cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
When Freedom is threatened it wouldn't be from a government who started to crack down on civil liberties because of Fear.

Nope it's threatened by third world countries that have so much power by killing them self to take out small groups of civilians. These are the people who will be able to walk into Washington D.C. or what ever your capital is and just take over the world and make us all slaves. Of a matter of fact I think there's a tribe of Africans who have never even seen a gun before, but the leader said "click, click, zing, bong" which translated means we will throw our spears at anyone who doesn't like our religion. I think that if we let this South African tribe go on there will be a serious threat on our ability to educate(in the ways of Intellegent Design, the way God intended) our children.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
Well the main point of this thread is that third world countries don't threaten our Freedoms at all. No how and no why unless we let them get the better of us.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,979|6875|949

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Well the main point of this thread is that third world countries don't threaten our Freedoms at all. No how and no why unless we let them get the better of us.
What is "the better of us?"  And how would "we" let them?
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6978|California

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Well the main point of this thread is that third world countries don't threaten our Freedoms at all. No how and no why unless we let them get the better of us.
What is "the better of us?"  And how would "we" let them?
Yeah, what do you mean by "you people"? You's a racist.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
Well the better of us, means starts getting into our heads and making us afraid of our own shadows. If this starts happening we will start seeing lots of laws passed removing our "freedoms".
herrr_smity
Member
+156|6870|space command ur anus
i think its funny how American are afraid that radical Muslims, some how are going to take their freedom and turn the world into a Muslim fascist world.
now the Muslim extremist ARE a minority, THEY are not listening on your phone calls or going thru your mail, like bush is doing.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France
Well, I'm not worried about muslims taking over, I'm just worried about my plane blowing up and killing my family.

But I guess that's okay with you...
herrr_smity
Member
+156|6870|space command ur anus

Pug wrote:

Well, I'm not worried about muslims taking over, I'm just worried about my plane blowing up and killing my family.

But I guess that's okay with you...
if i was American i would be much more afraid of my fellow countryman.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,979|6875|949

Pug wrote:

Well, I'm not worried about muslims taking over, I'm just worried about my plane blowing up and killing my family.

But I guess that's okay with you...
Are you honestly afraid of a plane you are in blowing up?  So would beefed up airport security, to the point where nothing could possibly get by, be enough?  Or do we need other things too?  Because the blowing up of planes could be completely stopped.
Colfax
PR Only
+70|6887|United States - Illinois

herrr_smity wrote:

Pug wrote:

Well, I'm not worried about muslims taking over, I'm just worried about my plane blowing up and killing my family.

But I guess that's okay with you...
if i was American i would be much more afraid of my fellow countryman.
I wouldn't.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France
Dear Sir:

I'm sorry your family was killed by terrorists.  We were dealing with our inner city crime problem.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Are you honestly afraid of a plane you are in blowing up?  So would beefed up airport security, to the point where nothing could possibly get by, be enough?  Or do we need other things too?  Because the blowing up of planes could be completely stopped.
I've canceled my vacation to England next month because of the incident last week.  Mostly because it's not wise to be an American in Europe right now.  I'm flying to Dallas in two weeks...so, to answer your question...no.

2nd - the point of my post was in response to the incorrect assumption that we are scared of muslims "taking over"....it's because we are sick of terrorists killing people.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ

Pug wrote:

Well, I'm not worried about muslims taking over, I'm just worried about my plane blowing up and killing my family.

But I guess that's okay with you...
Yes because all planes that you get in, are in Iraq right now?? I'm not sure of where you're going with this. Also you have more of a chance of you and your family getting into danger from the Inner City crime problem then a plane blowing up.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|6870|space command ur anus

Pug wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Are you honestly afraid of a plane you are in blowing up?  So would beefed up airport security, to the point where nothing could possibly get by, be enough?  Or do we need other things too?  Because the blowing up of planes could be completely stopped.
I've canceled my vacation to England next month because of the incident last week.  Mostly because it's not wise to be an American in Europe right now.  I'm flying to Dallas in two weeks...so, to answer your question...no.

2nd - the point of my post was in response to the incorrect assumption that we are scared of muslims "taking over"....it's because we are sick of terrorists killing people.
ha ha not wise, why not
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
Because terrorist killing people have accounted for more deaths then car accidents this year? We really need to start a war against Japan/Germany and all the other places we get cars from because they account for more deaths then terrorism.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France
MMMMkay - too much sugar for you today?
jord
Member
+2,382|6921|The North, beyond the wall.
Whilst were on the note of pretty meaningless statistics.

Did you know there were more vending machine related accidents last year than there were shark attacks?
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
I still don't like giving up any of our "freedoms" for safety or protection purposes.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France
Sure, neither do I.  I was responding to Smitty - "Americans actually believe that Muslims are taking over the world.  I think that's funny".  Or something like that...
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
Jord vending machines are number 40 on "The things America is going to go to War With because of National Security" while sharks are at 80. One day I will compose the complete list..
M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|6974|Peoria, Illinois
Third world countries/terrorists directly threaten our freedom via hijacking our planes and running them into  skyscapers. Sure there are criminals right here on the streets and killers on the loose, but name the last group of 19+ Americans that killed over 2500 Americans on one day. Name the last American that attempted to mass-murder hundreds of American civilians like that. And remember that Timothy Mcviegh targetted the government, not civilians. If you don't think that 2500 dead Americans in a couple of hours is significant enough to send our military around the world to chase down their organization and kill them, then please provide us with a number that will determine the need to do so.

Third world countries/terrorists threaten our civil liberties in an indirect manner. They bring bombs on planes *poof* we now search each bag for bombs... one less civil liberty to enjoy.
jord
Member
+2,382|6921|The North, beyond the wall.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

One day I will compose the complete list..
I'd like that,could be intersting.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,979|6875|949

Pug wrote:

I've canceled my vacation to England next month because of the incident last week.  Mostly because it's not wise to be an American in Europe right now.  I'm flying to Dallas in two weeks...so, to answer your question...no.

2nd - the point of my post was in response to the incorrect assumption that we are scared of muslims "taking over"....it's because we are sick of terrorists killing people.
Why is it not wise to be an American in Europe?

As for the second point, I agree.
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6868|Home of the Escalade Herds

Pug wrote:

Well, I'm not worried about muslims taking over, I'm just worried about my plane blowing up and killing my family.

But I guess that's okay with you...
Haha, you can't be serious.

Here is an interesting article on the matter i just googled:

http://www.anxietyandstress.com/sys-tmp … aretheodds

"What are the odds of dying on our next flight or next trip to a shopping mall? There are more than 40,000 malls in this country, and each is open about 75 hours per week. If a person shopped for two hours each week and terrorists were able to destroy one mall per week, the odds of being at the wrong place at the wrong time would be approximately 1.5 million to 1. If terrorists destroyed one mall each month, the odds would climb to one in 6 million. This assumes the total destruction of the entire mall; if that unlikely event didn't occur, the odds would become even more favorable.

In another hypothetical but horrible scenario, let us assume that each week one commercial aircraft were hijacked and crashed. What are the odds that a person who goes on one trip per month would be in that plane? There are currently about 18,000 commercial flights a day, and if that person's trip has four flights associated with it, the odds against that person's being on a crashed plane are about 135,000 to 1. If there were only one hijacked plane per month, the odds would be about 540,000 to 1."

So yeah, you are more likely to get struck by lightning, die in a flood, ect.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6785|Texas - Bigger than France

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Pug wrote:

I've canceled my vacation to England next month because of the incident last week.  Mostly because it's not wise to be an American in Europe right now.  I'm flying to Dallas in two weeks...so, to answer your question...no.

2nd - the point of my post was in response to the incorrect assumption that we are scared of muslims "taking over"....it's because we are sick of terrorists killing people.
Why is it not wise to be an American in Europe?

As for the second point, I agree.
Ummm...heightened threat levels?

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