GENIUS.Ikarti wrote:
If you're honestly questioning why there isn't White Entertainment Television, you must have missed Friends.
Noo spearhead, accusing liberals of not wanting to do anything to protect the very freedoms that give them the rights and privileges that we all enjoy as Americans is a far cry from saying "Cameronpoe wants us all dead". I called you all hypocrites for not standing up to defend, but, to the best of my recollection, I never accused the liberals of "wanting us all dead". Although, now that ya mention it................Spearhead wrote:
You imply it in everything you post. You believe people either support the war or support the terrorists. And don't tell me something different, because almost every post you've made proves that point. You imply that in almost every post, than when someone points it out, you imply they have impaired judgment. It's all implications with you, so you can always fall back and say "Well, I didn't REALLY say that".lowing wrote:
LOL nope spearhead you are wrong as usual.....( whatever kind of response that is)Spearhead wrote:
Nope, lowing. You're wrong, as usual.
Shipbuilder is right. And by the way, CameronPoe doesn't want us all dead, which is the delusion which has poisoned lowings judgement since day 1.
I really don't remember where I said Cameronpoe "wanted us all dead" or any variation of that sentiment. Perhaps you can show me. Then we will talk about impaired judgment.
Cameronpoe, do you recall me ever accusing you of wanting us all dead??
Quite frankly, most of this is a waste of time. The libs will never convince the neo cons, and vice versa. It's usually just a long chain of exchanging reasons until it turns into a flame war.
As far as this whole racism thing goes, the fact still remains that blacks are part of the lower classes of America, and they DO have some right to dislike some white people. Not all, but some. And there are plenty of blacks who don't like the black hostility towards whites, either. But the way some of you say it on these forums makes it sound as if blacks are taking over, and that you're victims of injustice.
Speaking of racism, this sentence here, is probably one of the most racist comments I have read on here.
Spearhead wrote..........>"As far as this whole racism thing goes, the fact still remains that blacks are part of the lower classes of America, and they DO have some right to dislike some white people."
Oh was firends different from the Cosby show, Martin, A Different World, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Steve Harvy, Amen, Family Matters etc..........????????Lionbeat wrote:
GENIUS.Ikarti wrote:
If you're honestly questioning why there isn't White Entertainment Television, you must have missed Friends.
All of these shows aired on the same 3 networks as Friends. The author did not address TV shows, he addressed BLACK E.T. as opposed to there NOT being an openly FOR WHITES" network channel because to do so would be racist. I happen to agree. Nice try at diversion though.
hahaha - you've never seen Eddie Murphy RAW I take it.
"My wife, Caamiiiiiillle, handles the TACK-it money!"
Fact is, the programs featuring blacks on main-stream TV don't represent blacks as blacks would have it - they represent black people in a white context. The Fresh Prince kinda makes this obvious - he moves to Bel Air. That's why things are funny for him, watching Carlton etc acting like white folks ostensibly, but in fact generally becoming part of that way of life.
Look, I'm not trying to argue about the merits of any particular comedy.
The point that Ikarti made, in a very pithy way, is that existing TV caters perfectly to white people- of course it does, it's designed perdominantly by and for them. Same here in the UK with the BBC, tho the BBC has an educational and creative remit to cater to the diaspora of the population. Notwithstanding that remit, ethnic monorities account for about 10% of the UK population (lies, lies and statistics - I made that up, but it must be about right overall; in Urban areas it's much higher), so it's only right that most of the programming is aimed at a white audience. Therefore, there is no need for a specifically white-culture oriented channel in the UK or the USA.
Black or Asian or any other culture, however, are not catered for so comprehensively, and therefore the creation of a station to cater for these specifically can surely be countenanced. In fact, it exists on the BBC right now, in BBC 1Xtra which features Black Music like Hip Hop, Regga and Jungle etc. There's a real need for this, as it allows specialities to develop from that culture, and for artists from those cultures or, importantly, any artists interested in those cultural forms (without regard to race) are able to learn from a more concentrated exposure to the culture; as opposed to brief snatches of what interests them, in an otherwise overwhelmingly white oriented media.
Surely this is obvious? It's no bad thing - access is to all and for all, based on an individual's personal interest. It's not like what goes out on the Black channels is all about how Blacks should hate white people, or on the Asian channels how all Hindus should be militarising to retrieve land from Pakistan in Kashmir etc etc etc.
Come on, bit of lateral thinking mate. Stop being such a race obsessed protectionist white goon. Ignore racism - it's futile and ignorant in its basis; which is why it's so easy for any of us to be prone to it.
Let me leave you with this. Read Haile Selassie's 'WAR' speech, here... It's all about what we need to achieve, there's no bother in keep talking about it. Get on with it man.
http://www.rastaites.com/speeches/peace.html ... search on "That until the philosophy" to go direct to the most relevant tract.
Ras Tafar I
"My wife, Caamiiiiiillle, handles the TACK-it money!"
Fact is, the programs featuring blacks on main-stream TV don't represent blacks as blacks would have it - they represent black people in a white context. The Fresh Prince kinda makes this obvious - he moves to Bel Air. That's why things are funny for him, watching Carlton etc acting like white folks ostensibly, but in fact generally becoming part of that way of life.
Look, I'm not trying to argue about the merits of any particular comedy.
The point that Ikarti made, in a very pithy way, is that existing TV caters perfectly to white people- of course it does, it's designed perdominantly by and for them. Same here in the UK with the BBC, tho the BBC has an educational and creative remit to cater to the diaspora of the population. Notwithstanding that remit, ethnic monorities account for about 10% of the UK population (lies, lies and statistics - I made that up, but it must be about right overall; in Urban areas it's much higher), so it's only right that most of the programming is aimed at a white audience. Therefore, there is no need for a specifically white-culture oriented channel in the UK or the USA.
Black or Asian or any other culture, however, are not catered for so comprehensively, and therefore the creation of a station to cater for these specifically can surely be countenanced. In fact, it exists on the BBC right now, in BBC 1Xtra which features Black Music like Hip Hop, Regga and Jungle etc. There's a real need for this, as it allows specialities to develop from that culture, and for artists from those cultures or, importantly, any artists interested in those cultural forms (without regard to race) are able to learn from a more concentrated exposure to the culture; as opposed to brief snatches of what interests them, in an otherwise overwhelmingly white oriented media.
Surely this is obvious? It's no bad thing - access is to all and for all, based on an individual's personal interest. It's not like what goes out on the Black channels is all about how Blacks should hate white people, or on the Asian channels how all Hindus should be militarising to retrieve land from Pakistan in Kashmir etc etc etc.
Come on, bit of lateral thinking mate. Stop being such a race obsessed protectionist white goon. Ignore racism - it's futile and ignorant in its basis; which is why it's so easy for any of us to be prone to it.
Let me leave you with this. Read Haile Selassie's 'WAR' speech, here... It's all about what we need to achieve, there's no bother in keep talking about it. Get on with it man.
http://www.rastaites.com/speeches/peace.html ... search on "That until the philosophy" to go direct to the most relevant tract.
Ras Tafar I
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I think that Lowing perhaps is not a racist. He's just confused. He's paranoid about black people calling him whitey, snowflake, milky, or else, or terrorists attempting to kill him. That's the paranoia that propaganda has installed. All in this thread must understand, and I refer to white, black and green people, one thing, there are tons of good white people and good black people, as there are tons of assholes in both races. You must take it that way, and ignore the racists from both sides. Ignoring them is the best you can do, coz if they don't have an answer it means they lost.lowing wrote:
Noo spearhead, accusing liberals of not wanting to do anything to protect the very freedoms that give them the rights and privileges that we all enjoy as Americans is a far cry from saying "Cameronpoe wants us all dead". I called you all hypocrites for not standing up to defend, but, to the best of my recollection, I never accused the liberals of "wanting us all dead". Although, now that ya mention it................Spearhead wrote:
You imply it in everything you post. You believe people either support the war or support the terrorists. And don't tell me something different, because almost every post you've made proves that point. You imply that in almost every post, than when someone points it out, you imply they have impaired judgment. It's all implications with you, so you can always fall back and say "Well, I didn't REALLY say that".lowing wrote:
LOL nope spearhead you are wrong as usual.....( whatever kind of response that is)
I really don't remember where I said Cameronpoe "wanted us all dead" or any variation of that sentiment. Perhaps you can show me. Then we will talk about impaired judgment.
Cameronpoe, do you recall me ever accusing you of wanting us all dead??
Quite frankly, most of this is a waste of time. The libs will never convince the neo cons, and vice versa. It's usually just a long chain of exchanging reasons until it turns into a flame war.
As far as this whole racism thing goes, the fact still remains that blacks are part of the lower classes of America, and they DO have some right to dislike some white people. Not all, but some. And there are plenty of blacks who don't like the black hostility towards whites, either. But the way some of you say it on these forums makes it sound as if blacks are taking over, and that you're victims of injustice.
Speaking of racism, this sentence here, is probably one of the most racist comments I have read on here.
Spearhead wrote..........>"As far as this whole racism thing goes, the fact still remains that blacks are part of the lower classes of America, and they DO have some right to dislike some white people."
A. Syndication really doesn't count. If I have a network and I choose to put fucking Soul Food on next to Friends it's my choice, but in it's original context, Friends was the flagship program of Must See TV that presented NYC of all places as all white. Moving to the next point.lowing wrote:
Oh was firends different from the Cosby show, Martin, A Different World, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Steve Harvy, Amen, Family Matters etc..........????????Lionbeat wrote:
GENIUS.Ikarti wrote:
If you're honestly questioning why there isn't White Entertainment Television, you must have missed Friends.
All of these shows aired on the same 3 networks as Friends. The author did not address TV shows, he addressed BLACK E.T. as opposed to there NOT being an openly FOR WHITES" network channel because to do so would be racist. I happen to agree. Nice try at diversion though.
B. Must See TV was devoid of any color.
If you really want another example, take a fucking look at Country Music Television.
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More of that I'M NOT RACIST BUT OMG LOOK WHAT THE BLACKS ARE DOING attitude. Noted.Dogfood Enforcer wrote:
...(im not an overly racist person, i just totally agree with that email and HAD to get it off my chest.lol)
Two harmless questions: Where do you live (Country / statewise) And what grade are you in?Ikarti wrote:
More of that I'M NOT RACIST BUT OMG LOOK WHAT THE BLACKS ARE DOING attitude. Noted.Dogfood Enforcer wrote:
...(im not an overly racist person, i just totally agree with that email and HAD to get it off my chest.lol)
You forget the typical quote of a racist: "I ain't racist, I know a black dude".Ikarti wrote:
More of that I'M NOT RACIST BUT OMG LOOK WHAT THE BLACKS ARE DOING attitude. Noted.Dogfood Enforcer wrote:
...(im not an overly racist person, i just totally agree with that email and HAD to get it off my chest.lol)
Oh yeah! and then you have I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HAPPENS TO BE BLACK! You know what the funny thing is? Aside from some comment about whites being the aggressors (which I don't think is really a major part of this anyway), no one has been "Well this one time I saw a white person do this." If you'd like I can run down a list of all the racist things I've seen white people do. The list is far longer than one moron claiming "IT'S BECAUSE I'M BLACK"sergeriver wrote:
You forget the typical quote of a racist: "I ain't racist, I know a black dude".Ikarti wrote:
More of that I'M NOT RACIST BUT OMG LOOK WHAT THE BLACKS ARE DOING attitude. Noted.Dogfood Enforcer wrote:
...(im not an overly racist person, i just totally agree with that email and HAD to get it off my chest.lol)
The difference here is that you attribute one person's actions to the entire group. Anyone want to tell me what that's called?
Well, that is what I said a few posts before basically.Ikarti wrote:
Oh yeah! and then you have I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HAPPENS TO BE BLACK! You know what the funny thing is? Aside from some comment about whites being the aggressors (which I don't think is really a major part of this anyway), no one has been "Well this one time I saw a white person do this." If you'd like I can run down a list of all the racist things I've seen white people do. The list is far longer than one moron claiming "IT'S BECAUSE I'M BLACK"sergeriver wrote:
You forget the typical quote of a racist: "I ain't racist, I know a black dude".Ikarti wrote:
More of that I'M NOT RACIST BUT OMG LOOK WHAT THE BLACKS ARE DOING attitude. Noted.
The difference here is that you attribute one person's actions to the entire group. Anyone want to tell me what that's called?
I know, but they need the same thing said several times for it to register.sergeriver wrote:
Well, that is what I said a few posts before basically.Ikarti wrote:
Oh yeah! and then you have I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HAPPENS TO BE BLACK! You know what the funny thing is? Aside from some comment about whites being the aggressors (which I don't think is really a major part of this anyway), no one has been "Well this one time I saw a white person do this." If you'd like I can run down a list of all the racist things I've seen white people do. The list is far longer than one moron claiming "IT'S BECAUSE I'M BLACK"sergeriver wrote:
You forget the typical quote of a racist: "I ain't racist, I know a black dude".
The difference here is that you attribute one person's actions to the entire group. Anyone want to tell me what that's called?
Lowing, if you want WET so much. GO MAKE IT. No one can stop you.lowing wrote:
Oh was firends different from the Cosby show, Martin, A Different World, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Steve Harvy, Amen, Family Matters etc..........????????Lionbeat wrote:
GENIUS.Ikarti wrote:
If you're honestly questioning why there isn't White Entertainment Television, you must have missed Friends.
All of these shows aired on the same 3 networks as Friends. The author did not address TV shows, he addressed BLACK E.T. as opposed to there NOT being an openly FOR WHITES" network channel because to do so would be racist. I happen to agree. Nice try at diversion though.
Besides, who wants to watch a channel for whites? Not only would the programming suck, just like BET, but it would feel weird.
Every show is based off a traditional conservative family from utah. Timmy frequently is forced to make tough decisions, like the episode where he staels a candy bar. The family is alsmot torn apart, but a last second intervention makes little Timmy see the err of his ways. 8,364 hail mary's later, the family is at the park enjoying some nice white food.jonsimon wrote:
Lowing, if you want WET so much. GO MAKE IT. No one can stop you.lowing wrote:
Oh was firends different from the Cosby show, Martin, A Different World, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Steve Harvy, Amen, Family Matters etc..........????????Lionbeat wrote:
GENIUS.
All of these shows aired on the same 3 networks as Friends. The author did not address TV shows, he addressed BLACK E.T. as opposed to there NOT being an openly FOR WHITES" network channel because to do so would be racist. I happen to agree. Nice try at diversion though.
Besides, who wants to watch a channel for whites? Not only would the programming suck, just like BET, but it would feel weird.
-Not quite as cool as Shaniquah having to choose wether or not to have her half paralyzed crack baby while dodging pucnhes from her abusive boyfriend (baby daddy #7) and get her GED, all while working part time as a stripper who fights crime in her off time.
Lowing, do you agree with positive discrimination to redress inequalities - i.e., in the interests of creating an egalitarian society? Having government prescribed quotas for particular positions, etc. to help women and certain races enjoy equal opporutnities with white men, until isuch time as there is no longer a meaningful imbalance? I don't agree with it totally myself but I think policies and attitudes must at least lean that way until we're absolved, as white men, for our supressive and exploitative behaviour in the past. As such I don't really bear a grudge against the United Negro College Fund, BET, etc.lowing wrote:
Most of us conservatives have been called a racist for our views. Then I got sent this email and so I thought I would post it and see the responses. I am not the writer of this email so don't shoot the messenger.
Does anyone have answers to these questions????
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me "Whiteboy," "Cracker," "Honkey," "Whitey," "Caveman" and that's OK.
But when I call you, nigger, Kike, Towelhead, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink you call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP. You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists. If we had white history month, we'd be racists. If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives, we'd be racists. If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships,you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US, yet if there were "White colleges" that would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.
I am proud. But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
I will agree with you that there is very much a double standard at play where 'white' people are asked to shy away, in the interests of political correctness, from asserting themselves and their cultural identity. It is regrettable. Namecalling is also unfortunate but racism exists in every society, all we can do is hope to minimise it. Generally only ignorant people are racist, people who aren't worth bothering about (unless of course they get violent).
Your comment: "You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.", is racist generalising trash and you should be ashamed of yourself. If you think that's what black culture is all about - robbing, carjacking, shooting and drugs then you sir ARE a racist and you have no right to complain about black-on-white racism.
"Why is it that only whites can be racists?" - that is pure bollocks: there are racists in every race and creed.
The problem, is that only whites can get in trouble for racist comments.CameronPoe wrote:
"Why is it that only whites can be racists?" - that is pure bollocks: there are racists in every race and creed.
OT: Blaming white people today for slavery is like blaming all germans alive today for the holocaust.
You are quick to say "not all germans are nazis" yet immediately sympathize with anyone who has a gripe against white americans. Somehow it's all the white mans fault nobody can get ahead in America. Why do immigrants keep flooding over here if we treat them so badly? How is it people from India can come over and get engineering jobs en masse, AND SPEAK ENGLISH BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
It's not racism, it's using people as scapegoats for your inability to support yourself and be a productive citizen.
Someones shortcomings are obviously directly related to the work they put in themselves but the fact of the matter is that some minorities are disadvantaged from the outset and must battle that before they can even contemplate competing on a par with Mr. Snowflake. Your German analogy is apt because Germans pay reparations to the relatives of holocaust victims and hence are absolving themselves of the crimes of their forefathers.Erkut.hv wrote:
The problem, is that only whites can get in trouble for racist comments.CameronPoe wrote:
"Why is it that only whites can be racists?" - that is pure bollocks: there are racists in every race and creed.
OT: Blaming white people today for slavery is like blaming all germans alive today for the holocaust.
You are quick to say "not all germans are nazis" yet immediately sympathize with anyone who has a gripe against white americans. Somehow it's all the white mans fault nobody can get ahead in America. Why do immigrants keep flooding over here if we treat them so badly? How is it people from India can come over and get engineering jobs en masse, AND SPEAK ENGLISH BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
It's not racism, it's using people as scapegoats for your inability to support yourself and be a productive citizen.
Point taken. Reperations over here would result in a civil war.CameronPoe wrote:
Someones shortcomings are obviously directly related to the work they put in themselves but the fact of the matter is that some minorities are disadvantaged from the outset and must battle that before they can even contemplate competing on a par with Mr. Snowflake. Your German analogy is apt because Germans pay reparations to the relatives of holocaust victims and hence are absolving themselves of the crimes of their forefathers.Erkut.hv wrote:
The problem, is that only whites can get in trouble for racist comments.CameronPoe wrote:
"Why is it that only whites can be racists?" - that is pure bollocks: there are racists in every race and creed.
OT: Blaming white people today for slavery is like blaming all germans alive today for the holocaust.
You are quick to say "not all germans are nazis" yet immediately sympathize with anyone who has a gripe against white americans. Somehow it's all the white mans fault nobody can get ahead in America. Why do immigrants keep flooding over here if we treat them so badly? How is it people from India can come over and get engineering jobs en masse, AND SPEAK ENGLISH BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
It's not racism, it's using people as scapegoats for your inability to support yourself and be a productive citizen.
Disadvantaged from the outset is a cop out, words that people such as Sharpton and Jackson use when justifying their existence.
If you can't make it in America by this point, odds are it's your fault.
Poe, being as you don't live here, I'll give you some leeway. You probably don't hear about as much of the sutpid shit that we do. Frivolous lawsuits, implied racism, etc... It grates on a man after a while.
"Hurrican katrina was a white man, he was sent by Republicans to destroy black people".
Obviously all I can do is comment on what I gather from the news and from my visits to the US. I'm just offering my opinions. There possibly is a little too much of the 'it's all whitey's fault', but given that I don't live there I obviously can't say for sure.Erkut.hv wrote:
Point taken. Reperations over here would result in a civil war.CameronPoe wrote:
Someones shortcomings are obviously directly related to the work they put in themselves but the fact of the matter is that some minorities are disadvantaged from the outset and must battle that before they can even contemplate competing on a par with Mr. Snowflake. Your German analogy is apt because Germans pay reparations to the relatives of holocaust victims and hence are absolving themselves of the crimes of their forefathers.Erkut.hv wrote:
The problem, is that only whites can get in trouble for racist comments.
OT: Blaming white people today for slavery is like blaming all germans alive today for the holocaust.
You are quick to say "not all germans are nazis" yet immediately sympathize with anyone who has a gripe against white americans. Somehow it's all the white mans fault nobody can get ahead in America. Why do immigrants keep flooding over here if we treat them so badly? How is it people from India can come over and get engineering jobs en masse, AND SPEAK ENGLISH BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
It's not racism, it's using people as scapegoats for your inability to support yourself and be a productive citizen.
Disadvantaged from the outset is a cop out, words that people such as Sharpton and Jackson use when justifying their existence.
If you can't make it in America by this point, odds are it's your fault.
Poe, being as you don't live here, I'll give you some leeway. You probably don't hear about as much of the sutpid shit that we do. Frivolous lawsuits, implied racism, etc... It grates on a man after a while.
"Hurrican katrina was a white man, he was sent by Republicans to destroy black people".
Yeah, some points I overemphasize for effect, but it really is a blame game over here. Everyone is a victim, in every facet too, not just racism.CameronPoe wrote:
Obviously all I can do is comment on what I gather from the news and from my visits to the US. I'm just offering my opinions. There possibly is a little too much of the 'it's all whitey's fault', but given that I don't live there I obviously can't say for sure.Erkut.hv wrote:
Point taken. Reperations over here would result in a civil war.CameronPoe wrote:
Someones shortcomings are obviously directly related to the work they put in themselves but the fact of the matter is that some minorities are disadvantaged from the outset and must battle that before they can even contemplate competing on a par with Mr. Snowflake. Your German analogy is apt because Germans pay reparations to the relatives of holocaust victims and hence are absolving themselves of the crimes of their forefathers.
Disadvantaged from the outset is a cop out, words that people such as Sharpton and Jackson use when justifying their existence.
If you can't make it in America by this point, odds are it's your fault.
Poe, being as you don't live here, I'll give you some leeway. You probably don't hear about as much of the sutpid shit that we do. Frivolous lawsuits, implied racism, etc... It grates on a man after a while.
"Hurrican katrina was a white man, he was sent by Republicans to destroy black people".
This TV argument is the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard.
I grew up watching the Cosbys. We've got Sisters, Martin, Girlfriends, the Bernie Mac show, the Steve Harvey show, et al., on UPN or Fox every night. Syndication or not, blacks represent about 12% of our population and I promise you they're more than 12% of the television shows.
Simply because Friends was POPULAR with people who identify with the characters, and there are more people who identify with the characters in Friends than with the characters in Martin, doesn't mean TV caters to one racial profile over another. They're in it for the money. I identified with Cosby, as did millions of other hard-working, non-jive talking, suburban folks, so we watched it. Nobody cared if he was black or green, he was like us. I don't identify with Shanaynay or Martin Lawrence's goofy little fat buddy, and I don't speak like they do, and so I don't watch that show.
My favorite character on TV is Warrick from CSI. Love Grissom too. Can't stand that skinny white girl though. It's not about your color, it's about identifying with someone.
And let's not kid ourselves, black/hispanic racism against whites is given a free pass. Whites who stand up for themselves are automatically condemned. What white person would have ANY job in the United States, much less a high profile TV job, if he'd said "I hate black people" the way Charles Barkley said "I hate white people"?
Hell, white people were fired for suggesting that slave owners bred stronger slaves and held back the smarter ones, which is the exact argument I've heard black people make for years.
AT this point, I don't care. It's just another example of how the guilt-ridden liberals are going to let this country go in the toilet, and use my tax dollars to do it.
Thomas Jefferson was right. Our 200 years are up and we need a revolution in this country.
I grew up watching the Cosbys. We've got Sisters, Martin, Girlfriends, the Bernie Mac show, the Steve Harvey show, et al., on UPN or Fox every night. Syndication or not, blacks represent about 12% of our population and I promise you they're more than 12% of the television shows.
Simply because Friends was POPULAR with people who identify with the characters, and there are more people who identify with the characters in Friends than with the characters in Martin, doesn't mean TV caters to one racial profile over another. They're in it for the money. I identified with Cosby, as did millions of other hard-working, non-jive talking, suburban folks, so we watched it. Nobody cared if he was black or green, he was like us. I don't identify with Shanaynay or Martin Lawrence's goofy little fat buddy, and I don't speak like they do, and so I don't watch that show.
My favorite character on TV is Warrick from CSI. Love Grissom too. Can't stand that skinny white girl though. It's not about your color, it's about identifying with someone.
And let's not kid ourselves, black/hispanic racism against whites is given a free pass. Whites who stand up for themselves are automatically condemned. What white person would have ANY job in the United States, much less a high profile TV job, if he'd said "I hate black people" the way Charles Barkley said "I hate white people"?
Hell, white people were fired for suggesting that slave owners bred stronger slaves and held back the smarter ones, which is the exact argument I've heard black people make for years.
AT this point, I don't care. It's just another example of how the guilt-ridden liberals are going to let this country go in the toilet, and use my tax dollars to do it.
Thomas Jefferson was right. Our 200 years are up and we need a revolution in this country.
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Alright , exhausting topic lol. I just finished reading it all. I took the time to read everyone's opinion attentively. I just have one thing to say. You make me all sad, having to open forums about this, the idea is pathetic. Usually I would not post, but I read alot of hate today and I think you should all take a momment, stop this, look inside yourselves, then look around. Alot of you's mentioned that we are all human, you are right, we are all part of this planet that we call home. Alot of you have also mentioned that its in our nature (humans) to be violent and prejudice towards something we dont like(racist). That is incorrect my friends, its a choice we make, now that I have told you all of this you can all make the choice, post many responses about how stupid my post was, or be a good man/woman and accept the fact that you know exactly what I'm saying, that is pretty much that we are all brothers and sisters one way or the other. Sooner or later we'll all be depending on each other for survival, we might not see that day come, but it will...
best wishes.
Reager
best wishes.
Reager
It IS in our nature to be prejudice towards thigns we don't know/like/understand. It's what kept us alive back in the day. You know, when you saw somehting scary looking in the bushes, and you got that feeling that you need to run, fast.Reager20 wrote:
Alright , exhausting topic lol. I just finished reading it all. I took the time to read everyone's opinion attentively. I just have one thing to say. You make me all sad, having to open forums about this, the idea is pathetic. Usually I would not post, but I read alot of hate today and I think you should all take a momment, stop this, look inside yourselves, then look around. Alot of you's mentioned that we are all human, you are right, we are all part of this planet that we call home. Alot of you have also mentioned that its in our nature (humans) to be violent and prejudice towards something we dont like(racist). That is incorrect my friends, its a choice we make, now that I have told you all of this you can all make the choice, post many responses about how stupid my post was, or be a good man/woman and accept the fact that you know exactly what I'm saying, that is pretty much that we are all brothers and sisters one way or the other. Sooner or later we'll all be depending on each other for survival, we might not see that day come, but it will...
best wishes.
Reager
If we weren't apprehensive like this, we'd be in sticky situations all the time. However that being said, it is in our power as well, being the intelligent (I use the term loosely of course) creatures that we are, to realize when this fear is misplaced such as with racism and stereotyping. It's part of our ability to do "rational thought".
I agree with CameronPoe. CameronPoe is racist and owes blacks for being a racist POS. I think that a black guy should take a bat to him for all the blacks he has enslaved and harmed with his raciest attitude. thanks to him there are a lot of blacks that hate all whites.
Last edited by Major_Spittle (2006-08-25 16:09:00)
You shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house
And if you got a glass jaw you should watch yo mouth
Cause I'll break yo face
-50 Cent.
And if you got a glass jaw you should watch yo mouth
Cause I'll break yo face
-50 Cent.