BF2S Forums 1.4 A no medic option ;)

Knight`UK wrote:

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

fierce wrote:

Please Mj.Blindfisch start on page one and count your insults!

I didn't count expressions like "pussy",which nowadays is equivalent to "coward" and stuff like "pussy-heal-revive-limbo".I think that's adequate for the seriousness and importance of debating the content of a video-game.
But it seems that some take some things a way too serious,don't get a heartattack because I called your favorite pointwhoring class which overpowered weapon gives you a secure feeling a "pussy"!

So,I'm guilty of one "stupid retard" after this well-mannered and polite KnightUK called me a "cunt" and the things I said about you two guys(dumb like wet toast),Herr Doktor.
Mal so nebenbei,du hast mich in deinem ersten Post als "tard" bezeichnet(sag das mal zu einem in England) und regst dich hier auf und machst auf Professor?Pffff....

If you got problems with the word "pussy" then replace it with "cowardly player who jump and runs for cover to heal himself with way overpowered gun for a teamwork class".

That's enough about insults from now on in this thread,if you guys really have to insult me do it in private messages and stick to the kit change ideas.

Read your post again and then think "oh shit i did start with the insults" and maybe i am wrong .I wouldnt have called you a "dumb cunt" if you didnt start with the "retard and pussy" insults right away in your posts.But then again you are arrogant and presume everyone apart from you is wrong .

So no i wont pm you and insult you there i will do it here you self righteous pompous idiot admit your wrong for a change and i MIGHT give you a break for a while .Until then the more childish you are i will match it .

LOL,Knight'UK just pwned himself with this post.

Anyone else thinks that he's acting a littlebit childish?
"No,you started!You started!I'm gonna keep insulting you now,meh!Say you are wrong or I'll scream bad words all day!I want my damn happy-meal!"

Ok,ok,let's be friendly now,let's say "I was wrong" over the last posts and I've explained a lot of things in my last post(like the expression"pussy"),you think you could stick to the kit change ideas and then either reply nothing or something "smart"?

Knight`UK wrote:

Calling me childish you thats about right ,nothing in your post about medics would do anything to make the game fairer or better because if you remember its not just about public playing its also about offical/scrims .

Have you ever played in a scrim/offical league/ladder/cup game ??

If you have you wouldnt have posted what you said unless you make all the changes you said server sided only .

Restricting medics would kill the clan only games because a team needs a decent medic to help them get the job done and none of your points would help .

So i suggest you think again and post again and next time wihtout the insults and remember the game is not only about stats but teamwork and also not just public play but unranked also .

I played TacticalOps in a clan in some league in Germany a few years ago,there were no medics,so it's probably different.

But I'm not really fond of Battlefield as a game for clan or league matches,unless there were 32 versus 32 player leagues.
BF2 needs the chaos of all different vehicles and classes working together and personally I think that the spirit of the Battlefield series is not in a 8vs8 match (that's not an army,that's just a few people).

Let's make them server-sided,ok,but EA has official rules for ranked servers.
That's where you get the points,that's where the chaos is and where you have lots of players of all ranks,that is where the changes should be applied and not be server sided(you play league on unranked servers,right?).

Some of my changes could really enhance the gameplay for all,you know how it is with nerfs,you can't make everybody happy and these are just ideas,some brainstorming with others here would be nice.

And what about the rifle change?
Assault US and Medic US:Both M16(this works with the others just as good),one has M203,one has grenades(to me both equal),assault has body armour and the mighty smokegrenade/flashbang,medic has 3(unlimited)health packs + defib.

Is that balanced?

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Anyone else thinks that he's acting a littlebit childish?

No, that's you.

Last edited by The_Jester (2006-08-18 11:30:57)

If you read this.. Well, I dunno you have too much time on your hands....

1. Everyone is generalising, a sniper sees a few medics on a karkand server owning it up and gets jealous because his puny bolt-action sniper rifle won't suffice close up [apart from if you are a select few [i won't name names]].

2. Medics see a sniper owning dragon/wake/sharqi/mash/fushe etc they get jealous and say "Why the fuck can't my rifle shoot over that distance" so go and complain to EA and then they aren't careful enough so step on a claymore and again go crying to EA.. Yes, the medic's gun's are waaaaaaaaaaay over powered... No, the sniper rifles are not overpowered they are perfect and whoever said "You have a fricking 50 cal!1!1!!1!!11!!!" it's resemblance to a RL 50 cal is at the bare minimum, how many guns do you know that won't pierce through glass?? Yet, there's only one in this game..

3. If you think sniper's hide come and play karkand with me... end of.

4. Somebody said "sniper's are banned in league matches or w/e" ha ha, you have a good sniper on your team let me tell you now that you have already won.

5. If I see one more person complaining about claymore's I think I might commit suicide.. You have already had them limited to 2 and yes, fair enough they should be destroyable by a nade but complaining again!?!?! Come on!!

6. The only solution in my eyes is to exactly what blindfisch said and limit the heal bags/shock paddles etc, if you have any other ideas here post them constructfully and dont be someone who just posts a load of bull.

This debate could rage forever.  The thing is.. Both kits get generalise and this is wrong.  You put me the best CQC sniper [no, not nyte because he isn't] in a map against the best medic limited to simply guns and no use of any other equipment the fact is that it would turn out pretty even.

I'm not getting involved in any flame parties so if you feel like insulting me please do it the proper way via PM or sexual abuse/harrassment and not in this thread.

/// EntertaineR

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Knight`UK wrote:

Calling me childish you thats about right ,nothing in your post about medics would do anything to make the game fairer or better because if you remember its not just about public playing its also about offical/scrims .

Have you ever played in a scrim/offical league/ladder/cup game ??

If you have you wouldnt have posted what you said unless you make all the changes you said server sided only .

Restricting medics would kill the clan only games because a team needs a decent medic to help them get the job done and none of your points would help .

So i suggest you think again and post again and next time wihtout the insults and remember the game is not only about stats but teamwork and also not just public play but unranked also .

I played TacticalOps in a clan in some league in Germany a few years ago,there were no medics,so it's probably different.

But I'm not really fond of Battlefield as a game for clan or league matches,unless there were 32 versus 32 player leagues.
BF2 needs the chaos of all different vehicles and classes working together and personally I think that the spirit of the Battlefield series is not in a 8vs8 match (that's not an army,that's just a few people).

Let's make them server-sided,ok,but EA has official rules for ranked servers.
That's where you get the points,that's where the chaos is and where you have lots of players of all ranks,that is where the changes should be applied and not be server sided(you play league on unranked servers,right?).

Some of my changes could really enhance the gameplay for all,you know how it is with nerfs,you can't make everybody happy and these are just ideas,some brainstorming with others here would be nice.

And what about the rifle change?
Assault US and Medic US:Both M16(this works with the others just as good),one has M203,one has grenades(to me both equal),assault has body armour and the mighty smokegrenade/flashbang,medic has 3(unlimited)health packs + defib.

Is that balanced?

Its just not about 8 v 8 clan matches there are larger offical sized matches out there changing the medic role in unranked matches would seriously fook the game up .

Imagine 3 of your guys down and as everyone knows you have a limited time to reach them and with your suggestions 2 of those would have no choice but to respawn and not have chanced to be revived.

One of those is the SL and he has to spawn at a point and not as far up the map as he wanted chances are it could fuck the whole round at that one point in the game .

I really dont play the game for points if i did i would be on it for hours on end being a point whore ,i play the game ranked and unranked for the teamwork aspect and for my and others ablitiy to help players on the team.

The game has been nerfed enough already it doesnt need anymore changes ,every class in the game if played and used properly can get the points/kills just as easy as others .

sgt_rambo35 wrote:

This is just stupid, if you go to war are you gonna strike a deal with the enemy no snipers , no medis , no tanks , no gaymores , stand still and let us shoot you ,  no nades, ....?

No.. it's decided by who has the biggest bombs

you ever think of jumping in tank and blowing thrm up?

CosmoKramer wrote:

you ever think of jumping in tank and blowing thrm up?

No, I don't have that kind of intellectual and I'd rather own them on their own territory it winds them up more.

SGT_Squirtle wrote:

I'm actually agreeing with this argument about the medic being overpowered...

I love to play Engineer but why don't I have a toolbox I can throw on the ground that will instantly heal a vehicle? No, I have to move around with a wrench in hand to heal up the vehicles.

Heres a suggestion, change the medpak to a syringe and a bandage and then the medic has to actually work on someone like an engineer to heal them... and the defibralator should just bring them back to life with 1 bar of health not completely healed...

And maybe give Engineers something like that to bring back destroyed vehicles

just my two cents

I really like that idea +1

sgt_rambo35 wrote:

i like the paddles, im a medic whore

I'm a sniper whore.. I should own you sometime.

sgt_rambo35 wrote:

not if i bunny hop like the pussy that i am hehe and run around the corner and heal myself

*points at self*

EntertaineR_06 wrote:

sgt_rambo35 wrote:

i like the paddles, im a medic whore

I'm a sniper whore.. I should own you sometime.

+1 for cockyness!

What about the idea of limiting the shock paddles?
Recharge battery with ammo bag or supply crate after x revives/paddle kills and not every injured person is revivable(like headshot,knifekill,etc.).
That would for example remove knife-revive-padding completely or make the medic more dependant on other classes like support.

Last edited by Mj.Blindfisch (2006-08-18 13:14:11)