BF2S Forums Something about "lovely" palestinians that CNN dosent show...

Major_Spittle wrote:

ummm, the Mooslims groups fighting Israel are driven by their religion to destroy Israel and NonMooslims.  This is a fact, they openly admit it, Maybe you should. 

This is why CameronPoe will always look like an Idiot no matter what he says about how Israel is to blame for everything.  Jews get along with all religions/groups of people in the world, Mooslims war with all religions/groups of people in the world they come into contact with.  These are FACTS, that everyone knows.  Only racism could allow someone to overlook these FACTS.

Cameron, why aren't the Christians in Israel/Palestine fighting the Jews/Israel???

CameronPoe wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

ummm, the Mooslims groups fighting Israel are driven by their religion to destroy Israel and NonMooslims.  This is a fact, they openly admit it, Maybe you should. 

This is why CameronPoe will always look like an Idiot no matter what he says about how Israel is to blame for everything.  Jews get along with all religions/groups of people in the world, Mooslims war with all religions/groups of people in the world they come into contact with.  These are FACTS, that everyone knows.  Only racism could allow someone to overlook these FACTS.

Cameron, why aren't the Christians in Israel/Palestine fighting the Jews/Israel???

"Jews get along with all religions/groups"

OK let's analyse this:

* Jews in general have a deep-seated hatred for Muslims.
* Jews did not seem to integrate very well into Europe, the ultimate result being the deplorable acts of Adolf Hitler, Nazi Germany and the likes of Austria, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. This disgusting act was the culmination of centuries of purges of Jews throughout Europe which occurred periodically throughout European history. So you could say that they didn't exactly get along like a house on fire with Europeans.
* Palestinians hate Israelis because they dispossessed hundreds of thousands of them, by force, from their homesteads and farmlands to become perpetual refugees. They since proceeded to make Palestinians lives more and more miserable ever since. Hardly endearing qualities.
* Muslims tend to hate Israel partly through indoctrination (through things like the popularity of 'The Chronicles of the Elders of Zion'), partly because Israel's stolen state annexes the third holiest shrine in Islam and also because of the crimes Israel have committed against their Arab brethren in Palestine. A minority of extreme militants are religious ideologues who wish to rid the middle east of all non-muslims. Check up the Hamas charter on Wikipedia - one article specifically states that the state they want in that region be one of tolerance towards people of any/all creeds.
* There are plenty of Christian Palestinians fighting the Israelis. Not just Palestinians but Arabs from other countries too - Iraq's foreign minister Tariq Aziz was a Catholic for instance.

I don't know whether I should have responded or not - nearly every post you make is sarcastic.

Last edited by Major_Spittle (2006-08-15 16:06:06)

CameronPoe wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Oh that's right - borders determine whether you're a terrorist now. I see. I guess Iran can't be classified as a terrorist state then either. You also don't seem to have a problem with the fact that they currently occupy and are attempting to extend their borders into the West Bank, East Jerusalem, Shebaa Farms and Golan Heights by force and stealth.

I dont think I ever called Iran a terrorist state. However, this doesn't mean they dont support terrorist orgs.
I dont have a problem with Israel occupying all those parts you mentioned if it is to prevents bombings in other parts of Israel.

Do you need to create permanent civilian towns and cities on land you don't own to prevent bombings in parts of Israel? I don't think so.

Major_Spittle wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

So your response is:

1. Jews hate Muslims...... 
(my reply)just because??? tell me why. does their religion preach hate??? You are just a Moron.

2. Jews brought on the Holocoust themselves......
(my reply)you are a moron. Are you saying the Blacks didn't integrate well either.  Only your Arian race should have been in Europe huh.  Your a moron.

3. Palestinians hate Jews..... 
(my reply)No shit. I said the Mooslims fighting Israel hate Jews and those groups hate all nonMuslims.

4. Muslims hate Jews.....   
(my reply)No shit. I said the Mooslims fighting Israel hate Jews and those groups hate all nonMuslims.

5. There are plenty of Christian Palestinians fighting the Israelis. Not just Palestinians but Arabs from other countries too - Iraq's foreign minister Tariq Aziz was a Catholic for instance.....   
(my reply)LOL, Tariq Aziz.  You are a fucking idiot.  Yep, just yesterday I read where the Christian terrorist groups started sending retarded 13 year olds into Israeli stores to blow themselves up.   Your not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Intelligent debate as always. There's no point arguing with a cretin like you. I learned that from acting like you as CyrusTheVirus. Look up some of his posts. You can karma him if you want.

Don't go away mad, just go away.  It all comes down to facts.

FACTS:  The Muslim groups fighting Israel have already admitted it is religious and they will not rest until Israel is destroyed.  The Muslim groups fighting Israel hate all not Muslims.

You can say anything you want and I can always respond with those two FACTS.  So go away until you can admit your wrong.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-15 16:27:16)

Major_Spittle wrote:

ummm, the Mooslims groups fighting Israel are driven by their religion to destroy Israel and NonMooslims.  This is a fact, they openly admit it, Maybe you should. 

This is why CameronPoe will always look like an Idiot no matter what he says about how Israel is to blame for everything.  Jews get along with all religions/groups of people in the world, Mooslims war with all religions/groups of people in the world they come into contact with.  These are FACTS, that everyone knows.  Only racism could allow someone to overlook these FACTS.

Cameron, why aren't the Christians in Israel/Palestine fighting the Jews/Israel???

Last edited by the_hitman_kills (2006-08-15 18:02:21)

Major_Spittle wrote:

Yes, it is a generalization.  But the context of the argument is Israel vs the organizations it is at war with.  I would never individually condemn someone only based upon religion.  Unlike Cameron with the Jews.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-15 23:59:18)

Last edited by beerface702 (2006-08-16 03:52:20)

Lisik wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

Lisik wrote:

http://www.falangist.com/damour.htm

see also:

1975: Belt Mellat, Deir Eshash Tall Abbas (north Lebanon)
1976: Damur (Mount Lebanon), Chekka (north Lebanon), Qaa, Terbol (Bekaa valley)
1977: Aishye (south Lebanon), Maaser el-Shuf (Shuf Mountain)
1978: Ras Baalbeck, Shleefa (Bekaa valley)
1983: Major massacres in Aley, and the Shuf Mountains.
1984: Iqlim el-Kharrub (Mourn Lebanon)
1985: East Sidon (South Lebanon)
1990: Matn district

something about the "lovely" Israelis CNN doesnt show
http://wpherald.com/articles/285/1/Isra … diers.html
http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/jewis … _80805.htm
1.
Al –khesas
19-12-1947
Al khesas is a village in the district of Safad North of Palestine. The Haganah gang attacked the village. Ten villagers were killed.

2.
Bab Al A moud
29-12-1947

30-12-1947
Bab al Amoud is one of Jerusalem gates. The Argon gang attacked the place in 29-12-1947 using barrel of explosives, killing 14 civilians and 27 were wounded in the attack. In the second day the same gang attacked the same place using the same mean and killing eleven Arabs and two British.

3.
Balad Al-Sheik
31-12-1947

1-1-1948
Balad Al Sheik is a village located at the foot of Alkarmel mountain. The Haganah carried out the attack on the village. Eleven were killed & thirty-three were wounded in the attack. In the second day they attacked the village again using grenades & automatic rifles. Thirty villagers were killed or wounded in the attack, most of theme were women & children.

4.
Saraya Jaffa
4-1-1948
Located in Jaffa .the Argon gang attacked the place. The Saraye was demolished. 30arabs were killed and 98 wounded. The attackers used barrel of explosives.

5.
Samieramies Hotel
5-1-1948
The hotel is located in al Qatmoun locality in Jerusalem city. 18 Arabs were killed and 20 wounded. The attack carried out by the Haganah gang using explosives.

6.
Sallah Aldien Street in Haifa
16-1-1948
The place was a store near Al Moghrabi building, salah Al Dien Street, Haifa .the attackers were Zionist disguised in British uniform using a time bomb. The attack resulted in killing 31 Arabs most of them children & women and 31 were wounded.

7.
Abbas Street
28-1-1948
A barrel full of explosives was used in the attack .20 were killed & 50 wounded.

8.
Sassa’
14-2-1-1948
A village in AJallil. Carried out by Hagana. 11 Arabs were killed in the attack.

9.
Al Salam Building
20-2-1948
Place : Jerusalem

Executed by : Shetron

Method:bomb

Result: 14 Arabs killed & 26 wounded

10
Al – Husieniah
13-3-1948
One of Jallil Villages

Executed by: Haganah

Method: explosives

Results: 30 Arabs were killed

11
Haifa Train
31-3-1-48
Place: Haifa train

Method: explosives

Results: 40 Arabs were killed

12
Deir Yassien Village
9-4-1948
Place : Dier Yassien Village

Executed by: Balmakh, Haganah & Shtren

Weapons used: hand grenades & automatic rifles

Results: 250 people were killed

13


Nasir Al- Dien Village
14-4-1948
The village located in the district of Tebariya

Executed by: Haganah gangs

Village inhabitants: 90. 50 of them were killed

Automatic guns were used in the attack.

14
Al – Lajoon
13-4-1948
District of Jenin

Executed by: Haganah gang

Result :13 Arabs were killed

15
Al – Lied
11-7-1948
Place: Al Lied

Executed by: Israeli army

Weapon : automatic guns

Victims: 426 Arabs were killed 176 of them were killed in the mosque.

16
Beth Daras
21-5-1948
Place: A village North East of Gaza

Executed by: gangs from Haganah, Shtern and Balmach

Weapons used: tanks,machine guns and grenades

Result : many Arabs were killed most of them were children & women

17
Sherfat Village
7-2-1951
Place: South of Jerusalem

Executed by: Israeli army

Weapons used: automatic guns & explosives

Results: ten people killed (2 elders, 3 women, and 5 children) and 8 wounded (women & children).

18
Beith- Lehim
6-1-1952
Place: Beth-Lehem city

Executed by: Israeli army

Weapons used: explosives

Results: 6 citizens killed & two children & two women

19
Qabia Village
14-10-1953
Place: west of Ramallah

Executed by: 600 Israeli soldiers

Weapons: artillery bombardment, mines, explosives automatic weapons

Results: destroying the whole village & 67 civilians were killed.

20
Nahaleen Village
28-3-1954
Place: West of Betlehem

Executed by: 300 Israeli soldiers

Weapons: hand grenades, mines and automatic guns

Results: 8 villagers & 3 Jordanian soldiers were killed and 14 wounded.

21
Qulqiliah Village
10-10-1956
Place: Qulqiliah village

Executed by: 4 battalions forces, infentery, tanks & artillery and 10 war planes.

Results: 70 resistance men were killed from the village & other villages who came for rescue

22
Kufer Qassim Village
29-10-1956
District of Nazareth

Executed by: border security forces

Weapons : automatic guns

Results: 43 villagers were killed ( 10 children, 9 women, 24 men) the village inhabitant before the massacre were 200

23
Al –Sheja’iah
28-2-1955
Place: Gaza strip

Executed by: Israeli army

weapons used: automatic guns

Results: 39 Palestinians & Egyptians were killed

24
Eyoon Qarah

Reshon Letsun
20-5-1990
Place: Reshon Letsun

Executed by: Ami Bober an Israeli extremist.

Weapons: M 16 rifle

Results: 7 workers killed & ten injured, in reaction to this brutal killing demonstrations & clashes flared up with the Israeli army which lasted for eight days & 12 civilians were killed & more than one thousand wounded.

25
Hebron
25-2-1994
Place: Ibrahiem holy shrine

Executed by : Borach Goldshtien an extremist settler

Time: down prayer

Result: 29 worshipers were killed & the killer was killed by the worshipers. In reaction to this incident protest were carried out which resulted in the death of 22 civilians and 350 wounded.

26
Abu – Shosha Village
14-5-1948
Place: in district of Jerusalem

Executed by: Israeli army ( Jefa’ati Brigade)

Weapons: automatic guns & axes

Results: 50 people were killed

27
Khan -Younis
3-11-1956
Place: Gaza strip

Executed by : Israeli army

Weapons: automatic guns

Results: in the beginning 250persons were killed and the next massacre 275 persons were killed in the same camp

28
Al- aqsa Mosque
8-10-1990
Place: Jerusalem city inside Al Aqsa mosque vicinity

Executed by: Israeli army

Weapons: automatic guns

Results: 21 martyred and 150 wounded

29
Rafah City
12-11-1956
Place: Al- Ameririah school in Rafah, one of Gaza Strip.

Executed by : Israeli army

Weapons: automatic guns

Results: hundreds were killed with no reason except those leaving their homes were shot at by the soldiers

30
AL Dawaimah Village
27-10-1948
Place: District of Hebron

Executed by : Israeli army

Weapons: automatic guns

Results: the village was completely destroyed, 200 were killed and the villagers fled away.

31
AL-Tantora Village
23-5-1948
Executed by: Israeli army

Weapons: automatic guns

Result: The village was completely destroyed , 71 were Killed and the village fled away .

rofl ok... u startet with 1945... lats see palesteneans BEFORE 1945

1881
Jews bought land from Ottoman and individual Arab landholders. After Jews established agricultural settlements, tensions erupted between the Jews and Arabs.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1909
Jews formed self defense organizations, such as Hashomer, to counter increasing Arab hostility and to help Jews to protect their communities from Arab bandits.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1929
Palestine riots
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and so on and so on and so fucking on...

Wikipedia Bandwagon wrote:

Following is a list of attacks that have been attributed to Irgun that took place during the 1930's.

April 20, 1936 - 2 Arab workers in a banana plantation killed
March, 1937 - 2 Arabs killed on Bat-Yam beach
November 14, 1937 - 6 Arabs were killed in several shooting attacks in Jerusalem.
April 12, 1938 - 2 Arabs and 2 British policemen were killed by a bomb in a train in Haifa.
April 17, 1938 - An Arab was killed by a bomb detonated in a cafe in Haifa
May 17, 1938 - An Arab policeman was killed in an attack on a bus in the Jerusalem-Hebron road.
May 24, 1938 - 3 Arabs were shot and killed in Haifa.
June 23, 1938 - 2 Arabs were killed near Tel-Aviv.
June 26, 1938 - 7 Arabs were killed by a bomb in Jaffa.
June 27, 1938 - An Arab was killed in the yard of a hospital in Haifa.
July 5, 1938 - 7 Arabs were killed in several shooting attacks in Tel-Aviv.
On the same day, 3 Arabs were killed by a bomb detonated in a bus in Jerusalem.
On the same day, an Arab was killed in another attack in Jerusalem.
July 6 1938 - 18 Arabs and 5 Jews were killed by two simultaneous bombs in the Arab Melon market in Haifa.
July 8, 1938 - 4 Arabs were killed by a bomb in Jerusalem.
July 16, 1938 - 10 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jerusalem.
July 25, 1938 - 39 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa.
August 26, 1938 - 24 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jaffa.
February 27, 1939 - 33 Arabs were killed in multiple attacks, incl. 24 by bomb in Arab market in Suk Quarter of Haifa and 4 by bomb in Arab vegetable market in Jerusalem.
May 29, 1939 - 5 Arabs were killed by a mine detonated at the Rex cinema in Jerusalem.
On the same day, 5 Arabs were shot and killed during a raid on the village of Biyar 'Adas.
June 2, 1939 - 5 Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem.
June 12, 1939 - A post office in Jerusalem was bombed, killing a British bomb expert trying to defuse the bombs.
June 16, 1939 - 6 Arabs were killed in several attacks in Jerusalem.
June 19, 1939 - 20 Arabs were killed by explosives mounted on a donkey at a marketplace in Haifa.
June 29, 1939 - 13 Arabs were killed in multiple shootings during one-hour period.
June 30, 1939 - An Arab was killed at a marketplace in Jerusalem.
On the same day, 2 Arabs were shot and killed in Lifta.
July 3, 1939 - An Arab was killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa.
July 4, 1939 - 2 Arabs were killed in two attacks in Jerusalem.
July 20, 1939 - An Arab was killed at a train station in Jaffa.
On the same day, 6 Arabs were killed in several attacks in Tel-Aviv.
On the same day, 3 Arabs were killed in Rehovot.
August 27, 1939 - 2 British officers were killed by a mine in Jerusalem.
Only operations resulting in death are included above.

Not wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

Yes, while the radical groups may not represent all Muslims, I have yet to see as many radical hate groups born out of Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, or Christianity.

Maybe that's because you spend your time only paying attention to what you want to.

Have you never heard of the KKK? That's a CHRISTIAN organization my friend. In our own country. I'm pretty sure a little bit of research would turn up an awful lot of violence against people of other religions (particularly jews) and races.

Or how about the CHRISTIAN church that decided to protest the soldiers' funerals here in America?

How about every CHRISTIAN organization that's bombed an abortion clinic?

How about the CHRISTIAN YOUTH GROUP that beat the living hell out of a gay kid in my very own neighborhood this last week just because he was gay?

How about the Catholic church forcing its will across the world during the crusades?




Man, I'm a Christian, I consider myself mostly Conservative, but I refuse to make up my mind about anything based on what I heard on the Sean Hannity show or anything that comes out of Bill O'Reiley's mouth. Think about an issue before you form an opinion. That's all that the intelligent people of the world ask.

Major_Spittle wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

Don't go away mad, just go away.  It all comes down to facts.

FACTS:  The Muslim groups fighting Israel have already admitted it is religious and they will not rest until Israel is destroyed.  The Muslim groups fighting Israel hate all not Muslims.

You can say anything you want and I can always respond with those two FACTS.  So go away until you can admit your wrong.

I am not wrong. You're generalising as you always do. This post definitely seems sarcastic. Such irrational thought is mind-boggling. Tarring umpteen million people with one brush. My numerous posts on the subject pretty much say it all. I've been to Palestine, Jordan and Morocco and I'm still intact. They obviously must have mistook me for a muslim.

I am sure Hezboulah(sp) and the PLO were tickled pink with you while you frolicked together in fields of flowers.  But the fact remains that while you both hate Jews, as soon as Jews are gone their love for you would fade.  I just go by what these organizations say, why don't you?  You should go to Pakistan and give Osama a big hug, he is needing one from a non Muslim.