lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA
everyone calls me a racist and NO ONE answers why a white guy is a racist because he choses to live in a white area, and no one else is a racist when they chose to live in their own nieghborhoods?

PrimaCord, Spearhead, jonsimon?? Are you gunna FINALLY answer that for us or are you just going to continue with the insults in lieu of a real answer??
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6849

lowing wrote:

everyone calls me a racist and NO ONE answers why a white guy is a racist because he choses to live in a white area, and no one else is a racist when they chose to live in their own nieghborhoods?

PrimaCord, Spearhead, jonsimon?? Are you gunna FINALLY answer that for us or are you just going to continue with the insults in lieu of a real answer??
I don't think they're calling you a racist specifically because of the white/black/asian neighbourhoods issue. They're calling you a racist because many/all of the viewpoints that you are expressing would lead one to reasonably presume that you harbour some/many racist tendencies. As such they are concluding that you are a racist.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-31 03:38:29)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6983|Tampa Bay Florida

lowing wrote:

everyone calls me a racist and NO ONE answers why a white guy is a racist because he choses to live in a white area, and no one else is a racist when they chose to live in their own nieghborhoods?

PrimaCord, Spearhead, jonsimon?? Are you gunna FINALLY answer that for us or are you just going to continue with the insults in lieu of a real answer??
Dude, just get over it.  YOU'RE RACIST.  At every corner you compare color of skin, class, how black people are oppressing whites, who lives in people's neighborhoods.  The fact is, unracist people don't care, because they're not issues.  Only a person with racism on their minds actually has an argument here.  By the way you're describing America, it would be anarchy.  Sorry, it's not.  Blacks aren't oppressing whites, no matter what you say, nothing can change that.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

everyone calls me a racist and NO ONE answers why a white guy is a racist because he choses to live in a white area, and no one else is a racist when they chose to live in their own nieghborhoods?

PrimaCord, Spearhead, jonsimon?? Are you gunna FINALLY answer that for us or are you just going to continue with the insults in lieu of a real answer??
I don't think they're calling you a racist specifically because of the white/black/asian neighbourhoods issue. They're calling you a racist because many/all of the viewpoints that you are expressing would lead one to reasonably presume that you harbour some/many racist tendencies. As such they are concluding that you are a racist.
No Cameronpoe, the orginal post has yet to be answered by all those calling us racists. I am looking for an answer to it. The mere fact that they are calling me/us racist for bring it up suggests that the post is correct in the first place.  Why don't you answer it?
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|6946|pimelteror.de
stupid thread.... it was the white man, that enslaved and discriminated and colonized the coloured.. did you miss all history lessons?
after centuries of discrimination, you start whining about being called a white? boy go back to school and start to read and understand the history of racism....
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA

Spearhead wrote:

lowing wrote:

everyone calls me a racist and NO ONE answers why a white guy is a racist because he choses to live in a white area, and no one else is a racist when they chose to live in their own nieghborhoods?

PrimaCord, Spearhead, jonsimon?? Are you gunna FINALLY answer that for us or are you just going to continue with the insults in lieu of a real answer??
Dude, just get over it.  YOU'RE RACIST.  At every corner you compare color of skin, class, how black people are oppressing whites, who lives in people's neighborhoods.  The fact is, unracist people don't care, because they're not issues.  Only a person with racism on their minds actually has an argument here.  By the way you're describing America, it would be anarchy.  Sorry, it's not.  Blacks aren't oppressing whites, no matter what you say, nothing can change that.
THEN ANSWER THE QUESTION! LOL

I never said blacks were oppressing whites.

another side step, I guess we won't get a legit answer to it.

Last edited by lowing (2006-08-31 03:44:36)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

stupid thread.... it was the white man, that enslaved and discriminated and colonized the coloured.. did you miss all history lessons?
after centuries of discrimination, you start whining about being called a white? boy go back to school and start to read and understand the history of racism....
Uhhhhhh because whites were the only ones in history to enslave a people I suppose?? Maybe YOU need to read up on what the hell you are trying to prove as a point there slick.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6849

lowing wrote:

Why is it that only whites can be racists?
That is the sum total of your OP. The rest of the OP is the opinion of someone whose views you yourself have distanced yourself from in various posts. So the answer to your question is:

No, people of other ethnicities can be racist too. Is that all you wanted to hear?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Why is it that only whites can be racists?
That is the sum total of your OP. The rest of the OP is the opinion of someone whose views you yourself have distanced yourself from in various posts. So the answer to your question is:

No, people of other ethnicities can be racist too. Is that all you wanted to hear?
Cheap answer. YOu are hardly ever at a loss for words Cameronpoe so I know you can do better than that.

I am asking why the double standard, as an example, the white nieghborhood issue that has been addressed aboved.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6849

lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Why is it that only whites can be racists?
That is the sum total of your OP. The rest of the OP is the opinion of someone whose views you yourself have distanced yourself from in various posts. So the answer to your question is:

No, people of other ethnicities can be racist too. Is that all you wanted to hear?
Cheap answer. YOu are hardly ever at a loss for words Cameronpoe so I know you can do better than that.

I am asking why the double standard, as an example, the white nieghborhood issue that has been addressed aboved.
Well on the 'neighbourhoods' issue alone: it wouldn't bother me in the slightest who my neighbours were. I would be more concerned about the value of the property, the local crime levels, the quality of local amenities, the potential for the property to appreciate in value, etc. It wouldn't even cross my mind to check the ethnicity of those living nearby. All this talk surprises me given that you guys live in 'the cultural melting pot' that the USA advertises itself as and I live in the, until recently ethnically and culturally homogenous, Republic of Ireland.
imortal
Member
+240|6958|Austin, TX
Okay everyone, seperate corners and let tempers chill for a bit.  I believe the intent of the original posting was to ask if there was a couble standard in evaluating racism; one for how whites treat other races, and a seperate standard for how other races treat white people.

The best example I can give happened to a  white friend of mine.  She was waitressing at an Applebees, and I went in to eat in her section.  I sat down next a black couple that was finishing their meal.  When my friend came and asked if their was anything else she could do for them, the black woman said that they were done, but she was not going to give her a tip because she was white.  The black man looked apologetic, but said nothing.

Now, was this racism?  If the woman decided not to leave a tip soley because of the race of the waitress, then yes.  But how would this have been viewed if it was a white couple who refused to leave a tip for their waitress because she was black?  Or because she was asian or hispanic?

Wanting race to not matter does not make me racist.  Giving any sort of special treatment to ANY race, even if to correct 'wrongs' agaimnst that race in the distant past, is racism.  It is the favoring of one race over another.  I am reffering to the goverment there.  Private businesses can do what they want aboutt he issue.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6788

lowing wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

lowing wrote:


yeah, right...wait until you go buy your first house, you are going to check everything from your neighbors to your school district. there is also economics involved. For instance, if you are going to buy into a nieghborhood to live where the majority of the homes are rented, you will loose. You buy a home as an investment. The people that surround your house directly influences that investment. A cold hard FACT.
Yeah, but I know my parents never investigated to see if our neighbors were colored. And I never will either. Sorry lowing, we're just not as racist as you.
Be honest, did you live in a black nieghborhood?? I am guessing probably NOT!

Also, my parents never discussed it either, in front of me that is, but they moved to an all white subdivsion after the military.
Get over yourself lowing. We still don't know who our neighbors are outside of our block and my friends at school. And sorry, but our neighbors across the street were arabic, and we knew that, and guess what, we didn't care. Heck, I hung out with their kids almost every day. Maybe the fact that people end up in primarily white neighborhoods has something to do with the idea that there is a class difference in America. Perhaps people of color, in general, are not as well off. Perhaps they are partially justified in being racist against you, lowing.

Oh, and sorry us crackers just can't defend you and your racism.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6849

imortal wrote:

The best example I can give happened to a  white friend of mine.  She was waitressing at an Applebees, and I went in to eat in her section.  I sat down next a black couple that was finishing their meal.  When my friend came and asked if their was anything else she could do for them, the black woman said that they were done, but she was not going to give her a tip because she was white.  The black man looked apologetic, but said nothing.
Now, was this racism?  If the woman decided not to leave a tip soley because of the race of the waitress, then yes.  But how would this have been viewed if it was a white couple who refused to leave a tip for their waitress because she was black?  Or because she was asian or hispanic?
Your other arguments aside I would like to address the example of racism you gave. Is your example intended to show a double standard? Because I don't see any double standards there. Those people were racist, pure and simple. I'm sure you can find many examples of white people not tipping arabic, mexican or black people. It doesn't address what you were purporting to address. They're just examples of blatant non-institutionalised racism.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-31 06:20:00)

MacabrE|DooM
Member
+0|6751
Haha, ima make a post on this:

First off this ''White agresors'' is dumb. Ever heard of the saying ''2 wrongs don't make a right''? and the fact that your judging a select minority. Seriously Hitler supressed the Jews and killed millions of them. You don't see the Jews attacking Germans or what not.

Fact is its getting out of hand. Lets think back on the 40's. You had Apartheid imposed, yes by the White's but that was some whites not the whole damn white race. Okay so they surpressed Blacks up until Mandela's release in 92, as soon as he got out he imposed Affirmative Action. Bassically for the ones who don't know, this means that say you go to get a job and theres a Black person also there for the interview, he has the same qualifications as you and the same suit etc etc. So who will they give the job to? the Black person, thats what it means favouring one race over another and in this case its Blacks who are being favoured. Then the whites took off going to other countries etc.

Anyway that already shows that they are not solving the situation. The situation of equality is 0. There will always be racism, but the chances of equality are low. That email you have is true. It's bullshit really that every country is starting to favour the Arabs or Blacks over the Whites, hence the reason you have organizations such as the KKK and gangs such as the Skins. When you disrupt a society like that, that is what happens. In the UK its just as bad, all the Muslims are being favoured over the Whites. You call a Muslim a paki you get charged on racial abuse. If they call you a cracker then nothing happens. Then you have parties such as the Human Rights, run by a bunch of morons who will try defend all the Muslims over the Whites.

America has the same issue. How can Governments want a multi-cultural-multi-racial society when they do such things as they do now? Okay so I remember this video of this Black leader, he was talking saying racist things about whites etc, but he won't get taken off air or punnished. Same in the UK, you had Abu-Hamza, hes been detained now, but after how long, years. He only was detained after he was caught giving speaches on Terrorism. Also he was in the London Streets preaching to his followers ''Kill Jews'' ''Kill whites'' etc etc. He was allowed to do it though in public. If I went into the street and said things like that about the Black's or whatever. I'd be detained within 2 minutes? and charged etc.

Fact is im sick of the crap, also please tell me why 9 Asylum Seekers hijacked a plane with explosives and weapons and flew it over to the UK. They were all Arabs (link can be provided to news article) and why were all their charges dropped and they are now living in 200k housing homes especially built for Asylum Seekers after they claimed they were fleeing their country.

Absolute bullshit, the more and more the Government in the UK favours the Arabs and what not the more and more the other races become stressed. Since it comes out of taxes to pay for their free housing. Wheres my free house? Society doesn't owe me anything and it shouldn't owe them nothing. Might be worthwhile to say this, but with White's having less and less kids that or none at all, and Arabs having 5 or 6. Think about it, in 20 years or something most of the country will be Arabs, you might as well call it Britistan.
imortal
Member
+240|6958|Austin, TX

CameronPoe wrote:

imortal wrote:

The best example I can give happened to a  white friend of mine.  She was waitressing at an Applebees, and I went in to eat in her section.  I sat down next a black couple that was finishing their meal.  When my friend came and asked if their was anything else she could do for them, the black woman said that they were done, but she was not going to give her a tip because she was white.  The black man looked apologetic, but said nothing.
Now, was this racism?  If the woman decided not to leave a tip soley because of the race of the waitress, then yes.  But how would this have been viewed if it was a white couple who refused to leave a tip for their waitress because she was black?  Or because she was asian or hispanic?
Your other arguments aside I would like to address the example of racism you gave. Is your example intended to show a double standard? Because I don't see any double standards there. Those people were racist, pure and simple. I'm sure you can find many examples of white people not tipping arabic, mexican or black people. It doesn't address what you were purporting to address. They're just examples of blatant non-institutionalised racism.
I am glad you agree that the incident I described was racism.  I agree that it did not properly demonstrate a double standard.  I just wanted it clear that there are racists in every culture, toward any and every other culture.  It just seems to me that if caucasions, whites, are the target of the racism, it seems that it is somehow justified by the public or the press.  I am simply trying to emphasize that racism is racism, no matter who the instigator is or who the target is.  It is never ok. 

We start talking prejudice and cultures though, and we will have some arguments.  And no, culture and race are not the same thing.

One last.  that incident actually did happen to my friend, and sent her tearing off for the kitchen in tears from some of the things that woman said.  ***Edit:  okay, I will give the guy with her a break though.  He was on a date, and felt bad because he obviously did not feel the same way.  When his date got up and left, he slipped a 10 dollar bill under his plate.  So he gets props for that.  I hope that guy got laid and never called that woman back, though.***

Last edited by imortal (2006-08-31 09:50:18)

kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6843|Southeastern USA
I wonder what kr@cker thinks?


is it true that name calling in the UK is an offense that gets you jail time?


the perfect illustration of this was the birth of the term "reverse racism" in the 90's or thereabout, implying that only white people could be truly racist, I just play it safe and hate everyone, even white people, you're all dumbasses until proven innocent
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6843|Southeastern USA

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

stupid thread.... it was the white man, that enslaved and discriminated and colonized the coloured.. did you miss all history lessons?
after centuries of discrimination, you start whining about being called a white? boy go back to school and start to read and understand the history of racism....
why don't you take your own advice and learn that there were thousands of years of black on black and asian on asian slavery long before the first dutch ships ever showed up on the shores of africa? Who is it that's still to this day buying and selling each other? Who do you think it was that sold the africans to the europeans in the first place? It was their rival tribesman.
Jusster
Pimpin aint Easy
+11|6770|H-Town

lowing wrote:

everyone calls me a racist and NO ONE answers why a white guy is a racist because he choses to live in a white area, and no one else is a racist when they chose to live in their own nieghborhoods?

PrimaCord, Spearhead, jonsimon?? Are you gunna FINALLY answer that for us or are you just going to continue with the insults in lieu of a real answer??
It is your "US" vs. "Them" philosophy that makes just about all your statements seem racist

To answer your question...........

If a "white", "black", "yellow", or "brown" person decides to live in a particular area based on race...........then the average person with reasonable intelligence would consider that person to be a racist. 

Basically your question is false.  Its not "only the white guy" reasonable people consider racist if they choose to separate themselves based on race.

Now based on culture or class would be an entirely different circumstances all together.

Hope this helps you a bit


Jusster
Jusster
Pimpin aint Easy
+11|6770|H-Town

kr@cker wrote:

I wonder what kr@cker thinks?


I just play it safe and hate everyone, even white people, you're all dumbasses until proven innocent
What a great outlook towards life...........I almost feel sorry for you lmao


Jusster
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6918|Home of the Escalade Herds

lowing wrote:

Obviously he didn't have t ogive you that advice. You chose an all white neighborhood alll by yourself. But I am sure it was a coincidence.
Do you feel so bad that you are one of the only racists here, do you want company that bad?

Sorry, can't help you loser.

Keep reaching.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA

Jusster wrote:

lowing wrote:

everyone calls me a racist and NO ONE answers why a white guy is a racist because he choses to live in a white area, and no one else is a racist when they chose to live in their own nieghborhoods?

PrimaCord, Spearhead, jonsimon?? Are you gunna FINALLY answer that for us or are you just going to continue with the insults in lieu of a real answer??
It is your "US" vs. "Them" philosophy that makes just about all your statements seem racist

To answer your question...........

If a "white", "black", "yellow", or "brown" person decides to live in a particular area based on race...........then the average person with reasonable intelligence would consider that person to be a racist. 

Basically your question is false.  Its not "only the white guy" reasonable people consider racist if they choose to separate themselves based on race.

Now based on culture or class would be an entirely different circumstances all together.

Hope this helps you a bit


Jusster
It seems society itself excuses other races that form their own exclusive communities in the US. But as this thread proves, if I suggest it for whites, I am a racist, and there was no shortage of people calling me that. Point proven.

Last edited by lowing (2006-08-31 16:44:14)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA

jonsimon wrote:

lowing wrote:

jonsimon wrote:


Yeah, but I know my parents never investigated to see if our neighbors were colored. And I never will either. Sorry lowing, we're just not as racist as you.
Be honest, did you live in a black nieghborhood?? I am guessing probably NOT!

Also, my parents never discussed it either, in front of me that is, but they moved to an all white subdivsion after the military.
Get over yourself lowing. We still don't know who our neighbors are outside of our block and my friends at school. And sorry, but our neighbors across the street were arabic, and we knew that, and guess what, we didn't care. Heck, I hung out with their kids almost every day. Maybe the fact that people end up in primarily white neighborhoods has something to do with the idea that there is a class difference in America. Perhaps people of color, in general, are not as well off. Perhaps they are partially justified in being racist against you, lowing.

Oh, and sorry us crackers just can't defend you and your racism.
Wasn't looking for a defense, I AM looking for an answer.

So the black community is "justifed" for being racist against whites, and that is ok, but for me to have anything less than positive response toward that, makes me a racist.. Got it now.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7051|Argentina
Nobody is justified for being a racist, or at least shouldn't be.  But if you think a black person is being racist with you do you really have to respond, can't you be better than the racist, despite his color?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA

PRiMACORD wrote:

lowing wrote:

Obviously he didn't have t ogive you that advice. You chose an all white neighborhood alll by yourself. But I am sure it was a coincidence.
Do you feel so bad that you are one of the only racists here, do you want company that bad?

Sorry, can't help you loser.

Keep reaching.
LOL ok, and you keep ignoring the question.

The fact that you call me a racist because I live in an all white community, WHILE you live in a all white community is laughable. Along with liar, lets tack on hypocrite as well.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6945|USA

sergeriver wrote:

Nobody is justified for being a racist, or at least shouldn't be.  But if you think a black person is being racist with you do you really have to respond, can't you be better than the racist, despite his color?
LOL, I never posted a story where I personally was confronted with reverse racism. I asked some very simple questions regarding the double standard, all of which is pointed out in the orginal post, and for the past 12 or 13 pages I have been called nothing but a racist. A fact which simply reinforces the position of the orginal post. Ironic isn't it??


The best part is I got Primacord trying to enforce his position that I am a racist because I moved to a white community. He did as well, but he didn't notice that. He just moved in and it turned out that it was an all white community. "Pull my other leg and it plays jingle bells"

Last edited by lowing (2006-08-31 16:53:19)

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