Good question since your from NJ you probably havent seen Mexico in person but I live right along the boarder almost and it is bad. You go down there and walk along the streets and all of these guys start coming up to you asking you if you want drugs or hookers or waht not. The streets are trashed there basicaly dirt roads with a little concrete here and there and driving is a kinda "try at your own risk" deal. no one obeys the traffic laws if there are any so you have to look out for any one in a car because you are nothing more than a speed bump to them. If you drive down there you have to purchase seperate insurance just for Mexico because you are most likely going to get in a fender bender or two. I also had a friend that went down there and drove, and when he came back to his car some ass had broken all the window out of it stole anything of value and shit and pissed all over the inside, no joke. I was in a shop one time and the owner of the shop had a small dog with him, we start walking around and I look over and the shop owner puts his dog on a stack of blankets that were for sale and the dog pisses all over them. I looked right at him and he just smiled at me and went back to doing what he was doing. If you are caught down there at dark you have to be in a large group or you will most likly be robbed mugged and if you are a female possible raped. I had some jackass try to traid me my girlfriend for a carton of cigarets and 20 bucks once. It is kind of like going to the swap meet or flee market. Sorry for the length of this post, I was just trying to paint a picture. don't get me wrong there are parts that are realy nice but they are all far south and again they are not that nice. Hope this helps. Ethercpt.fass1 wrote:
And what's wrong with Mexico, why do they all want in here? I really don't know so I'm asking.
Is that an Indian joke? j/kjord wrote:
Allright Browny mate.King_County_Downy wrote:
I just didn't want to quote that whole article he wrote.jord wrote:
I get the feeling something fucked up.
Say,you don't mind me calling you King_Browny do ya?
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
This is what I don't understand. There's this big fucken cotroversy over Mexican people coming to the U.S.A, yet the U.S.A has SPANISH BILLBOARDS, TACO BELL, DEL TACO, BILINGUAL CLASSES IN SCHOOL & MY FAVORTITE; CINCO DE MAYO. I really don't get it. Talk about ignorance.
Downy... You forgot to write "Illegal" in the topic name. Woulda saved you a little trouble.
Immigrants are great for a country in many cases (except in the case of the UK, to many people there already...).
Illegal immigrants on the other hand should be shipped home as they have no right to be there.
EDIT
Greens (or how ever you spell it...) the controversy surrounds illegal immigrants. I believe that Downy would have no problem with them at all if they were "paying tenants" in the fictitious house he invented. Who had a lease taken out on one of the rooms.
Immigrants are great for a country in many cases (except in the case of the UK, to many people there already...).
Illegal immigrants on the other hand should be shipped home as they have no right to be there.
EDIT
Greens (or how ever you spell it...) the controversy surrounds illegal immigrants. I believe that Downy would have no problem with them at all if they were "paying tenants" in the fictitious house he invented. Who had a lease taken out on one of the rooms.
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Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
DAMN good idea! Wish the Government thought like you.Dersmikner wrote:
1. The first thing you see when you cross the border from Acuna into Del Rio is a sign over a small building that says "have your baby in this clinic, $250 cash, and your baby will be a citizen. Mother and baby qualify for federal assistance."
Nice.
Being born here to a non-citizen should not make you a citizen.
2. I am ALL FOR having every single hard-working Mexican who wants to get out of Mexico. Every one of them. If someone wants to come and work and pay taxes, bring em on.
HOWEVER, I have a few rules:
- You must speak English. Having to redo everything in Spanish and having to pay teachers to be bilingual and having to make signs and government documents and all that shit in Spanish costs a frigging fortune and it's fucking weak. Learn the goddamned language in which the Constitution was written. Having to coddle kids in school becuase their English sucks slows down the rest of the kids. I hate having to press one for English. Where the fuck do I live, San Salvador? Bullshit. You want to live here, spend two years learning the language first.
- Have a job waiting for you. Send advance letters - looking for work - , join a "work in America" program before getting here (I'm sure there would be hundreds sponsored by employers looking for cheap labor), or whatever, but don't expect to get here and do non-taxable yardwork or just loaf around til you can find a job. No job, no Visa. Wait, unless you are enrolled in school, at OUT OF STATE tuition levels like everyone else. If oy ucna come here and pay your way through school, I'm for that too...
- No criminal history. If you sold drugs, or raped a 15 year old, or anything more than speeding, in your former country forget it. We don't need that.
- Take a citizenship test with a certain time frame, or go home.
Other than that, the folks who want to work, who learn english, and who are willing to become Americans, I'm all for. That's just taking the most motivated folks from somewhere else and that can't be bad. Anyone who wants it badly enough to learn the language and study for a citizenship test is clearly going to add to our society, not subtract from it.
The fuckers who want to sneak across, get Medicaid for themselves and their kids, vote without being citizens, get paid in cash, protest when we try to make English the official language, sing the National Frigging Anthem in Spanish, and send their money home can kiss my butt. And I don't care what country they're from...
Do it the right way and I'm for taking all-comers. That's what made this country. Trying to turn San Antonio and Los Angeles into Mexico-North by sneaking in and out-breeding us is uncalled for.
Yes, that's what I meant and should've put in the title. You are correct sir.Flecco wrote:
Downy... You forgot to write "Illegal" in the topic name. Woulda saved you a little trouble.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Lol, now I wonder why Ecko got so pissed off?King_County_Downy wrote:
Yes, that's what I meant and should've put in the title. You are correct sir.Flecco wrote:
Downy... You forgot to write "Illegal" in the topic name. Woulda saved you a little trouble.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
DO NOT FUCKING FORGET IT IS NOT YOUR HOUSE.
DO NOT FUCKING FORGET YOU ARE THE IMMIGRANT.
I think I got the message through /sarcasm
DO NOT FUCKING FORGET YOU ARE THE IMMIGRANT.
I think I got the message through /sarcasm
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I would say that, since my parents paid their fees, waited their turn, then paid taxes for fifty years, that yes, it is my house and, no, I am not an immigrant, having been born here.alpinestar wrote:
DO NOT FUCKING FORGET IT IS NOT YOUR HOUSE.
DO NOT FUCKING FORGET YOU ARE THE IMMIGRANT.
This forum is about ILLEGAL immigrants, not immigration in general. I don't care if they make some contribution by doing menial labour, they have surrendered their rights by breaking the law.
My friend weather you like it or not immigrant blood flows through your vains.
House is indded yours but by saying 'get the fuck out of my country" you're beeing an egoist and/or a very simpleminded person .
House is indded yours but by saying 'get the fuck out of my country" you're beeing an egoist and/or a very simpleminded person .
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The topic here wasn't meant to be about immigration in the legal form. I really should've named it "illegal immigration". I hoped the body of the message would've spoke for itself. I do have immigrant blood and American Indian in my blood.
I'm mostly Irish but I also have Cherokee and Iroquois Indian in me. My family moved here during the potato famine and have fought in every war America has been in. I'm actually related to General Lee (of the confederate army). Long story...g g g g-ma ran off with the stable boy and whammo, big news back then. Did you all know the Iroquois Indians discovered maple syrup? Yep, it's true. Damn. Off course here...my point was, or is, that America has a very fucked up history from the start but the laws about immigration have been made by immigrants, for immigrants. There is a reason why we don't just let anyone in, but we also do not refuse entry to those who are respectable people and who go through the proceedures that someone without something to hide, wouldn't mind doing. It's really not that hard to become a legal citizen if you do it right.
The people who have snuck in to our country and are now costing the tax payer's money are the ones I'm upset about. It's not supposed to be a "well, I made it in, now you HAVE to let me stay here" type of thing.
I'm mostly Irish but I also have Cherokee and Iroquois Indian in me. My family moved here during the potato famine and have fought in every war America has been in. I'm actually related to General Lee (of the confederate army). Long story...g g g g-ma ran off with the stable boy and whammo, big news back then. Did you all know the Iroquois Indians discovered maple syrup? Yep, it's true. Damn. Off course here...my point was, or is, that America has a very fucked up history from the start but the laws about immigration have been made by immigrants, for immigrants. There is a reason why we don't just let anyone in, but we also do not refuse entry to those who are respectable people and who go through the proceedures that someone without something to hide, wouldn't mind doing. It's really not that hard to become a legal citizen if you do it right.
The people who have snuck in to our country and are now costing the tax payer's money are the ones I'm upset about. It's not supposed to be a "well, I made it in, now you HAVE to let me stay here" type of thing.
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Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
you idiot, you people are spanish immigrants, you also stole the land from it's native people.i am not an immigrant i was born in california, my family was, 5 generations ago, but they came here LEGALLY, get it? LEGALLY.ecko3389 wrote:
listen you fucken gay racist piece of shit assholes you are just like every white person in the u.s. my parents are immagrents i was born here on los angeles i might not be an immagrent but i sure do know why there is so many immagrants first of all bitch people do not come from mexico to the us because its more nice they come because they need to work to earn money to support there familys second of all dont forget america belonged to the native americans you assholes came and stole this shit so that would mean your an immagrent to are you fucken blind? every single ethinicity in america has bronzed dark skin except thats right the u.s. why because you asshole immigrated from europe dont start typeing shit you dont even know you are lucky you did not say this to my face or i would beat your fucken face in you piece of shit fucken racist ass worthless asshole
hey, come on over to my house you pile of poodle crap, i will give you my address, bitch. i will say many things to your face, many TRUE things that you might not like, and i dare you to try anything bitch.
Sure, immigrant blood flows through his veins. Illegal immigration, which this thread is dedicated to, does not.alpinestar wrote:
My friend weather you like it or not immigrant blood flows through your vains.
House is indded yours but by saying 'get the fuck out of my country" you're beeing an egoist and/or a very simpleminded person .
The only contribution they do by doing menial labor is the labor, That's it... They mow a lawn they get paid for it, then go home and pay rent and buy food. Where as Legal Alliens and citizens Mow a lawn they pay taxes on the money they get payed, then go and pay for rent which there landlord pays taxes on as well. So the government can have money to fix things and fight a war..Sondernkommando wrote:
I would say that, since my parents paid their fees, waited their turn, then paid taxes for fifty years, that yes, it is my house and, no, I am not an immigrant, having been born here.alpinestar wrote:
DO NOT FUCKING FORGET IT IS NOT YOUR HOUSE.
DO NOT FUCKING FORGET YOU ARE THE IMMIGRANT.
This forum is about ILLEGAL immigrants, not immigration in general. I don't care if they make some contribution by doing menial labour, they have surrendered their rights by breaking the law.
Ok so why doesn't someone fix Mexico? We have Millions of Mexican immagrants in our country, why don't this people try to take steps to fix there country?Ether151 wrote:
Good question since your from NJ you probably havent seen Mexico in person but I live right along the boarder almost and it is bad. You go down there and walk along the streets and all of these guys start coming up to you asking you if you want drugs or hookers or waht not. The streets are trashed there basicaly dirt roads with a little concrete here and there and driving is a kinda "try at your own risk" deal. no one obeys the traffic laws if there are any so you have to look out for any one in a car because you are nothing more than a speed bump to them. If you drive down there you have to purchase seperate insurance just for Mexico because you are most likely going to get in a fender bender or two. I also had a friend that went down there and drove, and when he came back to his car some ass had broken all the window out of it stole anything of value and shit and pissed all over the inside, no joke. I was in a shop one time and the owner of the shop had a small dog with him, we start walking around and I look over and the shop owner puts his dog on a stack of blankets that were for sale and the dog pisses all over them. I looked right at him and he just smiled at me and went back to doing what he was doing. If you are caught down there at dark you have to be in a large group or you will most likly be robbed mugged and if you are a female possible raped. I had some jackass try to traid me my girlfriend for a carton of cigarets and 20 bucks once. It is kind of like going to the swap meet or flee market. Sorry for the length of this post, I was just trying to paint a picture. don't get me wrong there are parts that are realy nice but they are all far south and again they are not that nice. Hope this helps. Ethercpt.fass1 wrote:
And what's wrong with Mexico, why do they all want in here? I really don't know so I'm asking.
all i got to say is any one who says that immagrents should head back you need to think twice about what you say the u.s. is what it is today because of who we have here with out immagrents who are gonna do the job no one else would for minimum wage immagrents dont demand that you learn there language they come here to have a better life thats it if they want to learn english ok thats up to them so think twice before posting anything against immagrents because with out them u.s. would not ba so great any one who disagrees is ignorent
That's really not true at all ecko. The main problem with Immigrant workers is that they don't get paid Min. wage to begin with they get paid more then U.S. citizens most the time, it just keeps the cost down for employer's because the employer's don't have to pay the taxes on them. Also the U.S. isn't that great it's was ranked 13th best country to live in. Which means that's it's not even in the top 10.
Well it took me 15 min. to read all 3 pages...
Ok, here it goes...IF YOU FUCKING CAME HERE ILLEGALLY, GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY!
I don't get the problem here! YOU came here ILLEGALLY, YOU get shipped out of OUR country. Leave your kids here, they will be put up for adoption. *Oh but thats not right, your taking my kids away from me.* WELL, you should have thought about that when you came here ILLEGALLY! Just a consequence of your actions if you ask me.
Anyone here ever watched or heard of the movie "The Boondock Saints"? Screw the mafia, turn them loose on all the ILLEGAL shit heads that are screwing up our country! That would be perfect.
Connor, Murphy: And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...
[they cock their guns]
Connor, Murphy: ...et spiritus sancti.
Ok, here it goes...IF YOU FUCKING CAME HERE ILLEGALLY, GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY!
I don't get the problem here! YOU came here ILLEGALLY, YOU get shipped out of OUR country. Leave your kids here, they will be put up for adoption. *Oh but thats not right, your taking my kids away from me.* WELL, you should have thought about that when you came here ILLEGALLY! Just a consequence of your actions if you ask me.
Anyone here ever watched or heard of the movie "The Boondock Saints"? Screw the mafia, turn them loose on all the ILLEGAL shit heads that are screwing up our country! That would be perfect.
Connor, Murphy: And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...
[they cock their guns]
Connor, Murphy: ...et spiritus sancti.
Alright Juan everything you bring up I have heard 20 or 30 times already and it still does nothing for your defense. Ok first off I see at least 30 to 40 people every day out side of the unemployment office on my way to work. There are plenty of people that can and want to do these jobs you speak of that no one else wants to do except for the immigrants. And no one ever said that they are demanding that we learn there language, we are demanding that if they want to come to America that they must learn English. It is bullshit that we now have to post everything from street signs to Mc Donald's billboards in English and Spanish. It is also total bull shit when you go in to a restaurant and the person taking your order can only understand two or three words that you say and has to ask you to repeat ever thing five or six times. So your whole argument about the United States wouldn't be what it is today is just asinine. The people that actually deserve to live here that are unemployed would have jobs instead of people that come in to this county illegally. So once again Juan you are the only one who is being ignorant. So once again I chalange you to bring up one decent argument in favor of "illegal" immigrants.ecko3389 wrote:
all i got to say is any one who says that immagrents should head back you need to think twice about what you say the u.s. is what it is today because of who we have here with out immagrents who are gonna do the job no one else would for minimum wage immagrents dont demand that you learn there language they come here to have a better life thats it if they want to learn english ok thats up to them so think twice before posting anything against immagrents because with out them u.s. would not ba so great any one who disagrees is ignorent
Around here they are passing laws to stop the duel post they are going straight to english.
This is perhaps the stupidest thing I have ever read on these forums...ecko3389 wrote:
listen you fucken gay racist piece of shit assholes you are just like every white person in the u.s. my parents are immagrents i was born here on los angeles i might not be an immagrent but i sure do know why there is so many immagrants first of all bitch people do not come from mexico to the us because its more nice they come because they need to work to earn money to support there familys second of all dont forget america belonged to the native americans you assholes came and stole this shit so that would mean your an immagrent to are you fucken blind? every single ethinicity in america has bronzed dark skin except thats right the u.s. why because you asshole immigrated from europe dont start typeing shit you dont even know you are lucky you did not say this to my face or i would beat your fucken face in you piece of shit fucken racist ass worthless asshole
We are not anti-immigrant. We just want to protect our borders, which are being overrun by people who are not coming to this country legally. My girlfriend immigrated to the US with her family when she was a little girl. It is not fair to people like her and her family, who do things the right way and have to wait several years to get here, that people like you and your parents just stroll across the border and fuck our immigration laws. Fuck you, you think you are above the law. You are the racist bigot.
BTW, I bought a new laptop on May 1 to protest you fagot boycotters. The only businesses that boycott hurt were the Mexican ones.
the immigration issue is always a hot debate in this country every 10 or 20 years. this same hoopla over illegals was happening in the 80's and 70's and before. Its funny how people seem to think this is a brand new issue. good job falling for the smoke and mirrors. this is not a new problem, AT ALL. This wave of anti illegal, anti hispanic rhetoric happens all the time during the course of United States history, nothing special or different about this time.
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So what is this, the blind leading the blind? You are like a Jehovah's Witness. Both arrogant and ignorant to the same degree.ecko3389 wrote:
any one who disagrees is ignorent
Except whenever the issue comes up they always grant amnesty for the next 10 years until it comes up again.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
the immigration issue is always a hot debate in this country every 10 or 20 years. this same hoopla over illegals was happening in the 80's and 70's and before. Its funny how people seem to think this is a brand new issue. good job falling for the smoke and mirrors. this is not a new problem, AT ALL. This wave of anti illegal, anti hispanic rhetoric happens all the time during the course of United States history, nothing special or different about this time.
Yesteryear:
Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...
Now:
We have enough people and are making plenty of taxes, so go home we don't need you.
Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...
Now:
We have enough people and are making plenty of taxes, so go home we don't need you.
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