BF2S Forums Let's iron out some transatlantic misconceptions?

Bertster7 wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

For genreally being ignorant about the rest of the world.

For being the only current superpower in the world.

For invading other countries withough U.N. approval.

Good call on the 1st and 3rd points, as for the 2nd one, who cares - in fact that may be another reason right there, the fact Americans think people hate them because they're a superpower, la di da.

The Bush administration plays a big part too, in fact the 3rd point is sort of covered just by the Bush administration.

Also, I'm pissed off about all the conflict in the middle east for quite a selfish reason, yup - oil (*edit* that's not the only reason I'm pissed off about it but that's a discussion for another day).
Do you Americans have any idea how much petrol costs in the UK now???

£1 a litre, that's less than a gallon (3.785 litres) costs in the US with all your subsidies and low taxes.

Last edited by JaMDuDe (2006-08-14 17:30:10)

JaMDuDe wrote:

I think the europeans dont like us because we have bad leadership, they dont like wars(we do like to kick some arse when there is good reason for it), and there are rumors spreading that say we went to iraq for oil and stuff like that. And they are becoming muslim so its part of their culture to hate us.

Snowman111 wrote:

Well berster I am trying to combat half of the problem w/ a grass roots campain in my city and high school. This grass roots campain attacks student apathy in city schools. Addresing the waist my fellow americans seem to enjoy indulging in, I can only say that personally I try to walk every where, rarely have the AC on, grow much of my own veggies (mind you I live in the city) and use many water saving apliances and methods through out my home. So if I must lead my nation through education or example I am trying and there is at least one American who wants his children to live in a healthy and educated world.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Hehe when was the last time that we kicked arse?

sergeriver wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Well personally, if I weren't an American I would probably hate America because our leaders are so... inadequate.. So I reason that if most of the world is like me, and don't like crummy leaders, then they probably wouldn't take too kindly to America.  Our foreign policy isn't anything to brag about either though.

What you said is almost perfect, except I don't hate America, I only don't like all the stuff you mention before 'bout this administration.  I always admired Bill Clinton for being such a good president, and he was a true american.  I couldn't believe they wanted to impeach him for a blow job and Bush is still playing the game.  So, I don't think most of the world hates America, it's exactly what you said.

Sgt.Zubie wrote:

If you heard repeatedly from an acquaintance how horrible you were after awhile you might say...I don't care what you think...so there is not as much arrogance involved as most may think. It's just we have our pride like all people and that's where the "America love it or leave it" phrase came from in the 60's. WE don't mean to come off so arrogant, but we get tried of constant flag burnings and criticism that we see on TV.

Remember we got attacked. So I know some of you may say, well get over it, it was 5 years ago....well I'm sorry it's not quite that simple.

I believe that, as I've stated in other threads Iraq was a mistake, but I can understand the mistake in the wake of 911. Remember we lost about 3,000 of our citizen's in one vicious attack. Plus the psychological damage of seeing the towers collapse. Don't laugh...that affected me. And I think it scarred other Americans also.

But now we are in Iraq and we have to figure out the best way to get out. Hopefully it will be soon and they will not fight after we leave...I HOPE.

Afghanistan is another story, that's where the attacks came from and I support that effort 100%. But since our government did not focus on Afghanistan it has become a mess there now because the Taliban were able to regroup.

I want better leadership...but I do appreciate some of the things Bush has done. He was in a very tough spot and he does love our country.

I could go on but I'll save it... I hope I have communicated in a way that allows you to see this American's feeling's. And maybe understand my anger at times.

I love my country and I stand behind our Military. The rest of the World needs to take into consideration we are not a bad people and even our government, as mush as you're mad about Iraq, is not killing people ruthlessly like the evil forces of darkness. You know Im right. What if Osama and MANY like him were in control. Don't kid yourself...Look at Afghanistan before the war.

Bertster7 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Well personally, if I weren't an American I would probably hate America because our leaders are so... inadequate.. So I reason that if most of the world is like me, and don't like crummy leaders, then they probably wouldn't take too kindly to America.  Our foreign policy isn't anything to brag about either though.

What you said is almost perfect, except I don't hate America, I only don't like all the stuff you mention before 'bout this administration.  I always admired Bill Clinton for being such a good president, and he was a true american.  I couldn't believe they wanted to impeach him for a blow job and Bush is still playing the game.  So, I don't think most of the world hates America, it's exactly what you said.

Very true, Clinton was great. Him getting caught getting a blow job I think is great and under Clinton the US economy had a surplus, under Bush there is a deficit - that's even before you take into account the cost of the wars he loves to wage.

I have nothing against American people in general - there are a lot of American people I dislike, but there are a lot of other people I dislike too. Also a lot of groups I hate are American, you come up with some very stupid religions - like mormons and scientologists, although they're really no more ridiculous in theory than Christianity, Islam or any of the others.

zombiguy wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Well personally, if I weren't an American I would probably hate America because our leaders are so... inadequate.. So I reason that if most of the world is like me, and don't like crummy leaders, then they probably wouldn't take too kindly to America.  Our foreign policy isn't anything to brag about either though.

What you said is almost perfect, except I don't hate America, I only don't like all the stuff you mention before 'bout this administration.  I always admired Bill Clinton for being such a good president, and he was a true american.  I couldn't believe they wanted to impeach him for a blow job and Bush is still playing the game.  So, I don't think most of the world hates America, it's exactly what you said.

It's the blind def and dumb republicans, they tried to get Clinton out and keep this idiot in