I say give em Texas. I hate that place. Hell, just let the Israelis have texas. Well. West Texas. We need Houston for the oil. And the bad baseball. That's it. Rename West Texas to Israel, and give it to the Jews. Religious significances be damned.Dersmikner wrote:
I try to use this analogy. What if a dictator took over in Mexico and started killing all the descendants of the Maya? Tortured 10 million Mexicans who had some Mayan blood and called it an Aztec cleansing. What if the world stepped in and stopped this whacko and then said "we really need to give these Mayans a place of their own. Let's give them Texas." Shit, I'd be tossing molitave cocktails too.
Which always portray Jesus as flawed (in South Park's case downright violent), but ultimately good. There's a difference between a Jesus plays golf sketch and those cartoons..:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
Watch a few episodes of family guy / South Park.
hahaha stupid jews.
I like Dersmikner's arguments. I'll give you plus one every time I'm here.
Ummmm how 'bout the southpark where Jesus and Santa Claus get into a bloody fist fight and cuss each other out over Christmas??.remember that one??.....LMAO was funny as hell!!Bubbalo wrote:
Which always portray Jesus as flawed (in South Park's case downright violent), but ultimately good. There's a difference between a Jesus plays golf sketch and those cartoons..:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
Watch a few episodes of family guy / South Park.
Bubbalo stop trying to dismiss every example of this as not note worthy. It won't work. Muslims murdered and rioted for shit just like we are talking about. So just own up to it and move on.
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Again, flawed (can be angry) but ultimately good. Further, those were not specifically commissioned to insult Christians. The Danish newspaper went around and ran a competition for cartoons that made fun of Mohammed.
And what about the response to the recent episode that made fun of the Catholic Church?
And what about the response to the recent episode that made fun of the Catholic Church?
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LOL what response??....How many embassies were burned down, or murders took place???Bubbalo wrote:
Again, flawed (can be angry) but ultimately good. Further, those were not specifically commissioned to insult Christians. The Danish newspaper went around and ran a competition for cartoons that made fun of Mohammed.
And what about the response to the recent episode that made fun of the Catholic Church?
oh so it's 16 %, idiot! get some facts and come back and talk, or at least get some uncommon sense.Poseidon wrote:
Wtf? Just because I heard it's 10 percent? Don't personally attack me just because I got the WRONG INFO, and it's off by 6 or so percent. Even if it's not 10 percent, IT'S A LOW NUMBER. Happy now?-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
why don't you find out? YOU posted this crap! 10 percent? you are an idiot!
And you know why I'm not posting it and not bothering too? I DON'T GIVE A DAMN IF THEY WERE JEWISH AUTHORS OR NOT! The fact that they're attacking OTHER races and a GENOCIDE OF MULTIPLE RACES and not Holland is what's making me mad.
Sorry, couldn't find that... But he apparently is very keen on the man on man action. Check this out...Major_Spittle wrote:
I want to submit an Image of the Iranian Leader giving it to Mohammad while Mohammad is blowing Hitler.
I bet that the Mooslims would riot over that, but the Jews won't riot over the stupid Holocaust cartoons.
Yes, but the point you fail to make is that if someone had submitted a picture of just a regular arab, and labeled him Mohammed. The Muslims would still have rioted. Any graphical depiction of Mohammed is illegal by Islamic law.Bubbalo wrote:
Again, flawed (can be angry) but ultimately good. Further, those were not specifically commissioned to insult Christians. The Danish newspaper went around and ran a competition for cartoons that made fun of Mohammed.
And what about the response to the recent episode that made fun of the Catholic Church?
-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
oh so it's 16 %, idiot! get some facts and come back and talk, or at least get some uncommon sense.Poseidon wrote:
Wtf? Just because I heard it's 10 percent? Don't personally attack me just because I got the WRONG INFO, and it's off by 6 or so percent. Even if it's not 10 percent, IT'S A LOW NUMBER. Happy now?-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
why don't you find out? YOU posted this crap! 10 percent? you are an idiot!
And you know why I'm not posting it and not bothering too? I DON'T GIVE A DAMN IF THEY WERE JEWISH AUTHORS OR NOT! The fact that they're attacking OTHER races and a GENOCIDE OF MULTIPLE RACES and not Holland is what's making me mad.
So much for Debate and Serious talk.
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man, that's just low. The rest of the world isn't as homophobic as north america, elsewhere it's common to kiss cheeks on greeting, even men do.|AIA| DAS wrote:
Sorry, couldn't find that... But he apparently is very keen on the man on man action. Check this out...Major_Spittle wrote:
I want to submit an Image of the Iranian Leader giving it to Mohammad while Mohammad is blowing Hitler.
I bet that the Mooslims would riot over that, but the Jews won't riot over the stupid Holocaust cartoons.
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Ok, I misunderstood you quite a bit with the Hot Topic thing so sorry about that. No we don't have Hot Topic (not that I know of) over here. Kids here get their stuff from stores like H&M or Jack & Jones (the "trendy" ones that wanna look like Queer eye for the straight guy. yech) the rest buy their hippity hoppity loose shit from who knows where Now have I supported the devil or something like that because I bought a jacket from a Gap store in Manhattan the last time I was in N.Y. Oh well, kids grow up in time and forget that stupid rebelling against everything because it's cool to be against "the machine", or whatever, when they get their eyes a bit more open, AND STOP HITTING THE GODDAMN PUNISH BUTTON!!! Right?Ikarti wrote:
It's an american store that caters to rebellious teens. Shopping at Hot Topic (owned by the Gap) is their way of rebelling against conformity and corporate America. They rebel against conformity by dressing exactly alike and pretending to be apathetic and listening to the same music. By the time they're grown up, if they don't grow out of it that is, there's only going to be 3 or 4 people that care enough to vote here anymore.Ultrafunkula wrote:
Hmm... The hottest topic in Finland in the papers at the time seems to be a top swimmer getting a divorce (basically as interesting as Paris Hiltons interviews). Who are the people that buy t-shirt hell crap? You mean Finns or people with a fucked up taste of humor as most of normal humans that don't take things too seriously.Ikarti wrote:
Do they have Hot Topic in Finland too? Those are the people who buy all that T-Shirt hell crap.
I got the same cup, but put it in context please: the second half of what was written on the cup had to do with the millions of Africans who have died from AIDS and begged the question "what do we call that?"PRiMACORD wrote:
I am so sick of hearing about the Holocaust. I was having some coffee at Starbucks yesteray and low and behold, information about the Holocaust was written on the cup.
What happened was horrible, ok, we fucking get it.
In other words he is saying:Dersmikner wrote:
Ikarti, advocating genocide like the Koran? No.
Were I omniscient and omnipotent I'd do two things: (1) remove the Koran and any memory or discussion of it from this planet. It preaches killing infidels, and defines pretty much everyone as an infidel, and (2) wipe out anyone whose idea is that that the infidels need to go.
Do you believe that we can distinguish the bad Muslims from the good Muslims? I don't. The children in Mohammed Attah's neighborhood called him "Mr. Mo" and said he was the best dad on the block. Drove them to bowling, let them stay up late, just a great all around guy. Then he flew a plane into a building full of innocent people. Unfortunately there's on way to go to Arabia and sit down with a bunch of Muslims and know who wants to wipe out the infidels and who is just trying to go along to get along.
Do you believe that even if we could distinguish the good from the bad that we could convince the good to let us wipe out the bad? I don't. it's still "Muslim v. everyone else" and even if they aren't for the terrorists, they damned sure don't want us killing Muslims, whether they're "bad" Muslims or not.
Do you believe that we can leave the Muslims alone and still survive? I don't. I don't think the radical Islamists will cease their attacks even if we move Israel to Greenland, pull every white person out of the Middle East, and hide over here like pansies. They'll STILL blow up planes, throw Jews off cruise ships, and behead whitey whenever possible.
So, I'm sad to report that all those fuckers need to be gone, and it's people like you, who are the passivists and the next door neighbors to the radical, who don't act, who sadly have to be erased as well.
I've got an idea for you, clean up your religion and your race and you won't get smoked. As it stands we're bigger, we're stronger, we're faster and we have more guns and more money and if the Muslims don't get the radicals in line it's going to end up bad for them. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that the minute the U.S. gets attacked again that we aren't going to declare Marshall Law in the Middle East, and enforce it at gunpoint.
I'm sorry y'all can't get your shit together, but the diplomatic route doesn't seem to be working and as long as the kooks are hidden among your populace, the whole thing has to go.
I really don't give a shit. There, I said it. Quote it if you want. If the choice is to spare the innocent Muslims who allegedly don't want to kill all the Jews and Christians (in direct contradistinction to their Koran), and continue to deal with the killing of American citizens, or just wipe them all out, sorry. I'd rather the entire religion and everyone associated with it become a dirty chapter in our history than watch another plane fly into a building full of oblivious civilians.
I'm absolutely serious that were I in front of the "kill them all" button I'd give the Muslim world exactly one year to completely eradicate extremists, and if one more suicide bomb went off in the middle of a baby Gap in TelAviv after Day 365 i'd kill every one of them to make sure it didn't happen again.
Is it right for 100,000,000 innocent Muslims to die to save 1,000 innocent Christians/Jews? Who cares? I'm one of the thousand and the hundred million can kiss my ass if they can't play nice.
I'm one of the minority that advocates Israels continued illegal occupation of Palestine. It doesn't matter that the U.N. resolution passed 40 years ago is still being ignored by my country. It is OK for us to continue to steal Palestinian land, bulldoze homes with occupants still in them, and then build Jewish settlements on the stolen land.
It is also OK to force those Palestinians to live in squalor. It is OK to tear down a new home that is being built there so they don't have a place to live. It is OK for us to murder their people in the street, and torture them in public (and private). It is OK to not allow them to travel from one neighborhood to the next, and if they argue the point, well we just shoot them in the head.
It is also OK to destroy their crops and take all their natural resources, because it is all part of Israel's larger plan to annex all of Palestine. This is Israel after all, the greatest single genocide producer in the history of the world.
Seeing as how all of this is OK in his mind, then it must logically follow that when the Palestinians fight back they are called terrorists. It doesn't matter that they are fighting back because of all the things done above, they are still terrorists for fighting back...and the Israelis? Oh, they are just defending themselves.
Oh, don't forget this important point: because I have told the truth here, I am ANTI-SEMITIC, as is anyone that speaks the truth about what is going on in the Middle-East.
Again, it wasn't specifically designed to attack Christians for the sake of attacking them. Having said that, there were calls for the creators to be jailed and the show to be cancelled.lowing wrote:
LOL what response??....How many embassies were burned down, or murders took place???
Would they? Because I seriously doubt it. There have been depictions of Mohammed in the past (indeed, some Muslims do not believe it to be sacrilege), but none so offensive.|AIA| DAS wrote:
Yes, but the point you fail to make is that if someone had submitted a picture of just a regular arab, and labeled him Mohammed. The Muslims would still have rioted. Any graphical depiction of Mohammed is illegal by Islamic law.
HM1, I don't think you get what I'm saying at all.
1. I think the United Nations, or whoever was the driving force behind deciding to take land from the Palestinians and make it Israel, was a complete jerkoff and royally hosed the Palestinians.
2. I don't think the Palestinians are some indigenous fun-loving people who are being hosed by the evil that is Judaism. Remember, the al-Aqsa Mosque is really the Temple Mount, and was being worshipped in by Jews a thousand years before the Arabs ever showed up. The Arabs rolled in as a conquering army and stole that land from the Jews who lived there, so let's not make out like "hey they were there first." They were there first in some people memories, because none of us were alive when they invaded the motherfucker.
3. I think the best solution is a two state deal, and if the Arabs don't like it then we'll do to the Muslim world what they did to the Jews in the way, way back, and that's run them out of dodge. Don't fucking kid yourself that the Jews weren't there at the exact same time the Arabs were. Hell when I see a picture of an Israeli and a Palestinian on TV you've got to tell me who is who and if they don't open their mouths nobody can tell the difference. It's not like God wanted the whole Middle East to belong to the Arabs and wanted the Jews to live in Iceland.
Everybody needs to have their own country and they need to go along to get along, and whoever doesn't play nice needs to be dead.
1. I think the United Nations, or whoever was the driving force behind deciding to take land from the Palestinians and make it Israel, was a complete jerkoff and royally hosed the Palestinians.
2. I don't think the Palestinians are some indigenous fun-loving people who are being hosed by the evil that is Judaism. Remember, the al-Aqsa Mosque is really the Temple Mount, and was being worshipped in by Jews a thousand years before the Arabs ever showed up. The Arabs rolled in as a conquering army and stole that land from the Jews who lived there, so let's not make out like "hey they were there first." They were there first in some people memories, because none of us were alive when they invaded the motherfucker.
3. I think the best solution is a two state deal, and if the Arabs don't like it then we'll do to the Muslim world what they did to the Jews in the way, way back, and that's run them out of dodge. Don't fucking kid yourself that the Jews weren't there at the exact same time the Arabs were. Hell when I see a picture of an Israeli and a Palestinian on TV you've got to tell me who is who and if they don't open their mouths nobody can tell the difference. It's not like God wanted the whole Middle East to belong to the Arabs and wanted the Jews to live in Iceland.
Everybody needs to have their own country and they need to go along to get along, and whoever doesn't play nice needs to be dead.
Small points:Dersmikner wrote:
HM1, I don't think you get what I'm saying at all.
1. I think the United Nations, or whoever was the driving force behind deciding to take land from the Palestinians and make it Israel, was a complete jerkoff and royally hosed the Palestinians.
2. I don't think the Palestinians are some indigenous fun-loving people who are being hosed by the evil that is Judaism. Remember, the al-Aqsa Mosque is really the Temple Mount, and was being worshipped in by Jews a thousand years before the Arabs ever showed up. The Arabs rolled in as a conquering army and stole that land from the Jews who lived there, so let's not make out like "hey they were there first." They were there first in some people memories, because none of us were alive when they invaded the motherfucker.
3. I think the best solution is a two state deal, and if the Arabs don't like it then we'll do to the Muslim world what they did to the Jews in the way, way back, and that's run them out of dodge. Don't fucking kid yourself that the Jews weren't there at the exact same time the Arabs were. Hell when I see a picture of an Israeli and a Palestinian on TV you've got to tell me who is who and if they don't open their mouths nobody can tell the difference. It's not like God wanted the whole Middle East to belong to the Arabs and wanted the Jews to live in Iceland.
Everybody needs to have their own country and they need to go along to get along, and whoever doesn't play nice needs to be dead.
1) The Romans hounded the Jews out of Palestine, the ultimate battle occurring atop Masada near the Dead Sea.
2) Jews came to occupy the land known as Palestine by ravaging the Cana'anites who lived there long before them. It gets confusing and doesn't help to go too far back with respect to the 'we were here first' argument. Cana'anite descendants are both Jewish and Palestinian - the region has never been exclusively dominated by any one ethnic group. Regimes came and went on a regular enough basis. Many Jews left however to seek opportubities in Europe and beyond and to escape Roman oppression. The Arabs, by and large, stayed behind. There is little or no ethnic difference between Jews and Arabs - they are both semitic peoples.
I agree wholeheartedly.Dersmikner wrote:
HM1, I don't think you get what I'm saying at all.
1. I think the United Nations, or whoever was the driving force behind deciding to take land from the Palestinians and make it Israel, was a complete jerkoff and royally hosed the Palestinians.
This is really a moot point. We can argue who was there first all day, and it wasn't the Jews. so you would ultimately lose that battle. The fact of the matter is Palestinians ARE being hosed by Israel, maybe not by Judaism as a religion, but by Israeli Jews who have the single goal of annexing all of Palestinian land and driving the Palestinians out. How else do you explain the illegal 40 year occupation of Palestine?Dersmikner wrote:
2. I don't think the Palestinians are some indigenous fun-loving people who are being hosed by the evil that is Judaism. Remember, the al-Aqsa Mosque is really the Temple Mount, and was being worshipped in by Jews a thousand years before the Arabs ever showed up. The Arabs rolled in as a conquering army and stole that land from the Jews who lived there, so let's not make out like "hey they were there first." They were there first in some people memories, because none of us were alive when they invaded the motherfucker.
A 2 state situation would be ideal, but saying we will run the Muslim world out if they don't like it? Hmmm, not so sure we could do that, and even if we could, Israel would never abide by it. That would quash their Zionist goals...Dersmikner wrote:
3. I think the best solution is a two state deal, and if the Arabs don't like it then we'll do to the Muslim world what they did to the Jews in the way, way back, and that's run them out of dodge. Don't fucking kid yourself that the Jews weren't there at the exact same time the Arabs were. Hell when I see a picture of an Israeli and a Palestinian on TV you've got to tell me who is who and if they don't open their mouths nobody can tell the difference. It's not like God wanted the whole Middle East to belong to the Arabs and wanted the Jews to live in Iceland.
Everybody needs to have their own country and they need to go along to get along, and whoever doesn't play nice needs to be dead.
Yeah, But I'm not an American Citizen... And I did see tongue...Spumantiii wrote:
man, that's just low. The rest of the world isn't as homophobic as north america, elsewhere it's common to kiss cheeks on greeting, even men do.|AIA| DAS wrote:
Sorry, couldn't find that... But he apparently is very keen on the man on man action. Check this out...Major_Spittle wrote:
I want to submit an Image of the Iranian Leader giving it to Mohammad while Mohammad is blowing Hitler.
I bet that the Mooslims would riot over that, but the Jews won't riot over the stupid Holocaust cartoons.
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so you are saying there was no violence attached to these??Bubbalo wrote:
Again, it wasn't specifically designed to attack Christians for the sake of attacking them. Having said that, there were calls for the creators to be jailed and the show to be cancelled.lowing wrote:
LOL what response??....How many embassies were burned down, or murders took place???
Hell, I don't even remember reading about it.