come in to protect Israel.

If it was a nuclear attack...again i don't think so since they would then get nuked 6 ways from allah akbhar.

Either way, killing your enemy really isn't worth it if you don't live to see it.
Israel wouldnt even need the US's help.  They have a very effective military, and especially a very effective air force.
Technically if they attack with their airforce they ARE using our help.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6711
I would just like to say that if china invaded america like in AF then israel would not help america.
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6803

Kmarion wrote:

If Iran was not worried about the repercussions from the US/UN would it try to destroy Israel by any means?
What degree would Iran go to if you think they would ?   

I know what Iran has said about Israel.
I just wan't to hear your thoughts.
Where have you been the last month? Iran has already engaged Israel via Hezbollah. Iran has attacked America in Lebanon via Hezbollah.
GATOR591957
Member
+84|6870

Colfax wrote:

Except Isreal can't fly to Iran and back.  They would have to refuel at some point on the ground or mid air.  Seeing as on the ground isn't available they would need some help.  From the U.S. with refueling planes.  Thats if we helped theem.
I can guarantee you Isreal has Tankers on order or they have already been delivered.
Capt.J.Tyler
Member
+1|6703
I think the only reason iran isn't directly attacking Israel is because the U.S. is the only thing standing the way.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

rawls2 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If Iran was not worried about the repercussions from the US/UN would it try to destroy Israel by any means?
What degree would Iran go to if you think they would ?   

I know what Iran has said about Israel.
I just wan't to hear your thoughts.
Where have you been the last month? Iran has already engaged Israel via Hezbollah. Iran has attacked America in Lebanon via Hezbollah.
I am not talking about proxies. I am talking about a direct attack to destroy Israel.
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jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

Kmarion wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If Iran was not worried about the repercussions from the US/UN would it try to destroy Israel by any means?
What degree would Iran go to if you think they would ?   

I know what Iran has said about Israel.
I just wan't to hear your thoughts.
Where have you been the last month? Iran has already engaged Israel via Hezbollah. Iran has attacked America in Lebanon via Hezbollah.
I am not talking about proxies. I am talking about a direct attack to destroy Israel.
Besides, its only conjecture that Iran has some hand in Hezbollah's pocket.

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