BF2S Forums 1.4 patch Any Confirmed release date?

haha. You guys have no idea what "coding" means. Sorry.

The engine is also part of BF2s "coding". What you mean to say, without any evidence to back it up, is that it is not the core graphics/physics/networking of the BF2 engine which is at fault.

To the person that said the engine had absolutely no faults, you are clearly ignorant. NASA's mission critical stuff is considered to be the most perfect "code" we can get, and even that stuff has 1 or 2 errors every release. Most normal large scale commercial releases will have several thousand, and BF2 is certainly no exception there.

When they patch BF2, they are usually also making changes to the engine, even if the majority of the visible changes you see are only in the game objects. For BF2142 they had to make many changes to the engine to suit the new game. Just as other vendors have to make many changes to Havok, Doom3, Serious Sam etc. etc. engines when they make a new game using them.

It's really more like a starting point, and a pre-defined structure, to use.

1.4 is the most thoroughly tested and deliberated patch that has ever been released for BF2, hopefully we will all be pleasantly surprised at how good it is, when it comes.

vanmani wrote:

haha. You guys have no idea what "coding" means. Sorry.

The engine is also part of BF2s "coding". What you mean to say, without any evidence to back it up, is that it is not the core graphics/physics/networking of the BF2 engine which is at fault.

To the person that said the engine had absolutely no faults, you are clearly ignorant. NASA's mission critical stuff is considered to be the most perfect "code" we can get, and even that stuff has 1 or 2 errors every release. Most normal large scale commercial releases will have several thousand, and BF2 is certainly no exception there.

When they patch BF2, they are usually also making changes to the engine, even if the majority of the visible changes you see are only in the game objects. For BF2142 they had to make many changes to the engine to suit the new game. Just as other vendors have to make many changes to Havok, Doom3, Serious Sam etc. etc. engines when they make a new game using them.

It's really more like a starting point, and a pre-defined structure, to use.

1.4 is the most thoroughly tested and deliberated patch that has ever been released for BF2, hopefully we will all be pleasantly surprised at how good it is, when it comes.

Well put.  EA/DICE is obviously trying to make this patch work and avoid a lot of the problems with previous patches, so I give them credit for that, and I will assume that that is why the patch release date keeps getting pushed back.  It'll come eventually...

cohen1976 wrote:

any signs it wil come today??

I think next Tuesday as usual...

belevre wrote:

http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=27827&sid=1a848cccd05eb3c8316fce47728bb3be

soon

Damn... Their excuses are really pathetic.

JdeFalconr wrote:

=MCHD= arush5268d wrote:

vanmani wrote:

haha. You guys have no idea what "coding" means. Sorry.

The engine is also part of BF2s "coding". What you mean to say, without any evidence to back it up, is that it is not the core graphics/physics/networking of the BF2 engine which is at fault.

To the person that said the engine had absolutely no faults, you are clearly ignorant. NASA's mission critical stuff is considered to be the most perfect "code" we can get, and even that stuff has 1 or 2 errors every release. Most normal large scale commercial releases will have several thousand, and BF2 is certainly no exception there.

When they patch BF2, they are usually also making changes to the engine, even if the majority of the visible changes you see are only in the game objects. For BF2142 they had to make many changes to the engine to suit the new game. Just as other vendors have to make many changes to Havok, Doom3, Serious Sam etc. etc. engines when they make a new game using them.

It's really more like a starting point, and a pre-defined structure, to use.

1.4 is the most thoroughly tested and deliberated patch that has ever been released for BF2, hopefully we will all be pleasantly surprised at how good it is, when it comes.

Well put.  EA/DICE is obviously trying to make this patch work and avoid a lot of the problems with previous patches, so I give them credit for that, and I will assume that that is why the patch release date keeps getting pushed back.  It'll come eventually...

I agree, and I'm very glad to see EA working hard to make this a good release. However I think it's too little too late. They should have put forth the same efforts and quality control on all their previous patches and, more importantly, the original game release. While I acknowledge that such software programs are incredibly complex and have thousands of lines of code to go through EA/DICE are professional game companies and should operate in a professional manner. Releasing products that are buggy and incomplete to the same extent BF2 and its patches are is not a professional move despite how it's the norm for game companies these days (remember, it didn't used to be this way with games). Some bugs, yes I can understand. But this many bugs that have gone unresolved for this long is silly. 1.3 with its server crash bug shouldn't have even gotten out the door! It took how many...five or six...patches to even attempt a fix for the red/blue name bug, a bug that severely affects gameplay. Complexity of code is one thing but this is out of hand; in my opinion at this point DICE has no excuse.

Do you really think they are working hard on the patch? :rotfl:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

I think we sould have gotten a 1.31 a week after 1.3's release instead of a 1.4 three months after 1.3's release. It is odd how 1.2 had less bugs, and less major ones than 1.3 but it got a hotfix instead of 1.3. I think EA is run by Dick cheney and Halliburton.

I totally quote. It is absurd the release of a "patch" like 1.3 without an hotfix in the few next days. +1 man.

i can handle the bugs i have got used to them the only thing i 1t the patch for is the map road to jalalalalalalalbadass it looks soooooooooooooooo sweet

Do you really think they are working hard on the patch? :rotfl:

Don't forget that 2142 is being made by a separate DICE team than the group that worked on and (I would imagine) is working on BF2 and its patches.

~Solar~Fire~ wrote:

Lets be clear about the real reason the patch has been delayed: EA has basically forgotten about BF2. Why spend money paying programmers to fix BF2 when 2142 is right around the corner? The 1.4 patch isn't going to give them $50. As 2142 gets closer to being ready for release, 1.4 slips further back into obscurity.

EA dances on a very fine line of keeping people just barely interested in buying their games, they just do the bare minimum. Its well known that they treat their developers like utter crap with harsh deadlines and insane amounts of forced overtime. Theres also their exclusive hold on sports games. I don't need to go on about their hostility towards the modding community. Read it all on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Arts#Criticism

EA is a corporate monster, their only aim is to make things just barely good enough for people to buy. Mark my words: BF2142 won't really be much better than BF2. It'll basically just be new uniforms guns and maps with giant machines that walk instead of tanks. It'll be just barely enough to convince us all to buy it, complete with crap patches and stupid 'expansion packs'

So basically, 1.4 and BF2142 will be the same, except you'll have to pay $50 for one of them.

i couldnt agree more sir!!!!!

~Solar~Fire~ wrote:

Lets be clear about the real reason the patch has been delayed: EA has basically forgotten about BF2. Why spend money paying programmers to fix BF2 when 2142 is right around the corner? The 1.4 patch isn't going to give them $50. As 2142 gets closer to being ready for release, 1.4 slips further back into obscurity.

EA dances on a very fine line of keeping people just barely interested in buying their games, they just do the bare minimum. Its well known that they treat their developers like utter crap with harsh deadlines and insane amounts of forced overtime. Theres also their exclusive hold on sports games. I don't need to go on about their hostility towards the modding community. Read it all on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Arts#Criticism

EA is a corporate monster, their only aim is to make things just barely good enough for people to buy. Mark my words: BF2142 won't really be much better than BF2. It'll basically just be new uniforms guns and maps with giant machines that walk instead of tanks. It'll be just barely enough to convince us all to buy it, complete with crap patches and stupid 'expansion packs'

So basically, 1.4 and BF2142 will be the same, except you'll have to pay $50 for one of them.

Man... you MUST have a +1 from me!

=MCHD= arush5268d wrote:

1.4 is a hoax

Worse. 1.4 IS BF2142 !

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I did hear the same thing